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Race/Religous culture affecting other Cultures ?

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Postby $0 R3@L » Feb 8th, '07, 00:48

don't even try to make a joke about me being racist against white people....


u do the jokes yaself... :zipped:

besides, if they were white, i personally don't think it would be a huge deal. but as i said before :zipped:



danigantt wrote:i definatley done with this debate, because you're OBVIOUSLY just too annoyed with the Muslims in your country to realize that you're thinking irrationally.


and that deep down inside, you're possibly.... :zipped: .


buh bye. i hope one of your children marries a Muslim. it would make a funny sitcom. :giggle: oh yeah. don't even try to make a joke about me being racist against white people.... my boyfriend is mixed. :laughing: you have a good day! :wave:


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ma gurl is mixed btw :wave: but why the need to prove your not racist? whos talkin about racism here....honey i didnt make the topic title im talkin religion your on a wholeeeeeeeee diff world hun. :wave:
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Postby Shads » Feb 8th, '07, 01:49

bah i didnt want to get into all this again, but some things jsut have to be said.

$0 R3@L wrote:its people such as dani why the government refuses to take action on people messing with our way of life.They get backed into the 'racists' corner when anyone with an ounce of sense would realise that religion in not a race.


well said, god forbid the goverment actually stand up for themselfs and lay the record straight of how things are going to be run. all the goverment is now is a bunch of white people over paranoid of what they might say or even want to say and too scared to do something.

Also i cant help notice that alot of this has been aimed at "just" the muslims, when infact its alot of others aswell. Such as kosavans & simolians aswell. Also, alot of people are looking at it as if we're shunning ALL Muslims. when its just the minority of them, giving them a bad name.

People like the Muslims, Kosovans, Simolians, flee there country in hope of living a better/safer life, and fleeing poverty.

Simolians are as bad as i dont see many of them "doing anything" when ever i seem them, they just have loads of kids, and the ones round were i live are very rude, racist. and viloent at times. but that just may be my area, and i cant exactly voice much of my opinion on them.

Now as bad as it is that there have been way too many illegal immigrants get into the UK, alot of them have done what they hoped to do, and that is live a better life. as i stated in a previous post, i have a row of locoal shops - an offlicence, a Groceries shop, a driving school shop, a newsagents, a car parts shop, a hairdressers, which are all run by Muslims, and then a pizza shop, and a hand car wash service ran by Kosovans. now they are some of the nicest people you could meet, friendly, helpfull, and they are doing something with there lives, making a better life for themselves and there family. which im absolutly fine with and im sure Many others are. but its the people that do nothing, living off our money, that we have to pay for with tax. doing nothing, going to court over the slightest things, disrespecting others. and worse of it all, knowing that somewerre there are actually a group of people sitting together Planning how to create a bomb and the best place/way to kill people, all because a voice in there head (thats my view as i dont believe in god and all that) are telling them its the right thing to do.

Now the hole situation of its there religeous beliefs to have to cover up there face and body with veils and gowns, in my opinion, is well, its ok to a certain extent. ie. i believe if your being question be authority, or passport situations you should have to show your face.

But for example in the paper, this women (a christian lady) happened to be working in the airport and on show, (around her neck resting on her chest) was a small cross, representing her belief or sign of christianty - was merley a small little pendent. but this was deemed too offensive for a customer (who happened to be wearing a veil and gown outfit thing for her religeous belif) but all arguements and a situation boiled because of this, yet the the women who was working there had no problem or issue with this customer.

Now thats not right, i dont care what anyone says, its not. its all about give and take to make all this work. Now we (as in the country) cant expect others to change completley to fit in with us (and i dont mean there image) they must adapt to how our country is run and we must adapt in trying to understand (to a certain extent) there views and beliefs.

The hole situtation that discussed about us (the country) having to re-name it to holiday seasons, and festive/season lights, taking down pictures of cartoon character because its a pig and muslims cant eat meat or what ever. having to cancel our nativity play because it was unfair and offensive to them

YET we have to put up with the Celebration of "Ede" & "Diwarli" with firworks going off NON-STOP till 4-5am in the fucking morning. and then some have the nerve to do fireworks during the day - whats the fucking deal wit that. but we have to put up with that because thats what there beliefs are and were cant say anything incase we offend them more. - its not on.

Once again its not ALL or Just Muslims its alot of others aswell, its just muslims are getting a bad name because of whah "Has" and "Is" going on - ie the situation of racism, and bombings and shit. if likes of kosovans, simolains, islamics, africans were doing this, they would get all this heated discussion aimed at them.

now i have written far too long as my fingers have started to go numb and i doubt hardly anyone has read the full type up of which i have done and im sure ill get critized for the small parts that they did read.

Peace,
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 8th, '07, 01:49

i made the topic title that, coz both the thngs often intwine, plus i wanted to open the debate up



and really only thing i can say is

one religion is teaching to bomb people kill innocent people, and we have to change our lives to suit a religion that tells you to kill people....be real

anyone saying its fair for us to change our lifestyle for people like that cant be serious

and on the race side of it, we cant say "black" board,

on religous side, we cant say Merry christmas

co they are politicaly incorect, coz races/religouns complain about them, we let them live here accept them and thats the thx they give us complaining bout stupid shit like that...... :zipped:
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 8th, '07, 01:52

@ shads03 - :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:
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Postby $0 R3@L » Feb 8th, '07, 02:46

btw dani....wen i sed 'scarfs' i was talking about jibas incase you didnt realise and thought i was talking about them other head scarfs that are more subtle.

these are jibas i refer to here:

the 'scarf' thing was in the news over here for about 4 months.Basically a women refused to remove the scarf in her job due to the fact there was 'male humans in the room present'....she sed it was 'her religious beliefes' ...yet the same women when attending the interview for the job sed 'its was no problem to not where the scarf in the school to be able to connect easier with the children' not to mention the fact the person who interviewed her for the job was a male and she had no issues then.

she later sued the school claiming they didnt respect her religious beliefs.

ever since muslims have recieved heat from society since 9/11 it has became fashonable to hide behind there religious beliefs and disconnect themselfs from all other people within society.

The 'scarf' is no longer worn as a religious staement but as a political one by many muslims


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thought id explain this cause i know half the time people debate about any old thing without research and knowing what they talk about :whistle:
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Postby AspirinE » Feb 8th, '07, 10:10

$0 R3@L wrote:
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thought id explain this cause i know half the time people debate about any old thing without research and knowing what they talk about :whistle:
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ugh... how, could women ever get suckered into some barbaric religious fanatism like this. I doubt any women like to wear this.. even though they might say they are OK with this. Women are made to be beautifull, what kind of religious fag invented this ninja outfit?
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Feb 8th, '07, 10:19

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$0 R3@L wrote:
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thought id explain this cause i know half the time people debate about any old thing without research and knowing what they talk about :whistle:
and :worship: @ shads03




ugh... how, could women ever get suckered into some barbaric religious fanatism like this. I doubt any women like to wear this.. even though they might say they are OK with this. Women are made to be beautifull, what kind of religious fag invented this ninja outfit?


one who never did or wants to get his hole, some homo preist probly
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Postby DjSnax » Feb 8th, '07, 21:51

i dont get his race and religion shit, we're all people... i hear about people that wont even talk to people cuz they're jewish or somethin or this racist shit thats been goin on for 5,000 years
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