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Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

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Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

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Re: Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

Postby codyp » Jun 5th, '07, 00:59

Well....
I think they should be able too, I mean if a single parent can adopt why not a gay couple?

I was raised by my lesbian mom and her partner, Come to find out that my dad was a cross dresser, and now hes a transgender (male to female). I am not too fucked. And I have never been been fucked with for those reasons, and some one would be a dumb ass too.
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Re: Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Jun 7th, '07, 01:33

Chet wrote:Yes they should be able too. The kids might get picked on a bit but who gives a fuck.

I can't believe how homophobic you guys are...well most.



you wouldnt have the same attitude if you were one fo the kids who got picked on beaten up and childhood was made a living hell because your parents were gay :y:
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Re: Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

Postby Hadez » Jun 7th, '07, 03:34

,-,'-{Bar}-',-, wrote:
Chet wrote:Yes they should be able too. The kids might get picked on a bit but who gives a fuck.

I can't believe how homophobic you guys are...well most.



you wouldnt have the same attitude if you were one fo the kids who got picked on beaten up and childhood was made a living hell because your parents were gay :y:

exactly.


@ angie. its not anything against the gays themselves. its the kid. for me at least. i dont care if gays adopt, as far as the gays go. they're people too, like u said. they deserve to have kids as well i guess. but when u take the kid into consideration, its kinda hard not to say no.
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Re: Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

Postby codyp » Jun 7th, '07, 07:17

Haha stop worrying about the kid, the times they are a changing.

I turned out fine.
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Re: Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

Postby 4D » Jun 7th, '07, 21:01

I knew this thread wouldn't go too far without the almighty sword coming out in the shape of the word "Homophobic". It's such a load of shite, I have honestly and genuinely no problem with gay people, they are grown adults, and if they wish to live their life that way, that's up to them. But, when it means bringing other peoples lives in to the equation, and affecting the people around them, then it can cause problems. And if I have an opinion about homosexual people that happens to be negative, that's just me disagreeing with them, that dosn't make me homophobic. Phobia is from the word fear, I have no fear of Homosexuals (well, unless in jail with angry mandingo homo's, lmao).

It's an opinion, and a conscious well thought out one, not based on bigotry or discrimination. I don't live in an ghetto or a huge city with horrible public schools. But, I live in a rough enough modern Irish city, and when I was growing up, you could get the shit kicked out of you for totally nothing. I would not do it myself, as I was neveer the bully type, but I have witnessed and some times experianced the hardships of being just fractionally different, like being fat, having read hair, buck teeth, wearing glasses, or just plain ugly. Those very natural and unavoidable traits that kids grow up with are enough to brgin them a daily ass-kicking. It's fucked up, and I don't endorse it, but when a group of kids are together, people will pick on the slightly less fortunate individuals in the class. I was popular in school, but I was also a big kid growing up, with broad shoulders, but a little chubby. I constantly got called names, and sometimes got physically picked on by the biggest assholes in the class.

If I had gay parents, omfg man, I dunno how I coulda got through school with that cat outta the bag. I could be dead by now from suicide or something.
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Re: Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

Postby BLAHBLAHBLAH » Jun 7th, '07, 21:39

i think that they should have every right to adopt children.. if some doped up whore can have children just to get the money from the welfare, than I think that two women/men can adopt. if they are providing a nurturing household, than I don't see what is wrong with it
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Re: Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

Postby Curtis » Jun 8th, '07, 02:42

:confusion: But what do you do in Mother's Day?
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Re: Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

Postby Hadez » Jun 8th, '07, 04:30

MavsPR41 wrote::confusion: But what do you do in Mother's Day?

the one who receives is the mother.
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Re: Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Jun 8th, '07, 18:48

4D wrote:I knew this thread wouldn't go too far without the almighty sword coming out in the shape of the word "Homophobic". It's such a load of shite, I have honestly and genuinely no problem with gay people, they are grown adults, and if they wish to live their life that way, that's up to them. But, when it means bringing other peoples lives in to the equation, and affecting the people around them, then it can cause problems. And if I have an opinion about homosexual people that happens to be negative, that's just me disagreeing with them, that dosn't make me homophobic. Phobia is from the word fear, I have no fear of Homosexuals (well, unless in jail with angry mandingo homo's, lmao).

It's an opinion, and a conscious well thought out one, not based on bigotry or discrimination. I don't live in an ghetto or a huge city with horrible public schools. But, I live in a rough enough modern Irish city, and when I was growing up, you could get the shit kicked out of you for totally nothing. I would not do it myself, as I was neveer the bully type, but I have witnessed and some times experianced the hardships of being just fractionally different, like being fat, having read hair, buck teeth, wearing glasses, or just plain ugly. Those very natural and unavoidable traits that kids grow up with are enough to brgin them a daily ass-kicking. It's fucked up, and I don't endorse it, but when a group of kids are together, people will pick on the slightly less fortunate individuals in the class. I was popular in school, but I was also a big kid growing up, with broad shoulders, but a little chubby. I constantly got called names, and sometimes got physically picked on by the biggest assholes in the class.

If I had gay parents, omfg man, I dunno how I coulda got through school with that cat outta the bag. I could be dead by now from suicide or something.


exactly man :worship: :worship:

and no offence here fordie, but you went to school a while ago and it was that bad, times it by 20, thats how it is now, there police goin around my school right now coz it got so bad, i aint in school anymore since i left at a early age but some freinds still are and its getting worse not better


@truemfan,i agree peolpe get picked on for anything, dam i used to get laughed at for liking hip hop, i never got physically bullied when i went into highschool coz the first time it happened i snapped and people learned not to, but i got not bullied but laughed at and shit for liking hip hop or coz i had a pair of air force ones..silly shit like that, now that may or may not happen to everyone the thing is if your purposely bringing someone into a life of this style, its wrong, there selfish and you canthave it both ways, being gay with it socially/naturaly wrong, and having a child.., put yourself into the kids shgoes, your sittting in your room crying your eyes out coz you get bullied coz of what your parents are..its wrong, i agree that drug addicts having children for welfare si wrong, but thats there choice that kid has been brought into a bad family through people having sex


now let me ask you this, if a drug addict whent to adobt a child, would the adoption agency let this child go into a envoiroment were the child will be less fortunate or get bullied coz there mother is a drug addict.... NO, not in a million years, so whats the difference with the gay couple and the drug addict ?
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Re: Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Jun 8th, '07, 23:04

Chet wrote:This is just like in the 60's.....When they were trying to let black kids to go to white schools. Sure they were going to get picked on and treated like shit..and I bet alot of them wished they were white, or their peoples would of never had them. But they deserved the right to go the school and gays deserved the right to have kids.

But everyone deserves to have kids. It's like saying a black family can't have a kid in the south cause the kid will get picked on.




everyone deserves to be able to have kids through intercourse

people who have had problems coz there shooting blanks ect. have the right to have kids

people who pick to be in a relasionship were pregnancy is impossible, dont deserve to have kids
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Re: Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

Postby codyp » Jun 8th, '07, 23:42

,-,'-{Bar}-',-, wrote:
Chet wrote:This is just like in the 60's.....When they were trying to let black kids to go to white schools. Sure they were going to get picked on and treated like shit..and I bet alot of them wished they were white, or their peoples would of never had them. But they deserved the right to go the school and gays deserved the right to have kids.

But everyone deserves to have kids. It's like saying a black family can't have a kid in the south cause the kid will get picked on.




everyone deserves to be able to have kids through intercourse

people who have had problems coz there shooting blanks ect. have the right to have kids

people who pick to be in a relasionship were pregnancy is impossible, dont deserve to have kids




That is the best argument I have ever heard for the no side.

What about the kids who we're conceived naturally and then the parents went gay... Like mine.
Single parents can adopt, why can't my mom just claim shes single and adopt.. Since marriage is not recognized by the state. Well I am speaking US, wise.
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Re: Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Jun 9th, '07, 02:47

so what about the women who have problems with their uterus' or men who had testicular cancer? they can't have children, because they picked that relationship?


people who have had problems coz there shooting blanks ect. have the right to have kids


you dont pick to have fucked up uterus or be shooting blanks, you pick to be gay



and you took what i said about the drug addict out of context, yeh the drug addicts fucked up badly, her resulting in being fucked up badly will have her kid fucked up badly, the gay couple may not be fucked up badly on drugs, but there kid will be fucked up badly, my point is that a drug addict envoiroment is wrong for a kid to be brought up in never mind for a kid to be adopted into. a homosexual realionship is a wrong envoiroment to be adopted into.

and change ? ive never read a bigger load of bullshit in my life :laughing: lets all change lets all be gay..oh shit look population is dropping people cant have kids oh shit were extinct, or no wait, since we are all gay and smart, birth can be a weekly thing every male goes and donates there sperm witch gets put into a lesbian women who gives the kid to a gay couple who then donate sperm to the lesbians to have kids....is that change ? a better question, is that natural ?

and love ? pshhh, bullshit,male are arttacted to females in every speices on this earth near enough, Male on Male or Female on Female is not a natural thing, it isnt "love" its people wanting dam attention..i got an example, anyone watch big brother tonight (UK tv) to gay guys went into the house and near enough the first thing one gay asked the other, are you straight or gay ? guy says gay..other guy says oh me to..people chose to be gay for attention or some dark issues they have they arent actually gay they just choose to be gay.

my final thing to say is


gay people in general, become gay then fight for gay rights, they get these rights to get married and they have the right to get kids. they chose to be something that shouldn't or couldnt have these things previously..so tell me this, would a male go into a females changing room and asked to be treated like a girl ?

coz thats what they do, the become gay and ask to be treated straight.
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Re: Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Jun 9th, '07, 02:53

codyp wrote:
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Chet wrote:This is just like in the 60's.....When they were trying to let black kids to go to white schools. Sure they were going to get picked on and treated like shit..and I bet alot of them wished they were white, or their peoples would of never had them. But they deserved the right to go the school and gays deserved the right to have kids.

But everyone deserves to have kids. It's like saying a black family can't have a kid in the south cause the kid will get picked on.




everyone deserves to be able to have kids through intercourse

people who have had problems coz there shooting blanks ect. have the right to have kids

people who pick to be in a relasionship were pregnancy is impossible, dont deserve to have kids




That is the best argument I have ever heard for the no side.

What about the kids who we're conceived naturally and then the parents went gay... Like mine.
Single parents can adopt, why can't my mom just claim shes single and adopt.. Since marriage is not recognized by the state. Well I am speaking US, wise.



well i actually know/worked with a guy who was born when his mum and dad were together, then his dad became gay, actually now coz his dad's dad died, they gay guy is my mums boss, and i suppose thats just a weird situation, i dont really know what to say about that lol

but the person claiming she is single, is well a loop hole for a lesbian couple i guess still dont think its right but cant help it if she is goin to lie
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Re: Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

Postby Hadez » Jun 9th, '07, 04:29

^^ im sorry Chet but ur friends are spoonin u bullshit. like bar said the natural order of things is opposite sex attraction. so u are born with that instinct.
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Re: Should Gay Couples Be Able To Adopt?

Postby Hadez » Jun 9th, '07, 04:40

Sarah wrote:lol, but I had a friend who use to like girls, he'd have girlfriends and shit, and now he's turned gay. Just like my mom knows a guy who's gay yet he has 3 children. So you turn gay

thats another thing, how the hell does someone go from likin the oposite sex... fucked'em n everything. then turn around and go "oh would u look at that... im gay!"
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