God doesn't exist

[GoodGirlsGetGutted]

I honestly wasn't trying to insult you, I was simply questioning necessity. I'm in no way accusing you of plagarism. Honestly, it was more out of conversation than anything else. I apologize for offending you. That was certainly not intended.

[ra1n]

lmfao ^ Embase, I don't think he was implying that you were copying or taking their ideas.

I think he was stating that your ideas and philosphy are very similar to the 3 aforementioned.

If I'm not mistaken, What he was trying say is - What new ideas/philosophy (that haven't been covered extensively by Dawkins/Hitchens/Harris) are you going to bring to the table?

[EminemBase]

Oh sorry, when I read it I thought it was in reference to my posts here.

And I saw it in a sarcastic tone sort of in this light...
"Do you actually have any ideas of your own or are you only capable of re-saying their shit"

In terms of my BOOK, didn't know you were on about that, I apologize

Um, yes I believe it will bring something new because as I said... I've only partially read Dawkins' book.

I purposely stopped reading it half-way through and haven't read any other main books on it for that very reason. I don't want to, even subconsciously re-write their ideas.

There's no point in bringing out a cheap knock-off.

But despite not reading their books fully, I'm obviously totally aware of almost all their views anyway. But my book will hopefully delve a lot deeper than their's have. I'm very obsessive and believe me, this thing is turning into a mountain and there's so many elements of religion and its origin / possible point or detriment to humanity that they haven't touched on.

I'm very conscious of being original of course. There's no point in writing it otherwise.

I want to make this book the be-all and end-all lmao. As arrogant as that sounds, that's my aspiration for it and I'm going to try my best to achieve that. Dawkins' went pretty deep into the logical side of it and Hitchens went pretty deep into the moral and political sides of it.

I'm going more specifically into the psychology, history and other. Trust me, it'll be different

Dawkins is obviously a scientist so he's very... Maticulous and... Pin-point in his arguments. As for Hitchens, he's also a rational guy and uses scientific arguments too but his arguments are usually very... Personally-tainted slants on religion's detriment and history to humanity.

I'm just writing what comes naturally to me, I don't find writing hard. All I find hard is arranging it as I go off on 100 tangents and trying to organise and stick to topic per topic gets messy.

But just self-judging on my own writing on it so far... I don't think it particularly sounds like any of them. If I had to summize it I'd say it's Dawkins meets Hitchens meets... Derren Brown. Lmao. I like to stress points until I... Exhaust myself, until I feel I've reached my capacity on that point. For then.

But much like Em when he kept scrapping music because it didn't feel 'current enough', I have this obsessive... Almost irrational impulse lol. I keep scrapping and re-writing everything... Even... Seriously (and no ego involed) but, very well written pages upon pages. Because I feel like I can update, better and progress my thoughts.

As I read it, it doesn't feel 'new' enough. This is a constant problem of course lmao, especially when I want to go and get published and I may keep changing and updating it.

[ra1n]

Base, your mind just never shuts off does it? lmfao. adhd?

[EminemBase]

^ Yes well I actually do have ADHD.

I met a guy with it whilst I was living in a shared house about a year ago. He'd just been diagnosed with it and immediately thought I had it as we both immediately clicked and were having 10 hour debates on religion and politics within the night lmao.

We did get introduced through an equally... Guy, nevermind.

Yeah but anyway, I spent months after that researching ADHD intensely. And I mean, super-intensely. There is no doubt in my mind I have it.

Unfortunately though, ADHD-support in the UK is terrible.

I EVENTUALLY got to a general physiatrist who was an arrogant prick and knew nothing about ADHD. Total waste of time. What's annoying is this though...

He let me sit there, explain (in fuuucccking depth) my problems with ADHD symptoms, why I think I have it. And believe me, I did it very articulately and properly. I could tell all along this arrogant turd just doubted its very existence as some general phys's do. Even though they know nothing about it. It's not immediately visually apparent, they're just shut to it.

SO, after all this he THEN decides to tell me... Arrogantly, as if he was proud of it that he's not an ADHD specialist, doesn't know very much about it at all but doesn't think I have it.

Now either he genuinely thinks from his self-admitted uninformed viewpoint that I don't or he thinks I do but doesn't want to go through the mill of getting me treated because it's a pain in the ass for him and the system. I think the second one.

Because = I also took along school reports. ADHD is genetic, if you have it - You'll have it in childhood. So after he dismissed I had it, I refered him back to my school reports... About 10 separate teacher accounts, all of which constantly mentioned "distracted" - "easily distracted" - The core feature of ATTENTION **DEFICIT** disorder. So then he was forced to admit that he thinks I may have a 'mild' strain of ADHD but that ADHD was about willpower anyway and the treatment isn't very successful.

My blood was boiling. This proved to me beyond a doubt he has no idea what he's talking about. ADHD is the most proven genetic disorders of the three majors, including Autism by the way. You can't change the behaviour of ADHD by fucking willpower. Also, the main treatment - Ritalin has about 90% success rate amongst adults. So this guy was clearly trying to fob-me-off.

And when I challenged his views with these facts, he was banged to rights, clearly caught out and just basically said "look... If you want to challenge me okay then but I'm writing that you don't have it". So now I have the challenge of getting to a specialist because the main NHS system failed me.

HOWEVER, I've since found out that it's my legal right to have at least one consultation, from my GP with a specialist. Not a general. This right has yet to be granted, so I will fight for it. As untreated ADHD is very detrimental. I actually seriously think Em has it by the way.

If he does and he had it treated... Wow, just thinking what the guy could do artistically lmao.

[Le Tunisien]

EminemBase lol @ the essays you are writing ! lol are you a lawyer or something? cuz you seem to always find something to say whenever you are wrong and act like u'r right!

ok,you want us to prove that god exist? there is no proof actually,its something you feel and notice by thinkin reasonably and logically,and the bibble says everything,why dont you try to read it actually??
You been saying stuffs like "oh why do u go to doctor,god will heal you ! hes a god! " and blablabla thats not true,god never said he will heal you when you get hurt and never said you will hurt yourself at that specific moments,god put you in this earth to test you,life is just a test,and gave you a body to take care of and protect it,why u keep bringing that card of oh dont do that or this god will do it for u? all what can god do for u are simple wishes/prays that comes with time ,but be reasonable its not like u will pray god for a million buck ofc that would never happen,but when someone is hopeless and feel weak,he prays to god and god will listen to him,its been proven through life experience,i know my uncle is a good scientist who Never believed in god,and said god doesnt exist its just bullshit,and the day he got very sick and about to die,he started saying god please help me,and we was like is that now that u remember god?and he said "only god can help me" so yeah its just a belief so dont ask me to prove that god exists its not like i would tell u ,look god is in this corner ,?!i mean cmon thats ridiculous

i could ask u questions you wouldnt be able to answer em,ok
why is there 7 planets,and only EARTH was supposed to have Humans,Landscapes,Animals...life??while there is no life in the other planets,why??so you say the first human was created like that?ok why was it on earth not jupiter??cuz god chose so,
i mean could you imagine this whole world planets,and this system being created with no creator?
you dont make sense

[EminemBase]

^ What the hell are you on about.

Again, due to your irrational mindset, you come in - see a long post and make your own assumption.

I was answering a previous guy who asked me a question you fucking moron. Be gone.

[mcZu]

^ What the hell are you on about.

Again, due to your irrational mindset, you come in - see a long post and make your own assumption.

I was answering a previous guy who asked me a question you fucking moron. Be gone.

Do you know when your book is finished, an estimated date or something? I might even pick it up, I'm always curious to read the theories/ideas from people who don't believe in God.

[EminemBase]

^ I have no idea at this point. I might write some more on it now since I've been up all night and it makes me write hyper.

I keep scrapping and re-writing it but I'll try to stick with it and keep progressing now. Then obsessively edit it later.

I reckon about... 6 Months to finish it, if I keep writing. Then I need to get it published so no idea how long that will take, need to try get a publisher to do it.

[mcZu]

Alright, goo luck with that. I might not agree with your ideas but I reckon you got ambition and are eager to bring your philosophy over to the public, something we share, so good luck.

[EminemBase]

^ Okay thanks. Ditto.

Well I'm interested in... Having an impact. Not just in literacy although that will be my next serious indulgence, for a while.

I also get excited by the idea of a religious book as it immediately incites debate. I love debate and I'd love to debate any atheist or religious person if I ever get the book out

[Le Tunisien]

^ What the hell are you on about.

Again, due to your irrational mindset, you come in - see a long post and make your own assumption.

I was answering a previous guy who asked me a question you fucking moron. Be gone.

cuz i dont bother answering babbling,u didnt answer arabianshady's point at the first place,all u said is how right you are and how wrong any other theory is
so yeah u couldnt answer my points neither
and i dont see wich of your point i was supposed to answer whatever !

stop ur excuses if u feel that all ur posts got ethered

[EminemBase]

^ Lmao, MY posts got ethered?

Man, you really do live in a backwards World, even in these small situations in your head.

Every rational person of this thread agreed that I ethered you and of course every irrational person or person who believes in god will just agree that you did me.

Although I might add I answered every single one of your challenges and you failed to answer a single one of mine. So, take what you will from that. You personally, nothing I presume.

Anyway, I'm done debating god with you. I'll do as another member advised and just ignore you.

[Le Tunisien]

^ Lmao, MY posts got ethered?

Man, you really do live in a backwards World, even in these small situations in your head.

Every rational person of this thread agreed that I ethered you and of course every irrational person or person who believes in god will just agree that you did me.

Although I might add I answered every single one of your challenges and you failed to answer a single one of mine. So, take what you will from that. You personally, nothing I presume.

Anyway, I'm done debating god with you. I'll do as another member advised and just ignore you.

bullshit,
i couldnt find any 'challenge" through ur posts,you are an atheist,there aint so many atheists in this world,there are more people who believe in god than these fucking atheists who think they are right and they try to brainwash people,
ok im done talk to you,
i know for a fact that god exists,thats all

[Slimm]

i couldnt find any 'challenge" through ur posts,you are an atheist,there aint so many atheists in this world,there are more people who believe in god than these fucking atheists who think they are right and they try to brainwash people,

I never seen athiests coming to my door or doing any crusades in the past, neither have i seen them with signs 'those who believe need to be beheaded'.