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Re: Can you explain how this is racist?

Postby mcZu » Dec 1st, '09, 19:03

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mcZu wrote:I call people Paki, N.igger, and whatever... But, I guess, where I'm from it's okay for someone like me to say such things. Considering the fact that I'm not white, and not black either. Light skinned FTW!

You've called someone a N.IGGER, not niigga??

Both, yeah, both. :smoking:
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Re: Can you explain how this is racist?

Postby AliJack » Dec 1st, '09, 19:04

mcZu wrote:
AliJack wrote:
mcZu wrote:I call people Paki, N.igger, and whatever... But, I guess, where I'm from it's okay for someone like me to say such things. Considering the fact that I'm not white, and not black either. Light skinned FTW!

You've called someone a N.IGGER, not niigga??

Both, yeah, both. :smoking:

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Re: Can you explain how this is racist?

Postby mcZu » Dec 1st, '09, 19:05

^He started, he called me a n.igger too. :(
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Re: Can you explain how this is racist?

Postby Arabian Shady » Dec 1st, '09, 20:29

Stick to the topic wiggaz :n:
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Re: Can you explain how this is racist?

Postby mcZu » Dec 1st, '09, 20:31

Arabian Shady wrote:Stick to the topic ***** :n:

We are nigga, we are.
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Re: Can you explain how this is racist?

Postby AliJack » Dec 1st, '09, 21:13

we reppin that sand niigga movement :worship: MIDEAAAASST!






Paki is racist imo :'(
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Re: Can you explain how this is racist?

Postby Sophie » Dec 1st, '09, 21:15

Will ALL of you stick to the topic :shakehead:
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Re: Can you explain how this is racist?

Postby AliJack » Dec 1st, '09, 21:18

Sophie wrote:Will ALL of you stick to the topic :shakehead:

there. :)
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Sophie, did you fuck with this post, I can't remember :-k
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Re: Can you explain how this is racist?

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Dec 2nd, '09, 12:06

Sophie wrote:I'm not denying that, but it's never gonna be deemed racist calling names towards whites, period. It's like a black person saying to us 'oh you white'...but that's never gonna be called racist. They'll always have a power over white people for that because of the whole history.

That's an extremely ignorant statement.
Racism is racism, period. Slavery and prejudiced laws are not the white man's cross to bear.
There's no such thing as an enemy in an absolute sense. Enemies change with the times, along with nations and ideologies.
Besides, at the current statistic, blacks will eventually overcome whites in population. Whites won't always be "in power" like many people think.
I'm sure you just thought of an argument quickly just for the sake of it, but looking back, it doesn't seem right, does it?
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Re: Can you explain how this is racist?

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Dec 2nd, '09, 16:13

Pakistan doesn't like its Pakistans called pakis, because it challenges their fanship.
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Re: Can you explain how this is racist?

Postby Sophie » Dec 2nd, '09, 16:26

AliJack wrote:
Sophie wrote:Will ALL of you stick to the topic :shakehead:

there. :)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sophie, did you fuck with this post, I can't remember :-k

No i didn't.

GoodGirlsGetGutted wrote:That's an extremely ignorant statement.
Racism is racism, period.

I never said it wasn't that but what i'm saying is, is that it will never be deemed racist. Well okay, i can't know that, maybe in years to come things will change, who knows, but so far, calling a white person names HAS never been deemed racist, and if it has, it's never taken as seriously as it is towards a black person.


Also, try not to double post :flower:
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Re: Can you explain how this is racist?

Postby GoodGirlsGetGutted » Dec 2nd, '09, 16:46

Sophie wrote:
Also, try not to double post :flower:

I didn't want to put a stupid joke right after a heartfelt debate. It would have devalued my points.
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Re: Can you explain how this is racist?

Postby Tornado » Dec 2nd, '09, 17:39

the term paki was first used in a racist manner, like n*gger was, that's why it's frowned upon. People forget the meaning of shit and use it stupidly, like other races using N*gger, almost saying it jokingly tryna devalue the meaning and then people counter argue saying we can't use the word either. If you didnt want black people to think tis acceptable to use the word n*gger to one another, go back to 1886 and stop slavery, otherwise i'ma continue saying it and punch any person of any othwer race who does
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Re: Can you explain how this is racist?

Postby notoriouS-K-M » Dec 2nd, '09, 18:52

Look.........I'm from Pakistan and don't really think that the term "paki" is racist. I guess the tone it is used in might lead someone to regard it as racist but even then if a word isn't racist to begin with then how can it be forced to be racist? And it's nothing like N.igger becasue:
1- Paki isn't a word. But if we were to find a meaning for it then: "Pak" means "Pure" or "Clean"....."Not Dirty". So "Paki" would be "Someone who's clean or pure".
2- It's NOT used by people from Pakistan because they refer to themselves as "Pakistanis"......Paki, as far as I know, is only used by non-Pakistanis......and as I said, it's not racist.....rather, it's a good thing.
I guess people who've grown up in foreign lands and don't have as much knowledge about their language might take it as racist. Because anyone who knows Urdu (Pakistan's Official Language) or Arabic would have the sense to know that being pak (or paak, as it is pronounced) isn't a bad thing.
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Re: Can you explain how this is racist?

Postby Xray » Dec 3rd, '09, 06:09

Some people look low at Pakistanis because of where they live and as Alijack said, "3rd world". Also, it is very important for a person to make it 100% sure as possible that he/she is not racist when they are talking to/about a colored person, specially a person that has faced racism countless times. Therefore, by using the correct term, Pakistani it would make it very clear that you are not racist and that you respect the person for who he/she is.

Paki seems like an insult because Pakistanis are brown, therefore they don't know if you're racist or not, so if a racist person calls them "You Paki fuck" for example, then when you call them a "Paki" they would think you too are racist because of the racism they have faced. Racism affects a person a lot, it makes you very paranoid when nick names are thrown at you.

You've never heard a Brit complain about being called a Brit, why? because they have accepted that nickname, because last I checked, Britain did the concurring and ruling around the world, so why would British people be paranoid about racist comments being thrown at them? Also in England I've talked to some British peeps, not from this forum and it seems like in England some people look down at Pakistanis, therefore creating a paranoia activity amongst Pakistanis.

And in case your wondering, no I'm not from Pakistan, I just know about racism cause I face it more than 4-5 times a week, and it fucking sucks.
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