Comunism VS Capitalism Vol.1

[Prodeo]

capitalism or communism it both doesn't work...

the golden middleway (don't know how you say that in english)
is the best.

i'll take my own country as example:

pure economicly speaking ppl wanna make as much money as they can so that's capitalistic.

but here you have to give the half of your money you make to the government in taxes. that money is used to help the poor and other ppl with other serious probs... also regular ppl like you and me for example: 90% of a doctorvisit is paid by the state. so i consider that to be socialistic (communistic)

and pure speaking about numbers we're like the 4th best place in the whole world to live in.

so my point something in the middle is the best.

[SoniK]

they're both as wrong as each other....ther needs to be a balance

all i can say is Fuck America, fuck the UK too...i live ther but my country follows that shitty ass country america....america has the biggest debt, it imports more than any other country in the world as it has the biggest budget account defecit, and it uses all of its labour outsourced from india, china, vietnam, thialand, pakistan etc. and then it calls itself the land of the free or whateva, its the land of those who wna liv off the rest....gimme an american huz dun a hard days hustle work and i'll give u shit that can talk

[SoniK]

soz i din mean ne american workin hard, i ment the gov peeps, dont tke that the rong way i no its not th epublics fault...only a few of them.....

[Prodigy10]

tru DAT

[A Chicago Thing]

Stalin - Easily the worst human being of the past century. He manages to pass mao, hitler and pol pot in my book.

my family was 100% comunist and they lived happy as long as u stick to the rules.. its capitalism that encourages u to break them ,,,,,,,

IM not saying that comunism is 100% good
im saying its better than capitalism .. just look at the amount of corruption it brings

look, governments don't suck, people suck. There will always be corruption. Thus, I would rather live in corruption of making my own choices, than be a fuckin sheep worrying about breaking a rule.

[AspirinE]

Stalin - Easily the worst human being of the past century. He manages to pass mao, hitler and pol pot in my book.

my family was 100% comunist and they lived happy as long as u stick to the rules.. its capitalism that encourages u to break them ,,,,,,,

IM not saying that comunism is 100% good
im saying its better than capitalism .. just look at the amount of corruption it brings

look, governments don't suck, people suck. There will always be corruption. Thus, I would rather live in corruption of making my own choices, than be a fuckin sheep worrying about breaking a rule.

Nah... see u have been taught, that stalin was some kind of rutheless monster. people had all the freedome we wanted, u had a decent sallary, u didnt need to pay for food, coz it was always provided. The only things u couldnt do is talk shit about the goverment. At the times Stalin was alive, things were much better. The problem was that at some point there was a lot of corruption in the infrustructure, breaking of from comunism, only did worse, it killed milllions(one thing they prolly dont tell u in class i that at the time USSR fell theeconomy was drained, people began starving. US actually did more harm than comunists ever did).

[SoniK]

america is fulla bullshit neway, i beleive in that Jehad shit if they didn't kill innocent people....but if i saw George W Bush and his supporters burnt alive, wud i feel no remorse? he's hitler in sheep's clothing

[AspirinE]

america is fulla bullshit neway, i beleive in that Jehad shit if they didn't kill innocent people....but if i saw George W Bush and his supporters burnt alive, wud i feel no remorse? he's hitler in sheep's clothing

More like in a pigs clothing.

[Prodeo]

Stalin - Easily the worst human being of the past century. He manages to pass mao, hitler and pol pot in my book.

my family was 100% comunist and they lived happy as long as u stick to the rules.. its capitalism that encourages u to break them ,,,,,,,

IM not saying that comunism is 100% good
im saying its better than capitalism .. just look at the amount of corruption it brings

look, governments don't suck, people suck. There will always be corruption. Thus, I would rather live in corruption of making my own choices, than be a fuckin sheep worrying about breaking a rule.

hitler killed ppl based on race and destroyed europe...
mao killed more ppl then stalin...
stalin mybe killed a lot of ppl but at least he made russia a powerfull nation.

[A Chicago Thing]

hitler killed ppl based on race and destroyed europe...
mao killed more ppl then stalin...
stalin mybe killed a lot of ppl but at least he made russia a powerfull nation.

USSR

Nah... see u have been taught, that stalin was some kind of rutheless monster. people had all the freedome we wanted, u had a decent sallary, u didnt need to pay for food, coz it was always provided. The only things u couldnt do is talk shit about the goverment. At the times Stalin was alive, things were much better. The problem was that at some point there was a lot of corruption in the infrustructure, breaking of from comunism, only did worse, it killed milllions(one thing they prolly dont tell u in class i that at the time USSR fell theeconomy was drained, people began starving. US actually did more harm than comunists ever did).

He was an anti-intellectual. Rocket scientists were held in internment camps. Therefore he sucks, hard.

Okay, lets not count starvation, he sent 16 Million troops to be mowed down by the Nazi's. And then another 11 Million civilians were killed by the Nazis under his watch as well.

And the Gulags were some pretty fucked up shit. They didn't just starve, work and gas you like the Nazis did - they had fun with it.

Sorry I don't know more, commies tend to keep shit under wraps. China just admitted that had an AIDs problem how long ago?

Again - I think both suck, it's just I would rather have free will than none.

[AspirinE]

Look Im not saying that Stalin was some kind of saint.


At the time of war stalin made the troops that tried to retreat get shot.
It might seem barbaric, but at the time wen there wasnt any other ways to defeat the germans, it was a salvation.
The man gave his on son for the sake of war, earned no money from the war wat so ever, he was a true socialist.
U know that the war made the country starve not Stalin, Socialistic regieme only helped rebuild wat was destroide. And u know wat it worked, USSR was back on it feet in 20 years, and sudenly it becomes a great threat - Even though its the US that dropped the bomb on Vietnam. The cold war was nessecary, u cant really tell who was more evil at the time - both US and USSR wanted domination.
Dont be misinformed about the numbers my friend, Stalin did not kill 27 million people. There were thousands that slaughtered later- only as direct result of cold war.

I can bring up the millions that US killed during the countless war that they started as "buissness", but ofcourse them is always peacefull.

[SoniK]

i say blame canada

[AspirinE]

hitler killed ppl based on race and destroyed europe...
mao killed more ppl then stalin...
stalin mybe killed a lot of ppl but at least he made russia a powerfull nation.

Yes but, Stalins main thing was to rebuild his UNION and not invade other countries, we didnt make them join. ITs the story that they were telling back in the 80s, like we was some bloodthirsty criminals building space rockects to drop bombs on US .


God Bless JFK's sole, he was the last hope for peace and Democracy in US.
And he got shot from the FRONT( like the latest released video demonstraded) coz obviously someother people wanted to earn some money from wars in Africa and the middle east.

I aint gonna protect either one of the sides. Coz i know both were corupted as fuck. No matter how much of a beast hitler was, he has still manage to balance a soscialist idea in a way that made a profit for his country, the bad side was he used a racist believe to get into power.

He confused peoples mind with the simplest evolution facts and ideology of a HEALTHY, SMART, and AMBICIOUS person (wich doesnt mean race should be involved) I hope he rots in peaces.

[AspirinE]

Westerners claim that the USSR was bound for industrialisation which was not necessarily enhanced by Bolshevik influence. It has also been argued that Stalin was partially responsible for the initial military disasters and enormous human causalities during WWII, because Stalin eliminated many of the military officers during the purges, especially the most senior ones, and rejected the massive information warning of the German attack.

Speaking of casualties.. nobody can link casuelties for sure to Stalin.
He saved millions, by a high cost , YES (the retreaters shot law) but notbody knows how many were actually shot at the time.

Stalin was LOVED and i meany really loved. he was a born leader. And led a country only for the countries profit, and he aint taken shit for it. ofcourse those that couldnt be corrupt and capitalistic didnt like it and if they tried to be slick they paid for it. I talked many people who lived in that era and talked to my grandfather who happened to have witnessed the war and was one of those soldier who werent given a choice to retreat. EVEN HE PRAISES Stalin. Stalin didnt get rid of anyone from other countries. It was our thing, WHY THE FUCK ARE U MAD AT IT, WEN PEOPLE IN MY OWN COUNRY ARENT.

Ohh and nobody was fucking starving coz of the regime, food was given for free if u hadnt money to pay for it. Its so anoying how people are so egoistic and base opinions on hearsay.
Ofcourse in the 80 everything to do with stalin was greatly exagerated and we might not even know some of the info, they only give you the bad picture.

The numbers that suffered from comunism are probably less then the numbers that were dead from US influence. just read into the stories of the genosides in afrika. There is about as much prove that it was US that influenced and sponcered the wars there.



Ohh and god bless Stalins soul.
He is the reason our country reads more books than any other, literature was given great importance, art was no longer materialistic ( u got wat u deserved for your achievement and for status), movies that were made werent made to be money collectors, but a means of expression and social importance, we were the best at sport, we were in space first, and we still are one of the most technologically advanced nation.

Ever since USSR fell we had corrupt oficials take over, material values for everything changed, and Mcdonalds is now there to fullfill our everyday cholesterol needs for more money than wat this cholesterol is worth.






Stalin: "The leader and teacher of mankind in the fight for freedom, democracy and socialism"

[WestCoast_G]

All Stalin wanted was power.. I mean sure he did help the economy back up and everything but he did it by using Propaganda and Indoctrination to corrupt people minds with fear.. He didn't let people practice their own religion, they were prosecuted if they did, people were censored for individual creativity, he killed anyone who he tought was a threat to his new found power which he got because of the death of Lenin He started the Great Purge which basically the same thing where he terrorized people and killed thme.. He sent people to Gulags.. He killed his one police force if they didn't bring in enough "criminals"... In total he probably killed around 8-13 million people. The man was fucken insane