EminemBase wrote:^ Yes but then you have to concede god is a delusion.
In fact you don't even have to concede that, that's just a fact.
Definition of a delusion:
an erroneous belief that is held in the face of evidence to the contrary.
That is the definition of the belief in god. God is a belief, for which there is no evidence and enormous apposing evidence to the contrary to every religious book... That millions still believe. Some believe their books as literal. These people are, by definition, deluded.
So if you want to believe it, fine. But it should not be taught in schools as an alternative for how we got here, how life came to be or anything of the sorts.
I too went to a religious school, moderate but a Roman Catholic one never the less. I have never believed in god, I actually remember being as young as 7 or 8 and just thinking "this is obviously not true" and I was the bane of my religious teachers' lives lmao.
But it discourages debate, it teaches that this is the truth, the unquestionable truth and there is no debate to be had. And religion also teaches faith is not only a good thing but that's it's superior to believing with evidence. It teaches that faith is a virtue.
This is why I appose it as strongly as I do. This is not a good mindset to teach to children. It's in fact more than not good, it's irresponsible and detrimental to young, developing minds. We should encourage independent, critical thinking. Not closed-minded, one-road answers.
mcZu wrote:It's called the evolution theory for a reason, because it's a theory....
EminemBase wrote:mcZu wrote:It's called the evolution theory for a reason, because it's a theory....
My goodness. You are wrong, I'll start with that.
This is why people like Dawkins of recent have been trying to stop Science using the word 'theory' with Evolution as it creates a public misconception.
Evolution is a FACT. Evolution is as proven and documented a fact as we've ever known. There is zero debate about whether or not Evolution happened within Science. Evolution could not be proved more. There is absolutely no doubt that it's true, got that? Okay.
It's called a theory as is any fact in science because Scientists aren't arrogant. They use this word because it's a set of facts that point to this conclusion but nothing is every considered totally and unquestionably proven in science. Gravity is also called a theory.
But this out of humility on sciences' part, not on a single doubt in the theory of Evolution. Evolution is a fact.
mcZu wrote:Mind posting that 'evidence' you're talking about?
Chet Star wrote:Nobody can prove or disprove it, so it's just a matter of faith or religion.
So many people look down on people who believe in God, hell I look up to them. If I had enough blind faith to believe in a higher power I would most likely be a more happy person.
mcZu wrote:I'm a bigot? You're the one who is intolerant to everyone who has an opinion that slightly differs from yours, so, what does that make you?
And as far for the 'evidence', there is no solid scienitifc proof for evolution you moron. According to the theory it takes millions of years before the actual phenomena of evolution takes place. The 'evidence' you just posted is far from evidence
EminemBase wrote:mcZu wrote:I'm a bigot? You're the one who is intolerant to everyone who has an opinion that slightly differs from yours, so, what does that make you?
And as far for the 'evidence', there is no solid scienitifc proof for evolution you moron. According to the theory it takes millions of years before the actual phenomena of evolution takes place. The 'evidence' you just posted is far from evidence
Yes you are a bigot.
Evolution is not an opinion. It's not my opinion that Evolution happened no more than it's an opinion that we breath air to live.
I think we can stop the discussion right here as this statement:
"There is no solid scientific proof for evolution"
Proves that you are an unquestionable, bigoted, complete and utter credulous IDIOT of immeasurable heights. There is no hope for people as ignorant as you.
You're on my ignore list. I can't have a serious discussion with people like you, you're too cemented in your unprovable, irrational babble and so much so that you even deny plain fact.
You deny proven, absolute fact. You're 100% deluded. Quite literally, insane. Goodbye.
Chet Starr wrote:I don't care if my opinions offend people or if they don't.
I use to be a huge asshole on this topic, always making fun of people who believe in god. Until I realized
1. I was being a ass
2. There is no proof either way. (Even if you keep telling yourself there is.)
EminemBase, this is a place for serious debates. Please stop resorting to childish name calling. (What you said to McZu, not me lol)
EminemBase wrote:Chet Starr wrote:I don't care if my opinions offend people or if they don't.
I use to be a huge asshole on this topic, always making fun of people who believe in god. Until I realized
1. I was being a ass
2. There is no proof either way. (Even if you keep telling yourself there is.)
EminemBase, this is a place for serious debates. Please stop resorting to childish name calling. (What you said to McZu, not me lol)
I don't make fun of people who believe it I simply say the idea is total fiction. A delusion. Which it is, by definition. That's not being an ass, that's from a logical stand-point.
I find it odd you only make this exception, as many do, for religion.
I assume you wouldn't consider yourself 'an ass' on the matter of me being able to fly or not. Why not Chet, there's no proof either way, you can't DISPROVE that I can fly, so hey... It's 50/50, respect my opinion. OF COURSE NOT. This is just silly.
Total irrational, heightened respect for religion is wrong. It deserves no get out of jail free card. It's as ridiculous a claim as this, in fact more so and deserves to be challenged as that.
You say there's no proof either way, well what do you mean. The burden of proof is on those who make the claim, not those who deny it. If I claim I can fly, it's up to me to prove that I can otherwise it has to be assumed false. Illogical. Wrong. Unproven. Impossible.
As for resorting to name calling. As you can tell probably just from this response, I do no such thing, I think you'll find that McZu called me a moron after asserting there was no solid proof for Evolution (LMFAAAAOO). So I was responding to that.
I reserve my right to call him a bigot and ignorant. This is a debate and it's about challenging views and responding to them. And him saying there is no evidence for Evolution is plain denial. It's ignorance and delusion no matter which way you look at it.
Menzo wrote:^^ Ayo, lets try to keep it friendly. Unless he attacks you first, I don't think it's fair to attack him by calling him a retard and shit like that.
le tunisien wrote:Hey EminemBase, Why The fuck is there Existence?
i mean why did the first human somehow was created?? and why was the human supposed to be created that way, 2 eyes to see 1 mouth to taste 1 nose to smell 2 legs to move 2 hands to touch
doesnt it seem to be so perfect?who would create something that perfect?oh cmon dont tell me it was created by nature,
what is the goal of life then? imagine there was no existence and there wasnt even Planets or Life or anything it would be just emptyness,
god put us in this life to test us,and then judge us at the judgement dayyou have no idea why you are living? you think its because ur dad fucked ur mom and gave birth to a retard like you that u are supposed to live ur miserable life? oh cmon
and PLEASE stop claiming that u are providing strong and logic proofs that god doesnt exist,well i think u'r only saying god doesnt exist simply cuz u couldnt prove that he exists,and thats it,u was supposed to look around urself and ask urself how would a perfect system,this life,be running if it didnt have any creator
err just like that,everything was made for something? water was made for u to drink,animals for u to eat,plants and shit everything that exists in this life got created it for a reason,except u ofc cuz u are useless!
and yeah everything we are facing now in our life is all written in the quran /bibble,such a coincidence?
just think about it EminemBase and stop being brainwashed, wake up!
thats a desperate post lolra1n wrote:le tunisien wrote:Hey EminemBase, Why The fuck is there Existence?
i mean why did the first human somehow was created?? and why was the human supposed to be created that way, 2 eyes to see 1 mouth to taste 1 nose to smell 2 legs to move 2 hands to touch
doesnt it seem to be so perfect?who would create something that perfect?oh cmon dont tell me it was created by nature,
what is the goal of life then? imagine there was no existence and there wasnt even Planets or Life or anything it would be just emptyness,
god put us in this life to test us,and then judge us at the judgement dayyou have no idea why you are living? you think its because ur dad fucked ur mom and gave birth to a retard like you that u are supposed to live ur miserable life? oh cmon
and PLEASE stop claiming that u are providing strong and logic proofs that god doesnt exist,well i think u'r only saying god doesnt exist simply cuz u couldnt prove that he exists,and thats it,u was supposed to look around urself and ask urself how would a perfect system,this life,be running if it didnt have any creator
err just like that,everything was made for something? water was made for u to drink,animals for u to eat,plants and shit everything that exists in this life got created it for a reason,except u ofc cuz u are useless!
and yeah everything we are facing now in our life is all written in the quran /bibble,such a coincidence?
just think about it EminemBase and stop being brainwashed, wake up!
Lmao. I dont even know where to start.
EminemBase brainwashed/retarded? oh man.
He's definitely one of the more developed minds on this board but you can't see it because he's striking a nerve with you because he's completely destroying your religious/superstitious, illogical arguments.
Your arguments are not based in reality while his are based on empirical evidence, logic, and reason.
le tunisien wrote:Hey EminemBase, Why The fuck is there Existence?
i mean why did the first human somehow was created??
le tunisien" wrote:and why was the human supposed to be created that way, 2 eyes to see 1 mouth to taste 1 nose to smell 2 legs to move 2 hands to touch
doesnt it seem to be so perfect?who would create something that perfect?oh cmon dont tell me it was created by nature
la tunisien wrote:what is the goal of life then? imagine there was no existence and there wasnt even Planets or Life or anything it would be just emptyness,
god put us in this life to test us,and then judge us at the judgement day you have no idea why you are living? you think its because ur dad fucked ur mom and gave birth to a retard like you that u are supposed to live ur miserable life? oh cmon
le tunisien wrote:err just like that,everything was made for something? water was made for u to drink,animals for u to eat,plants and shit everything that exists in this life got created it for a reason,except u ofc cuz u are useless!
le tunisien wrote:and yeah everything we are facing now in our life is all written in the quran /bibble,such a coincidence?
just think about it EminemBase and stop being brainwashed, wake up!
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