McMaybe wrote:Kez wrote:Tash8 wrote:Kez, this is where I'll rebuttle what you just said. The reason I and some people do this is becuase I don't want to spend MY time and MY effort and MY feed on someone who does not try or even work hard. Like IceKilla, I hate to pick on him but seriously, it seems like he doesn't realize that he's not that good, he's horrible (of course he just started). Yet he's releasing an album in 2 days, you think I'm going to download that album and feed it? NO... if he posts songs and I see signs of improvement then Yes I do feed... That's the reason I only feed a few people, I won't give you feedback, unless I know you'll read my feed and accept it and work with it, but more people here are too red headed and arrogant to accept what the feedback says. I'm going to mention Sticcy here, we collab on a song called I Get It, right after i send it to him, he says "dude I killed it, I easily had the best verse on here" then he goes on and criticizes Chris for having a bad verse. Again, not to pick on Sticcy because I like his music more than most people do on this site, but if you really don't think Chris was trying hard on his verse, or you think your a lot better, then Don't WORK with them, really it just makes you look bad and it makes them look bad.
Of course there's two sides to this problem, we keep hitting on the bad feedback side, but honestly If your not working hard and putting effort into your track, WHY THE FUCK should we the feeders give two shits about putting effort into our feedback. A few days ago, I tried to do what everyone does just to see if I'd get called out on it. On Steve Spag's song I said "great track bro" and that was about it, no one complained, no one said anything, but if i had replied "shit track bro" I'm sure I'd get flamed. People here post tracks to get a good response, they aren't looking for real feedback, so what I do is I just don't reply to them, the people who want real feedback from me, I'll give it to them. Which is why I asked sticcy, mcmaybe, and james r a few days ago to feed my 3 new beats and give their full honest opinion and if they weren't going to do that, then don't even fucking bother. I don't want it.
I agree with you completely, but i think you missed the point a bit. I wasn't referring to people who tend to feed. The point was that i was referring to people who never normally even visit these sections going in there and leaving feed just for their friends, bumping peoples' music down in favour of complimenting their friends.
Should have made that more clear.
I agree about Ice Killa, he exhumes an air of silent smugness. Like, he claims he knows he aint very good yet, but in reality he obviously thinks he's the shit when he comes into threads about TR's best and insists he be included. Sticcy, well that's just how Sticcy is. Can't be much done about that.
@z_em: People don't need to be fucking babysat. Part of the reason i miss Kosovic is because he told it how it was. When i came here, Maybe just flat out gave me his honest opinion, telling me to quit. I didn't like it, but it at least motivated me to improve. If you baby people, they become complacent and then when they go to an impartial source (i.e. anywhere else but here) and get laughed at, they look like a tit. If people can't handle some harsh criticism, rap music is the last thing they should be creating.
Yes, and now you're one of the better people here in audio, and have made some songs that I have on my MP3 player and enjoy listening to. That's should be encouragement enough for people.
Precisely my point.
I just felt it would be a bit egotistic to say it myself.
