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Possitive/negative music

Postby mcZu » Jan 3rd, '10, 23:15

It's a scenario every parent of a teenager will recognise: the bedroom door closes, a volume dial is rotated clockwise and loud music fills the room for hours at a time. But there is some good news – this routine might actually make your child more caring and socially responsible.

After years of studies purporting to show the harmful effects of young people listening to songs with violent or misogynistic themes, a psychologist has concluded that music containing a positive message has a beneficial impact on listeners.

Dr Tobias Greitemeyer from the University of Sussex carried out a series of tests on groups of students in which those exposed to so-called pro-social music – one example was Help! by the Beatles – later acted in a more considerate and empathetic way than peers who had listened to songs containing a neutral or apparently meaningless lyrical message.

His experiments took groups of students and split them at random into those who listened individually either to socially-conscious songs or those with a neutral message, and then used various ways to measure the apparent effect. In one, after the music had stopped, a researcher "accidentally" knocked a cup of pencils from a table and paused briefly before beginning to collect them.

On average, those who had heard songs like Michael Jackson's Heal the World responded more quickly and picked up almost five times as many pencils as people in the other group.

Other volunteers were asked, after listening to the music, whether they would help with a separate research project. Almost three times as many in the "pro-social" group said they would. "It's a very consistent effect. I did not expect it would be so significant," Greitemeyer said.


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Re: Possitive/negative music

Postby embm » Jan 4th, '10, 01:22

uh sorta

interestin study
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Re: Possitive/negative music

Postby Sophie » Jan 4th, '10, 16:30

Well i guess if the music is positive then it might put you in a positive mood to help somebody, so it makes sense :-k but i guess the majority of kids usually listen to music that is considered negative so idk..depends how influential it is and how it affects that particular person.
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Re: Possitive/negative music

Postby Bistnal » Jan 4th, '10, 17:35

That's interesting but I don't really think it's entirely because of the music. But if it is, then wouldn't "negative" music have just as much of an effect. Maybe it does but not on me, because "positive" or "negative" music doesn't really affect the way I act (except songs that get me pumped up, and those just make me more energetic) so I wouldn't really say the music affects me. But it could work and help others but I don't believe it would have much use.
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Re: Possitive/negative music

Postby yoshi » Jan 4th, '10, 22:11

Hmm.. Music has always been a source of inspiration and afterthoughts for me, no matter if it's considered as 'positive' or 'negative', because this actually depends on how you 'receive' it. What I mean is that even NWA songs can have a positive impact on you, unless of course you'll take it all seriously and think of violence as a way of solving all your problems.

You can find a positive message in a negative song, too. Like I said, you can chose this way of solving your issues or you can take it as a sort of 'warning' and example you will most likely NOT follow. It's up to you how you want to interpretate it, but it's always better to try to see a bigger picture and different interpretations.

As for the positive message.. Yeah, that's something I love about music. It can influence you in so many ways, like 'I Can' by Nas. No need to say it's one of the most motivational and positive rap songs ever made.

Huh.. I feel like I missed a point there ^ lol but uh.. fuck it. :shifty:
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Re: Possitive/negative music

Postby EminemBase » Jan 4th, '10, 22:25

Well of course hundreds of things around us have... Ever-changing, everlasting, ever-shifting... Non-stop influence and sub-influence on our conscious and subconscious minds.

To single out music is just pandering to the hyper-reactive Government who do so because they're too fucking stupid to understand why things are actually the way they are.

Violence is instinctive, we're MAMMALS. If we are provoked, we will eventually snap and attack. Yes, if you surround yourself by... Depressive, violent entertainment 24/7 you will probably grow to have a shorter temper and be generally more depressive or annoyed at the World.

But this is to the point of obsession and the level of influence things have on a person differs from mind to mind. It's oafish and irresponsible to suggest for example... Eminem's music has X effect on all young people or that Snoop Dogg encourages X.

You could have this debate about anything if you cared to nit-pick enough. There should be no compromise in art. At all. Art can work inside or outside the realms of logic but an artist should not be held responsible for the reaction his or her art may provoke. How about individual responsibility.

You could argue that the constant slap-happy, over the top cheese of news anchors is angering the depressive psychos of our society and therefore procreating violence. Provoking a reaction. Obviously nobody would argue that because it's ridiculous. It may have some truth to it, despite the fact I just made it up, it's not illogical or even that unlikely on a large scale. But that doesn't mean the step in combating that is to force news anchors to be slightly more depressive.

Of course the combat-step is to get to the root of the problem. The psychos. And that's not to shove them in cages. The right thing to do is to find out why certain people are like this and not by studying outside influences. Outside influences affect everybody differently and at different rates and levels of intensity. You have to study fundamental human behaviour and things which hold true scientific weight such as genetics. Genetic levels of X and so on.

So whilst it may be true positive music has a positive effect on people... So what. It would be insane to then try and force all music to be positive. If they're suggesting musicians should take note and start creating positivity for its sake then they're fucking mental. This totally abolishes true free-speech and the actual point of art. Free expression.

We can never allow the fucking moronic do-gooding pricks who are too stupid and bigoted to see past their own sense of morality and limited scopes of art start governing art. Thank fuck Eminem had balls as big as he did because cowering to these tossers and giving it... Demolishes our true rights. I'm British and... It seems like we have slightly more freedom to say certain things here but this last twenty years of these utter idiots trying to censor the World is effecting everywhere.

That's why people like Eminem are very important. Whether people like his music or not, they truly don't realize or appreciate what artists like him do for our free speech. He is one of a handful holding together the thread of our founding voice. If people like him give up or don't exist we're all fucked.
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Re: Possitive/negative music

Postby Sophie » Jan 5th, '10, 09:53

yoshi wrote:You can find a positive message in a negative song, too. Like I said, you can chose this way of solving your issues or you can take it as a sort of 'warning' and example you will most likely NOT follow. It's up to you how you want to interpretate it, but it's always better to try to see a bigger picture and different interpretations.

^ This makes sense :-k
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Re: Possitive/negative music

Postby DrRapid » Jan 5th, '10, 16:13

One of my mates listens to Black Metal/Death Metal/Deathcore/Grindcore, well you get the point. Well he isn't exactly a very happy and lively chap. He's very pesimistic about everything, he depresses himself for really stupid things when really he has nothing in life to get depressed about. He's very intelligent, gets really good grades and has a good family. I think his own music makes his mentality be different and just picture things negatively. I make him sound like a sad soul, he's fine it's just that he lets himself down. So I do think negative music can have an impact in you, positive? Well I don't know really, probably to a certain extent as well as negative.
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