Official Football Thread - 12/13

[Fleka]

I'll never forget Korea's magical run in the 2002 World Cup. I really wanted them to win it all, but eventually their luck ran out. It really endeared me towards them as a nation, though. Their fans were brilliant.

As for Barcelona, they were completely dismantled tonight. They were outclassed, whether or not two of the four goals should have stood.

Magical run? Italy got massacred by referee Byron Moreno. Totti got a red card for nothing. Korean players used kung-fucking-fu to win.

[SajN]

My only hope now is that Barca don't fuck up and wins the Spanish league (they are 13 points ahead), and that Real Madrid also gets knocked out from Champions League, whether it's now or in the final I don't care

[Francesco]

and all their foreign fans can celebrate as if they have any connection with the club

Jesus christ, that is a really pathetic thing to say

Some Brits.
Maybe if the teams weren't owned by foreigners and their best players foreigners, hell, maybe if the entire league was being upheld by foreigners, he would have a point.

I've talked about that before too... lol The foreign wild card is there for fans only... not for the players who actually carry the team on their backs.

I'll never forget Korea's magical run in the 2002 World Cup. I really wanted them to win it all, but eventually their luck ran out. It really endeared me towards them as a nation, though. Their fans were brilliant.
As for Barcelona, they were completely dismantled tonight. They were outclassed, whether or not two of the four goals should have stood.

Magical run? Italy got massacred by referee Byron Moreno. Totti got a red card for nothing. Korean players used kung-fucking-fu to win.

Barca were fucked really bad even though the referee fucked up too...

Korean's magical run... lol Totti got two yellow cards for alleged dives while it was more than obvious one of them was a foul & the other a penalty kick... Spain got fucked up even worse with referee decisions against them too. The funniest thing was on the semis when Koreans tried to outrun German football players. lol Ballack was running all over the place having two of them on his back for the most part.

[FutureFan]

Bayern destroyed Barca.

Dortmund will win overall tho.

[Francesco]

My only hope now is that Barca don't fuck up and wins the Spanish league (they are 13 points ahead), and that Real Madrid also gets knocked out from Champions League, whether it's now or in the final I don't care

Nah Barca won the league, it is just a matter of time.
We'll see about the CL though... it's still complicated.

[CrashBand]

Bayern sure were impressive.

Almost everytime Robben or Ribery went forward on the counter they looked dangerous. Barca on the other hand....

Messi lost the ball 3 or 4 times in a row at one point.

SajN, you can't complain about an offside goal, but then go on to say "don't say anything about the handballs".

[SajN]

I hope Barca at least will save some honour next match by winning 2-0 or 3-0 even though they will get knocked out. It will be a really big shame if they lose like this again the second leg.

[cityfan31]

Sad to see Barca lose like that, they're the best team ever and that shouldn't be forgotten.

Some Brits.
Maybe if the teams weren't owned by foreigners and their best players foreigners, hell, maybe if the entire league was being upheld by foreigners, he would have a point.

I've talked about that before too... lol The foreign wild card is there for fans only... not for the players who actually carry the team on their backs.

Yeah, that has nothing to do with anything. If you support a big team from a foreign country with no reason other than that they are one of the best teams, then I'm afraid you're missing the point of football. That's my opinion, even if obviously anyone can support whoever they want. It's nothing to do with me.

[CrashBand]

What's the point of football then? lol.

[Slimm]

What's the point of football then? lol.

The feeling of unity, the feeling of actually supporting through good and bad times, the feeling of traveling across the country to see your team lose, the feeling of winning a derby, the feeling of celebrating a victory together with the players at the town square.

I guess football = feeling.

Cityfan, rumor has it City wants to buy our best player. His name is Adam Maher and he's incredibly talented, heard of him?

[Guess_Who]

^^ All that talk you guys are having reminds me a friend of mine, he is a huge Málaga supporter. Club member, he spent a lot of money in travelling to watch the games...A supporter in the good times and in the bad ones.

Recently Málaga made it to be in the Champions for the first time. He was so excited. The team lost the game with two injury-time goals. It was the extra time, so who would have thought that something like this could happen...Well so this guy was so so sad that even affected his life and during a time he said he won't watch football anymore.

That's how some people live football.

[SajN]

What's the point of football then? lol.

The feeling of unity, the feeling of actually supporting through good and bad times, the feeling of traveling across the country to see your team lose, the feeling of winning a derby, the feeling of celebrating a victory together with the players at the town square.

Across the country, right? What about those who actually spend money to fly to another country to see their team? Lot of them actually take few days off from work and school just because they are going to another country to see football.
I haven't had the chance yet, but most likely I am going to Spain in autumn to see Barca play.

Oh, and there is another thing I wanna say, but I can't really say much as it's not official yet (but I know about it because I am in the staff of the Barca supporter group in Norway)... Let's just say I will see Barca play a match where I live in the upcoming months

We all have pubs here in Norway where fans gather and yell and cheer and everything during matches. People who fight for their team, even if it's local or from another country. Speaking of that, most people here in Norway do actually follow the Norwegian teams, they have a favourite there too, but they also have "international" favourite. I don't have a local team I support because as I said, I find them boring and never really managed to get into Norwegian football (I have tried).

Oh, and there are supporters for lesser famous teams. There are supporter groups for teams like Malaga, Villareal, Inter, Leeds, etc. here. Of course you won't hear about them because honestly... how many people from other countries do you really know? You just pull out shit out of your asses. Sure, the bigger teams have more fans, just like in any other sport, because those teams are in the media all the time. The lesser famous teams do have many fans, but they're not "loud" like us.

Last thing... most of the people here actually have many teams they follow and support. It's football for them. They will be interested in, and support the teams in La Liga, discuss stuff about them, while their favourite is Barca or Real or Ahtletic or whatever. They don't care about people like you who speak about "true fanzz". They are just as true fans as those who live in the country of the team. They have flown soooo many times to other countries to see their favourite team play. Many of them (in the supporter group of mine) has EVEN MET SANDRO ROSELL AND COUPLE OF THE PLAYERS!!!

I am sick of this pathetic talk about "oh noez, you cannot support a team that's not in your country"


I can't believe I bothered to this... and it's the first thing I did after waking up.

[Guess_Who]

I agree with what SaJn wrote. For what I see here, he is a huge Barça supporter, in the good moments and in the bad ones. Not the kind of fan that change the colors as opportunity arises. And yes, there are a lot of these.

Then for many people the only ones who would be the real Barça fans would be the people from Barcelona. Not even the rest of Spain. Because there are another teams in the country and you should just support your hometown one.

And what about the people from countries where there are no team?? They can't support anyone?...

[Francesco]

Some Brits.
Maybe if the teams weren't owned by foreigners and their best players foreigners, hell, maybe if the entire league was being upheld by foreigners, he would have a point.

I've talked about that before too... lol The foreign wild card is there for fans only... not for the players who actually carry the team on their backs.

Yeah, that has nothing to do with anything. If you support a big team from a foreign country with no reason other than that they are one of the best teams, then I'm afraid you're missing the point of football. That's my opinion, even if obviously anyone can support whoever they want. It's nothing to do with me.

First of all if we talk about United... the club had a lotta foreign fans even before it got that big for the last 20 years or so... & secondly way smaller teams like West Ham, Tottenham, Newcastle, Everton etc. etc. have huge followings outside England too. It's not about just been big... plus if teams didn't want foreign fans they wouldn't even travel all over Asia every year to gain as many as possible.

The point of football is to be universal & fans usually stick with teams they love... of course it's more common for them to stick with ones that win more & are always in the fight for trophies but that doesn't change anything. It is even ridiculous to say what you keep saying... Why not people from Agrentina start loving Man City as the Argentine players carry that team on their back for 3 yeas now?

I have always been a crazy Roma fan & will always be... Juve, Milan & Inter are way bigger clubs than Roma but that doesn't matter. What matters is if fans are really dedicated to their teams & support them to the full... even if they're from fucking Napa valley.

Sajn gave a great example... Should he follow only a Pakistani football team 'cuz he's a Pakistani dude? He loves Barca & that is all that matters... nobody can't take that from him. Every sad Espanol fan would look ridiculous any other time when they tell him he doesn't relate to the city of Barcelona so he's not a real fan or whatever. That's bull 101.

Like 3 years or so ago Wenger had Arsenal playing a game with 18 foreign players in his match roster & some of them didn't even know English at the time.

You point is not about football at all... it's about inferiority complex. I'm not telling you this 'cuz I don't like you or whatever... it is a simple fact & you don't need to bring that foreign wild cars any other time 'cuz it really look ridiculous.

[dR3]

SajN took every word out of my mouth.