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Re: Obama closing Guantanamo

Postby gladimnotsoluble » Jan 25th, '09, 03:35

James R. wrote:That prison was one of the most racist concepts since the concentration camps in Nazi Germany. Anything to do with the patriot act's racism needs to be eradicated.



Guantanamo Bay = bad idea

Not all of Patriot Act = Bad idea. I have no problem with them listening to phone calls to prevent terrorist attacks.
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Re: Obama closing Guantanamo

Postby Deadishot » Jan 25th, '09, 03:56

okay heres something to think about. Where do we put the people who are in Gitmo? do we just let them out. Move them to a different prison? Sure i do believe there are innocent people in there, but i also believe there are crazy fuckers in there too that wanna blow the shit outa us and would if they had 'another' chance to.

I think closing gitmo is a bad idea. I think Obama is going to learn the hard way that not everything can change. No matter what theres going to be people that hate America and the only way we can protect our people is keeping them locked up or killing them. Its a pretty extreme point of view, but something i would much rather have than letting a bunch of crazy suicidal people who hate America running around our streets.
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Re: Obama closing Guantanamo

Postby BlaqReaper » Jan 25th, '09, 05:28

I don't know enough about this issue to have a meaningful opinion lol. But I do know that Guantanamo has a bad image and seems to contradict the very concepts of justice and freedom in the United States. I mean I've read about all the torture and how innocent victims are accidentally placed there, and etc. but I don't know how good these sources are. Nevertheless, with so many countries having such a negative image of the United States, I think it's good Obama is closing it. It's not like he's setting all the prisoners free, I'm sure he's transferring them somewhere else. It is a great message that he's sending out to the world though and we can really use that right now.
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Re: Obama closing Guantanamo

Postby <Stiiccy> » Jan 25th, '09, 05:33

BlaqReaper wrote:I don't know enough about this issue to have a meaningful opinion lol. But I do know that Guantanamo has a bad image and seems to contradict the very concepts of justice and freedom in the United States. I mean I've read about all the torture and how innocent victims are accidentally placed there, and etc. but I don't know how good these sources are. Nevertheless, with so many countries having such a negative image of the United States, I think it's good Obama is closing it. It's not like he's setting all the prisoners free, I'm sure he's transferring them somewhere else. It is a great message that he's sending out to the world though and we can really use that right now.

what if he just sets them free...thenn when those fuckers go blow somthing up ..who in the hell you think there gonna blame?
god damn no wonder everone thinks were stupid
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Re: Obama closing Guantanamo

Postby BlaqReaper » Jan 25th, '09, 07:07

XXStiiCCyXX wrote:
BlaqReaper wrote:I don't know enough about this issue to have a meaningful opinion lol. But I do know that Guantanamo has a bad image and seems to contradict the very concepts of justice and freedom in the United States. I mean I've read about all the torture and how innocent victims are accidentally placed there, and etc. but I don't know how good these sources are. Nevertheless, with so many countries having such a negative image of the United States, I think it's good Obama is closing it. It's not like he's setting all the prisoners free, I'm sure he's transferring them somewhere else. It is a great message that he's sending out to the world though and we can really use that right now.

what if he just sets them free...thenn when those fuckers go blow somthing up ..who in the hell you think there gonna blame?
god damn no wonder everone thinks were stupid


Because Obama is not retarded? Who in their right mind would close down a prison and set everyone in there free?

Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/ ... 6261.shtml

He's moving them to other Navy Bases. Hopefully they will get a trial and be viewed as innocent until proven guilty. And if they are innocent, they better be released promptly. And you know what? If we don't release the innocent ones, the U.S. will be seen as a hypocritical nation who preaches freedom and justice, but turns the other eye to their own actions. Other nations will think the U.S. can't get off their high horses and has become a country that loves to boss other less powerful nations around. They will not only lose respect to the U.S., but begin to despise the country....and that's how real terrorists are created. Not because some random guy looks Middle Eastern or wears a turban or is Muslim.
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Re: Obama closing Guantanamo

Postby <Stiiccy> » Jan 25th, '09, 07:09

BlaqReaper wrote:
XXStiiCCyXX wrote:
BlaqReaper wrote:I don't know enough about this issue to have a meaningful opinion lol. But I do know that Guantanamo has a bad image and seems to contradict the very concepts of justice and freedom in the United States. I mean I've read about all the torture and how innocent victims are accidentally placed there, and etc. but I don't know how good these sources are. Nevertheless, with so many countries having such a negative image of the United States, I think it's good Obama is closing it. It's not like he's setting all the prisoners free, I'm sure he's transferring them somewhere else. It is a great message that he's sending out to the world though and we can really use that right now.

what if he just sets them free...thenn when those fuckers go blow somthing up ..who in the hell you think there gonna blame?
god damn no wonder everone thinks were stupid


Because Obama is not retarded? Who in their right mind would close down a prison and set everyone in there free?

Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/ ... 6261.shtml

He's moving them to other Navy Bases. Hopefully they will get a trial and be viewed as innocent until proven guilty. And if they are innocent, they better be released promptly. And you know what? If we don't release the innocent ones, the U.S. will be seen as a hypocritical nation who preaches freedom and justice, but turns the other eye to their own actions. Other nations will think the U.S. can't get off their high horses and has become a country that loves to boss other less powerful nations around. They will not only lose respect to the U.S., but begin to despise the country....and that's how real terrorists are created. Not because some random guy looks Middle Eastern or wears a turban or is Muslim.

Dude you obviously are missing the very point of being an american...

we dont give a fuck...especially about what other countries think

fuck all of em in the prison...id kill myself if i could
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Re: Obama closing Guantanamo

Postby Bernard » Jan 25th, '09, 17:03

The most of the prisoners in Guantanamo are not even terrorists ... In Guantanamo they didn't respect the human rights.

Bush's politic was was based on terror, making people scare, so that's was a good excuse to make Guantanamo, but it was a bad idea since the begining.

And I agree when people say it's difficult to close guantanamo, cuz' if you release them in USA, they will be killed and if they return in their own land, they will be killed too and in Europe, only Spain is ready to recieve some ex-prisoners, but other countries are not so sure, they still examinating the problem.
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Re: Obama closing Guantanamo

Postby Bernard » Jan 25th, '09, 17:07

XXStiiCCyXX wrote:well just look at em...those little people in europe..haha its pathetic


Look all those 'little' americans who loses millions of jobs, the crisis began in America "haha its pathetic". We're livin' the good life here man !

Man, actually, I'm sure you never been in Europe, so you can't tell how it is here.

I know that some people in USA still think we have regions whitout elecrticity and that we still riding with horses ... Don't think you're superior to us, cuz' y'all commin' from Europe.
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Re: Obama closing Guantanamo

Postby Kez » Jan 25th, '09, 18:32

XXStiiCCyXX wrote:
James R. wrote:That prison was one of the most racist concepts since the concentration camps in Nazi Germany. Anything to do with the patriot act's racism needs to be eradicated.

in some cases...racism is justified...im sorry but thats how i feel


God you really are such a racist

I personally think it's a good thing because innocent people got locked up there due to Bush's idiocy.
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Re: Obama closing Guantanamo

Postby Bernard » Jan 25th, '09, 18:59

Kez wrote:
God you really are such a racist

I personally think it's a good thing because innocent people got locked up there due to Bush's idiocy.

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Re: Obama closing Guantanamo

Postby BlaqReaper » Jan 25th, '09, 19:01

Bernard wrote:I know that some people in USA still think we have regions whitout elecrticity and that we still riding with horses ... Don't think you're superior to us, cuz' y'all commin' from Europe.

We have Amish people here :).
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Re: Obama closing Guantanamo

Postby <Stiiccy> » Jan 25th, '09, 22:45

Kez wrote:
XXStiiCCyXX wrote:
James R. wrote:That prison was one of the most racist concepts since the concentration camps in Nazi Germany. Anything to do with the patriot act's racism needs to be eradicated.

in some cases...racism is justified...im sorry but thats how i feel


God you really are such a racist

I personally think it's a good thing because innocent people got locked up there due to Bush's idiocy.

no not racist...just hatred...you just don't forget some things :whistle: ...like mutha fuckas blowin your shit up
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Re: Obama closing Guantanamo

Postby <Stiiccy> » Jan 25th, '09, 22:48

Bernard wrote:
XXStiiCCyXX wrote:well just look at em...those little people in europe..haha its pathetic


Look all those 'little' americans who loses millions of jobs, the crisis began in America "haha its pathetic". We're livin' the good life here man !

Man, actually, I'm sure you never been in Europe, so you can't tell how it is here.

I know that some people in USA still think we have regions whitout elecrticity and that we still riding with horses ... Don't think you're superior to us, cuz' y'all commin' from Europe.

actually I was born in the United States...I can't help where my ancesters are from ...and on to the pathetic thing...

I'm sittin here right now...drinkin coke watchin tv and i feel just fine...I havent lost my job...I havent been hurt at all by the economic thing besides payin a lil more for gas...

were living fine here...stop whatchin the god damn news,...you don't know what the fuck it's like here...
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Re: Obama closing Guantanamo

Postby Robbie G » Jan 25th, '09, 23:17

I don't care what anybody say's we should be able to torture terrorist if they have important information. And I'm tired of everyone hating on the U.S, it seems like it's just the cool thing to do now.

We do more for Africa and Mexico and third world countries than like anyone else. Were doing our part..
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Re: Obama closing Guantanamo

Postby <Stiiccy> » Jan 25th, '09, 23:29

Shady Babie wrote:I don't care what anybody say's we should be able to torture terrorist if they have important information. And I'm tired of everyone hating on the U.S, it seems like it's just the cool thing to do now.

We do more for Africa and Mexico and third world countries than like anyone else. Were doing our part..

dude theres no use in convincing them...im so glad they have to live in shitty countries and not a good country like ours..
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