EminemBase vs. Blu - God

[Le Tunisien]

@Class : Yes Block did make you look foolish ...cuz it is actually 50 / 50 chance you have no evident proof and neither do it so its Wether god exists , wether NOT..whichever god anyone could be talkin about ,so stop using the incorrect argument of "there are many gods" , the point is EITHER there is GOD behind all this or there is NO god behind all this..just accept it and stop giving your low level arguments with all these annoying smileys and pictures.get over it its 50 50 choose whichever side you want

[classthe_king]

@Class : Yes Block did make you look foolish ...cuz it is actually 50 / 50 chance you have no evident proof and neither do it so its Wether god exists , wether NOT..whichever god anyone could be talkin about ,so stop using the incorrect argument of "there are many gods" , the point is EITHER there is GOD behind all this or there is NO god behind all this..just accept it and stop giving your low level arguments with all these annoying smileys and pictures.get over it its 50 50 choose whichever side you want

Everyone who posted in this thread, even the people on your own side, agree that you're an idiot and have no idea what you're talking about so I would suggest you stop commenting.

[Le Tunisien]

@Class : Yes Block did make you look foolish ...cuz it is actually 50 / 50 chance you have no evident proof and neither do it so its Wether god exists , wether NOT..whichever god anyone could be talkin about ,so stop using the incorrect argument of "there are many gods" , the point is EITHER there is GOD behind all this or there is NO god behind all this..just accept it and stop giving your low level arguments with all these annoying smileys and pictures.get over it its 50 50 choose whichever side you want

Everyone who posted in this thread, even the people on your own side, agree that you're an idiot and have no idea what you're talking about so I would suggest you stop commenting.

oh really? and i have another idea saying that you'r such an annoying fucking idiot, it's useless to debate with you .

[classthe_king]

@Class : Yes Block did make you look foolish ...cuz it is actually 50 / 50 chance you have no evident proof and neither do it so its Wether god exists , wether NOT..whichever god anyone could be talkin about ,so stop using the incorrect argument of "there are many gods" , the point is EITHER there is GOD behind all this or there is NO god behind all this..just accept it and stop giving your low level arguments with all these annoying smileys and pictures.get over it its 50 50 choose whichever side you want

Everyone who posted in this thread, even the people on your own side, agree that you're an idiot and have no idea what you're talking about so I would suggest you stop commenting.

oh really? and i have another idea saying that you'r such an annoying fucking idiot, it's useless to debate with you .

lol okay

[Fleka]

I`ll tell you one thing guys. No matter if the God exists or not (depends if you are a beliver or not)-in God`s name we kill people, earn money and jobs and shelter to pedophiles. God and faith became tools for making money.
Churches are all about the money. If you don`t pay enough, you or anyone from your family dosen`t even get a proper burial. Church is more involved in politics than in anything else. All that stuff made me not caring at all about God, Church and all that stuff.

[classthe_king]

I`ll tell you one thing guys. No matter if the God exists or not (depends if you are a beliver or not)-in God`s name we kill people, earn money and jobs and shelter to pedophiles. God and faith became tools for making money.
Churches are all about the money. If you don`t pay enough, you or anyone from your family dosen`t even get a proper burial. Church is more involved in politics than in anything else. All that stuff made me not caring at all about God, Church and all that stuff.

Yeah that's 100% true that's what puts me off to religion. That's why I think if we educated society and got rid of religion we would function better and overall be better off.

[Eedee]

I`ll tell you one thing guys. No matter if the God exists or not (depends if you are a beliver or not)-in God`s name we kill people, earn money and jobs and shelter to pedophiles. God and faith became tools for making money.
Churches are all about the money. If you don`t pay enough, you or anyone from your family dosen`t even get a proper burial. Church is more involved in politics than in anything else. All that stuff made me not caring at all about God, Church and all that stuff.

Yeah that's 100% true that's what puts me off to religion. That's why I think if we educated society and got rid of religion we would function better and overall be better off.

Yep. Countries with the highest rate of atheists also have the lowest crime rate as well. That's really telling.

[Block]

God existing has nothing to do with the quantum state of atoms. Calling someone a simpleton after being wrong doesn't make you look good

Emotes as a defense mechanism. You're too predictable. Yes, I was correct in calling you a simpleton. The fact you believe I'm wrong in relating God to Schrodinger's cat only shows how little you actually understand about this argument. The fact you're even still attempting to argue is comical (after I pissed in your mouth last time). Shall we begin the education process once again?

Schrodinger's cat, depicted here, is an experiment that explains Schrodinger's thoughts on this explanation. The Copenhagen interpretation states that quantum mechanics does not deal with objective reality, but rather probabilities (hmm sounds close to my mathematical argument) dealing with particles / waves that do not fit a description.

One interpretation of the Schrodinger cat experiment is:

In this interpretation, every event is a branch point. The cat is both alive and dead—regardless of whether the box is opened—but the "alive" and "dead" cats are in different branches of the universe that are equally real but cannot interact with each other.

Given this thought process, we can deduce that God can both exist and not exist within the universe.


Quantum physics is a very theoretical science. Everything to do with it is on the outer edges of what we think we know.

Because you're just slinging stupid shit to try and get under my skin but I honestly could care less about anything you say because you still DON'T BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION

Truth isn't stupid shit. Also, "I don't care what you say because you don't believe what I do!!!" hahahah. Most immature thing ever?

[classthe_king]

God existing has nothing to do with the quantum state of atoms. Calling someone a simpleton after being wrong doesn't make you look good

Emotes as a defense mechanism. You're too predictable. Yes, I was correct in calling you a simpleton. The fact you believe I'm wrong in relating God to Schrodinger's cat only shows how little you actually understand about this argument. The fact you're even still attempting to argue is comical (after I pissed in your mouth last time). Shall we begin the education process once again?

Schrodinger's cat, depicted here, is an experiment that explains Schrodinger's thoughts on this explanation. The Copenhagen interpretation states that quantum mechanics does not deal with objective reality, but rather probabilities (hmm sounds close to my mathematical argument) dealing with particles / waves that do not fit a description.

One interpretation of the Schrodinger cat experiment is:

In this interpretation, every event is a branch point. The cat is both alive and dead—regardless of whether the box is opened—but the "alive" and "dead" cats are in different branches of the universe that are equally real but cannot interact with each other.

Given this thought process, we can deduce that God can both exist and not exist within the universe.


Quantum physics is a very theoretical science. Everything to do with it is on the outer edges of what we think we know.

Yes, and it still never says there is a 50% chance the cat is alive and a 50% chance the cat is dead. Besides, it's still in regards to particles at the subatomic level, not whether or not something exists lola

Truth isn't stupid shit. Also, "I don't care what you say because you don't believe what I do!!!" hahahah. Most immature thing ever?

You don't believe in evolution, you're in no position to say what is or is not true

[Block]

Yes, and it still never says there is a 50% chance the cat is alive and a 50% chance the cat is dead. Besides, it's still in regards to particles at the subatomic level, not whether or not something exists lola

No it doesn't directly state, "and there's a 50/50 chance the cat is alive," which is why I explained the entire God existing / not existing simultaneously. If you can't understand that explanation, in its most simple state, I'm really not sure how else to explain. Honestly, you're like a pez dispenser... You have no concept of anything you say, you just regurgitate whatever mainstream science is going with at the moment. I haven't seen a single argument from you that actually came from you.

You don't believe in evolution, you're in no position to say what is or is not true

It seems you've only started doing this after I completely destroyed you in that last thread. Let's face it, you're not on my level. You never will be. How can you even attempt to argue with me when I'm the original? I'm the prototype that you took your entire style from, Class. From how you structure your posts, to the words that you use, to the thinly veiled sarcasm-laden narcissism bursting out of every post. Not to mention your writing style for rap... Now THAT is something to about.

[classthe_king]

Why do you have this obsession with going back to dissing my music and saying I copied from you? This is a thread about god yet you keep trying to make it about me when I've already stated multiple times that you're opinion means absolutely nothing to me. Feeling insecure much?

Also, I'm just going to stop replying to you since you can't seem to stay on topic because I actually like this thread and discussing god with other people and don't want it to get locked because of your infatuation with me.


Also, this I'm leaving with this quote by everyone's favorite scientist

“Science is the key to our future, and if you don’t believe in science, then you’re holding everybody back. And it’s fine if you as an adult want to run around pretending or claiming that you don’t believe in evolution, but if we educate a generation of people who don’t believe in science, that’s a recipe for disaster. We talk about the Internet. That comes from science. Weather forecasting. That comes from science. The main idea in all of biology is evolution. To not teach it to our young people is wrong.”

-Bill Nye

[Block]

Why do you have this obsession with going back to dissing my music and saying I copied from you?

Because debating with you is pointless. You're a fucking retard, to put it bluntly. Your beliefs don't make you intelligent or even knowledgeable. Also, laughing at the fact I created your entire persona is entertaining to me. What's even more entertaining is that everybody who was around during that time, (10-11) knows it's true.

This is a thread about god yet you keep trying to make it about me

Isn't that exactly what you've done multiple times in multiple threads with multiple different people? Why so eager to turn tail when it happens to you? Calm down, it's just a forum.

when I've already stated multiple times that you're opinion means absolutely nothing to me.

You reply almost instantaneously to my posts (even the ones not directed toward you). Begging the question to whether or not your repetitive insisting that my words are meaningless to you is actually a factual statement. I mean, to the congregation it would seem you're just backtracking as a defense mechanism.

Feeling insecure much?

Not really, no. This is a classic Block question though. Still trying to jack my style. You're relentless.

Also, I'm just going to stop replying to you since you can't seem to stay on topic

You've said this countless times. You're amazingly predictable.

because of your infatuation with me

Didn't you rely to my post? And I explicitly stated I don't want to make you look foolish again. Too late for that...


I'd like a hand job and a towel now. Thanks.

[Le Tunisien]

why nobody have replied to this argument ,look what was written in the quran





[023:012] Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay);

[023:013] Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed;
[023:014] Then We made the sperm into a leech-like substance; then of that leech-like substance We made a fetus of a chewed-like substance; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be God, the best to create.


and i will let you analyze it youself and see if you understood it.....






but here is what i say,

Indeed, god's perfect description of the shapes (leech-like and chewed-like substances), and the timings of the different stages and developments that the fetus goes through from conception to birth testify that the Noble Quran is indeed the Divine Truth and Pure and Holy Word of Allah Almighty.

As the question says "What forms in the embryo first, the muscles or the bones?", it is clear that during and after the chewed-like (mudghah) stage, both bones and muscles form adjacently. However, the wrapping of the muscles around the bones happens after the muscle precursor cells begin their development into muscle. Notice how Allah Almighty referred to the precursors' development and the wrapping of the muscles around the bones in Noble Verse 23:14 by Saying:


"then we clothed the bones with flesh."

Why did Allah Almighty specifically choose to say (then we clothed)? It is because the Noble Verse wasn't speaking about which was created first, the bones or the muscles, but rather, it was speaking about the wrapping of the muscles around the bones happens after the creation of the the bones.
yep that passage was written way back then in that era and muhammad was illeterate

[classthe_king]

why nobody have replied to this argument ,look what was written in the quran





[023:012] Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay);

[023:013] Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed;
[023:014] Then We made the sperm into a leech-like substance; then of that leech-like substance We made a fetus of a chewed-like substance; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be God, the best to create.


and i will let you analyze it youself and see if you understood it.....






but here is what i say,

Indeed, god's perfect description of the shapes (leech-like and chewed-like substances), and the timings of the different stages and developments that the fetus goes through from conception to birth testify that the Noble Quran is indeed the Divine Truth and Pure and Holy Word of Allah Almighty.

As the question says "What forms in the embryo first, the muscles or the bones?", it is clear that during and after the chewed-like (mudghah) stage, both bones and muscles form adjacently. However, the wrapping of the muscles around the bones happens after the muscle precursor cells begin their development into muscle. Notice how Allah Almighty referred to the precursors' development and the wrapping of the muscles around the bones in Noble Verse 23:14 by Saying:


"then we clothed the bones with flesh."

Why did Allah Almighty specifically choose to say (then we clothed)? It is because the Noble Verse wasn't speaking about which was created first, the bones or the muscles, but rather, it was speaking about the wrapping of the muscles around the bones happens after the creation of the the bones.
yep that passage was written way back then in that era and muhammad was illeterate

Because that argument is no different from any of the other "scientific" arguments you've tried to use. Leech like substance and chewed like substance are FAR from perfect descriptions of states and saying he clothed the bones with muscle is not some holy thing. Have you ever looked at your body? You have muscles around your bones. There is nothing groundbreaking there. It reads as if some illiterate peasant looked at a baby and tried to describe how it was made, oh wait...

[Fleka]

The problem is not the question of God`s existence. Faith is a great thing, often the only thing that makes a man or a woman fight through tough times. The problem is the way people are using God. God is becoming a brand, a bussiness. And a tool for making someones interests happen. Just remeber the Crusades. Or suicide bombers that blow up innocent people in the name of Allah. Yeah, God wants that. God has a price list for being a good beliver.