The Biggie And Pac Death

[flayke]

He made 2Pac say G-unit. Come on!

^Bahaha

I was going to create a thread but thought id bump this one up - its a damn fascinating topic, so many possible theories. I havent done enough research myself to fully come to a conclusion yet, but since we're on a shady site i thought id ask - at the end of Fubba U Cubba Kubba, when Em says 'Hip hop aint been the same since Tupac moved to Cuba on us' does that mean he, like many people, believe Tupac to be alive and hiding in Cuba? Or is he simply taking the piss? Considering he mentions Tupac was murdered in Public Enemy #1

Personally I never really held much belief in the 'Tupac is alive' theories but this actually got me thinking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PYQNefp ... annel_page
might not be anything new in that vid for ya'll but it kinda sums up all the evidence for that conspiracy...

will the truth every be revealed?

[Xray]

Listen 2pac ft. Obie Trice - Hennessey, how come pac ''can'' say o.trice's name in that song?. Trice wasnt known at '96?

I do have to say you're being a bit silly there. It's obviously Eminem's production. He takes words from songs or interviews and puts them together to make the word. He made 2Pac say G-unit. Come on!

Btw, some things are done by the labels so to make people get hyped thinking that he's alive and shit, it's just a publicity stunt.

Nah its just a tradition when collabing with a dead rapper, there has to be a connection for the audience to enjoy it, and if I had Pacs vocal and I was to make a song and collab with him. I'd have him say my name a dozen times lmao. Outro be on some "Newest Member my mans SaJJad, outlaws representin all day everyday" Haha I think its cool that Em did that.

[DrRapid]

I've always thought his death has something to do with the LAPD (Biggie & Tupac documentary talks about it) and also some involvement with Suge Knight.

This "7" is strange, misterious, weird but some of the theories are just retarded.

[James R.]

^Bahaha

I was going to create a thread but thought id bump this one up - its a damn fascinating topic, so many possible theories. I havent done enough research myself to fully come to a conclusion yet, but since we're on a shady site i thought id ask - at the end of Fubba U Cubba Kubba, when Em says 'Hip hop aint been the same since Tupac moved to Cuba on us' does that mean he, like many people, believe Tupac to be alive and hiding in Cuba? Or is he simply taking the piss? Considering he mentions Tupac was murdered in Public Enemy #1

Personally I never really held much belief in the 'Tupac is alive' theories but this actually got me thinking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PYQNefp ... annel_page
might not be anything new in that vid for ya'll but it kinda sums up all the evidence for that conspiracy...

will the truth every be revealed?

Interesting video you posted. It had a lot of really strange, interesting shit in it. Some would say that it's all coincidence and people are reading WAYYY too far into things, but I dunno. I mean Pac was an extremely paranoid guy. After a while, especially after he went to jail and got shot the first time, all he talked about was death. Most of his songs has subtle (actually usually not so subtle) nuances of death and resurrection.

As for the Eminem line, I'm pretty sure he was just using that as a metaphor for Pac leaving the game. People have been saying Pac is in Africa/S. America/Cuba for years on top of years now, so I don't think it's anything past that.

[flayke]

^ cheers for the reply, yeah, i guess ur right about eminem alluding to that.

I really dont know what to think regarding Tupac...sometimes its just wishful thinking, but then theres no denying some of the info brought to light...hmm.. There was also that song by 2pac that when played backwards, supposedly had a subliminal message about him being alive, havent heard it myself though, if its for real then hes a bloody genius, if not then lol @ us all i guess we'll know by 2014 haha

[DrRapid]

^ cheers for the reply, yeah, i guess ur right about eminem alluding to that.

I really dont know what to think regarding Tupac...sometimes its just wishful thinking, but then theres no denying some of the info brought to light...hmm.. There was also that song by 2pac that when played backwards, supposedly had a subliminal message about him being alive, havent heard it myself though, if its for real then hes a bloody genius, if not then lol @ us all i guess we'll know by 2014 haha

That bit in bold, about the subliminal message is true. Only about a couple of weeks ago I put the song on reverse to that part and you do hear something extremely similar to "Yes, I'm alive." That is sort of creepy, I have it saved so I could always easily send it to you.

That bit about 2014 makes me laugh, cause when he doesn't come back that year he'll come back in the next 7 or so LOL.

[mcZu]

^Yeah its true, when you reverse a specefic part of This Life I lead; you can clearly hear the following message, Yes I'm Alive And Me Missing You. Just check this vid out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWa-clWMZ7Q

I tried it out myself using Audacity to reverse that part, and it does sound like he is saying yes I'm alive and me missing you. Though it can be just a coincidence, but I personaly do believe Pac did it on purpose.
But it doesn't prove shit, it is just something to add to the pile of ''Strange things'' concerning Pacs death.

[DrRapid]

^Yeah its true, when you reverse a specefic part of This Life I lead; you can clearly hear the following message, Yes I'm Alive And Me Missing You. Just check this vid out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWa-clWMZ7Q

I tried it out myself using Audacity to reverse that part, and it does sound like he is saying yes I'm alive and me missing you. Though it can be just a coincidence, but I personaly do believe Pac did it on purpose.
But it doesn't prove shit, it is just something to add to the pile of ''Strange things'' concerning Pacs death.

I''ve tried it and he does say "Yes, I'm alive" but I don't know about the missing you part. *checks*

Oh shit yeah, he does say "And me missing you" but that sounds retarded. It's not as obvious as "Yes, I'm alive" but it does seem like he does say that.

[James R.]

Yeah I really dunno. There's a lot out there that makes me think it's possible, but at the same time there's a lot in my logic that makes me think the chances of this being a huge conspiracy is just a little too far out. Oh and I don't think he'll be coming back. He might be alive, but it'd be so pointless to fake your own death and then come back. I just don't see the point in that. Especially when Suge (who I believe is who wanted Pac killed in the first place) is still alive and broke as fuck.

[mcZu]

^Who knows, maybe Suge is in it as well. All I know is that Pac was supposed to come back in 2007, now they say 2014... If that aint true it'll probably turn in to 2021, and so on. If Pac did stage his own death, then according to The Prince (Written by Machiavelli) he should come back. We all know Pac was a fan of Machiavelli (Makevelli)...So who knows..

[James R.]

Yeah it's one of those "Just wait and see" kind of things. He'll be pissed if the world ends in 2012 though lmao

[DrRapid]

I honestly don't believe in him being alive. Too many facts prove that he's dead but I won't mention them now, though losts of them like James R are out of my own logic really. I believe his death was to do with Suge who owed Tupac lots of money, plus Tupac was going to leave the label taking all his unreleased song with him so for Suge Knight, Tupac must of been more valuable dead than alive.

What's very fishy is Tupac's murder case in whole. What the police did and everything.

Yeah it's one of those "Just wait and see" kind of things. He'll be pissed if the world ends in 2012 though lmao

Lol yeah, he comes out "Yo, I'm alive!" and then "What the, goddamn I came out too late" apocalypse...


All the theories about him being alive, the theories within covers, videos, songs, whatever, etc. are publicity stunts. Sometimes I can't believe how people say "OMG, in the I Wonder If Heaven's Got A Ghetto video the town is called Rukhas which is the other way round of Shakur and at the end it says 4:03, blablabla, he must be alive." I'm thinking, look, this was made after his death, can't you see it's to make everything a bigger deal which brings in more business and money for the people managing Pac's material. it's free publicity.

[mcZu]

^Yeah true true; however, you can't dismiss the idea of him being alive. I mean, you really think Suge would go to these lenghts so fans would think pac's is still alive? Nahh I don't think so... He might have added some cream to the chocolate, but the strange facts that started this conspiracy shit can't be neglected that easy.

[flayke]

wow,thanks for that link

Theres good points for and against, i kinda agree with James R about the possibility of him being alive, but, even if he is alive; highly unlikely that he'd return... i mean think how far-fetched it sounds, would probably be one of the biggest revelations in history... besides if he was to return in 2014, he'd be put straight into prison wouldnt he? As its illegal to deliberately fake your death for a certain amount of time?

There are also purported 'sightings' of him on youtube lol, thats getting a lil desperate, just paparazzi doin their thing i guess

[threeandtwenty]

wasn't kadafi going to rat out pac's killer?