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Re: September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 13th, '08, 21:17

sticcy z wrote:and emady...They closed the Kurt Cobain case on the same day they found him and never re-opened the case...
did the goverment kill him too?

:whistle: :whistle:

because his shit obiosly wasnt a suicide


By the way you realize that you're being willfully ignorant right? By not informing yourself on both sides you're willfully accepting what you're told, and the ignorance you have from it will only hurt you.
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Re: September 11th

Postby <Stiiccy> » Sep 13th, '08, 21:24

Emadyville wrote:
sticcy z wrote:No people like me and Chet don't jump to a conclusion that is very shady and can't be proven
When the mother fucker who ordered the attacks(osama) admits the shit why the hell would we have any reason to believe that hes lieing?
why the fuck would a man put a bounty on his head?
I don't understand why you would be that fucked up in the head that you think that America ordered an attack on itself just to war with another country...
Ive done plenty of research, and all I see is a bunch of hippie ass people jumping to bullshit rumors
There is no way you can prove that america attacked itself...
there is however more proof that those arab cocksuckers came over here jacked our shit and killed almost 3,000 of us...
Why place the blame on the goverment...and the motives don't make sence...

either way we never know who truly ordered the attacks...but they are one fucked up peice of shit human being



Well from what you just said I think that you just want it to be that way because you have a hatred for non-American's. Watch the video, Osama denied the attacks btw, he was happy we were attacked, but he never took credit for it. Just watch it, I think you're scared. And did I not say that I have researched it for two years, two years, I didn't just jump to a conclusion. I came to a conclusion after looking at both sides, like Chet posted, I've seen it, read Popular Mechanic article too. And from this I realized that unless you look at both sides you will only believe what you read.

Edit: You want motive, look up The Project For The New American Century. See what their motives are and where they rank in the government.

dude why the hell are you jumping to conclusions,,,yeah i understand you researched it...i have researched it also and i think that for you thinking that america attacked itself is horrible
what about the hijackers?
is it just a coincidence that they were arab?
why dont you read the debunking of 9/11
that makes more sence than anything else ive read or whatched
the motives make no sence
there losing money by the war
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Re: September 11th

Postby <Stiiccy> » Sep 13th, '08, 21:26

Emadyville wrote:
sticcy z wrote:and emady...They closed the Kurt Cobain case on the same day they found him and never re-opened the case...
did the goverment kill him too?

:whistle: :whistle:

because his shit obiosly wasnt a suicide


By the way you realize that you're being willfully ignorant right? By not informing yourself on both sides you're willfully accepting what you're told, and the ignorance you have from it will only hurt you.

you want me to believe that america killed almost 3,000 of its own people?
go fuckin find the person who ordered the attack
go find physical evidence that the goverment ordered the attack
then we can talk
until then your being a fucking hippie asshole, that no one will listen to
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Re: September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 13th, '08, 21:35

sticcy z wrote:
Emadyville wrote:
sticcy z wrote:No people like me and Chet don't jump to a conclusion that is very shady and can't be proven
When the mother fucker who ordered the attacks(osama) admits the shit why the hell would we have any reason to believe that hes lieing?
why the fuck would a man put a bounty on his head?
I don't understand why you would be that fucked up in the head that you think that America ordered an attack on itself just to war with another country...
Ive done plenty of research, and all I see is a bunch of hippie ass people jumping to bullshit rumors
There is no way you can prove that america attacked itself...
there is however more proof that those arab cocksuckers came over here jacked our shit and killed almost 3,000 of us...
Why place the blame on the goverment...and the motives don't make sence...

either way we never know who truly ordered the attacks...but they are one fucked up peice of shit human being



Well from what you just said I think that you just want it to be that way because you have a hatred for non-American's. Watch the video, Osama denied the attacks btw, he was happy we were attacked, but he never took credit for it. Just watch it, I think you're scared. And did I not say that I have researched it for two years, two years, I didn't just jump to a conclusion. I came to a conclusion after looking at both sides, like Chet posted, I've seen it, read Popular Mechanic article too. And from this I realized that unless you look at both sides you will only believe what you read.

Edit: You want motive, look up The Project For The New American Century. See what their motives are and where they rank in the government.

dude why the hell are you jumping to conclusions,,,yeah i understand you researched it...i have researched it also and i think that for you thinking that america attacked itself is horrible
what about the hijackers?
is it just a coincidence that they were arab?
why dont you read the debunking of 9/11
that makes more sence than anything else ive read or whatched
the motives make no sence
there losing money by the war


Did you watch the loose change video? There is testimony in superior courts in this video where gov't officials ask other gov't officials about the lies. There is a claim by the man who grounded all the planes that day where he says the plane going into washington dc that hit the pentagon, a young man came in to tell vp dick cheney when the plane was 50 miles out, when it was 30 miles out, and when it was 10 miles out he asked cheney do the orders still stand, and cheney "whipped his neck around and said: 'of course they still stand, did you hear anything to the contrary?' " What else could that be but a stand down order? These are some of the highest government officials speaking out, these are the firefighters and policemen that were there saying there were bombs in the building, these are scientists and doctors who are saying that the towers could only have fell the way they did, or at all for that matter, with the help of explosions. There was molten steel in the rubble that did not cool until december, why is this. They have multiple sources of proof including a thermal image from a satelite showing where the molten steel was. How did all of the cement in those buildings get crushed to dust? I would think explosives would be a great explanation. They show video live from BBC on that day where they had reports building 7 had collapsed, when in the background of the news the building is still standing. There is just too much stuff man, I'm telling you, after seeing all of these credible sources come out with this information I don't see how you could think they are all wrong or all lying. If a doctor prescribes you medication, do you not take it? Of course, because he is a professional and knows what he's talking about. Just watch it and pay attention, I know you know that I'm not some crazy guy just talking out of my ass.

Edit: seriously bro, just do it for yourself.
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Re: September 11th

Postby <Stiiccy> » Sep 13th, '08, 21:45

Did you watch the loose change video? There is testimony in superior courts in this video where gov't officials ask other gov't officials about the lies. There is a claim by the man who grounded all the planes that day where he says the plane going into washington dc that hit the pentagon, a young man came in to tell vp dick cheney when the plane was 50 miles out, when it was 30 miles out, and when it was 10 miles out he asked cheney do the orders still stand, and cheney "whipped his neck around and said: 'of course they still stand, did you hear anything to the contrary?' " What else could that be but a stand down order? These are some of the highest government officials speaking out, these are the firefighters and policemen that were there saying there were bombs in the building, these are scientists and doctors who are saying that the towers could only have fell the way they did, or at all for that matter, with the help of explosions. There was molten steel in the rubble that did not cool until december, why is this. They have multiple sources of proof including a thermal image from a satelite showing where the molten steel was. How did all of the cement in those buildings get crushed to dust? I would think explosives would be a great explanation. They show video live from BBC on that day where they had reports building 7 had collapsed, when in the background of the news the building is still standing. There is just too much stuff man, I'm telling you, after seeing all of these credible sources come out with this information I don't see how you could think they are all wrong or all lying. If a doctor prescribes you medication, do you not take it? Of course, because he is a professional and knows what he's talking about. Just watch it and pay attention, I know you know that I'm not some crazy guy just talking out of my ass.

Edit: seriously bro, just do it for yourself
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Im whatching it now
and the buildings fell because of the unprotected steel
building have fell because of fires before (just wanted to point that out)
in fact one building i forget the name but it fell without the help of a fucking 747 hitting it
and of course people are going to claim shit dude...In todays world people make things up just for publisity
i will post again when i get finished whatching the video
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Re: September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 13th, '08, 21:46

Thank you, just pay attention, there is a shitload of info. I'm going to work but we'll discuss it tonight or tomo. I appreciate you opening up, I really respect that. Peace
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Re: September 11th

Postby <Stiiccy> » Sep 13th, '08, 23:13

After whatching Loose Change I have came to the conclusion that I just whatched pure and utter bullshit...All the information provided was either hear say or lies
for example the first tower dropped in 16 seconds, the second fell in 22 seconds...
the video said 10 seconds
I am however changing my opinion I can not make a plausible conclusion on who exactly was responcible for 9/11...It was not the United States goverment...The finger points towards the arab terrorist..BUT It can't be proven who ordered the attacks...
This arguement will never be won by either side, because there is no evidence that either side can point to, to prove that there right...
I can however say that all the hijackers were arab...Apparently that doesnt say anything to you fucking hippies...
But I will give you this you made me less set on blaming 1 paticular person on who ordered the attacks
BUT I will not rule out the possibility of someone on the inside being apart of it
that very well may be true
but i can't prove it
niether can you
the bottom line is whoever did this shit needs to pay
nearly 3,000 people lost there lives that day...It was very well one of the most freighting days of my life...
I can only point to one qoute made by Osama Bin Laden
and I quote
"you are the worst civilization witnessed by the history of mankind: You are the nation who, rather than ruling by the Shariah of Allah in its Constitution and Laws, choose to invent your own laws as you will and desire. You separate religion from your policies, contradicting the pure nature which affirms Absolute Authority to the Lord and your Creator."

That is obiously someone who doesnt like us very much
But as an American I will say this
If another mother fucker wants to kill anymore of our people on our soil...Bring it the fuck on
cuzz i swear I will join the fucking army and kill every person i see in your little faggot ass God awful country...
Fuck you
america
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Re: September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 14th, '08, 05:31

I would normally have some long comebacks and facts and whatnot, but I just got laid so I care nothing about what you believe, lets just agree to disagree :b:
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Re: September 11th

Postby <Stiiccy> » Sep 14th, '08, 05:39

Emadyville wrote:I would normally have some long comebacks and facts and whatnot, but I just got laid so I care nothing about what you believe, lets just agree to disagree :b:

Well actually I am curious at why you think America alone attacked itself
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Re: September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 14th, '08, 05:40

sticcy z wrote:
Emadyville wrote:I would normally have some long comebacks and facts and whatnot, but I just got laid so I care nothing about what you believe, lets just agree to disagree :b:

Well actually I am curious at why you think America alone attacked itself


O ok, sorry I was on little high there.

You got aim this could be easier than doing this? I'll send you my sn.
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Re: September 11th

Postby Tash8 » Sep 14th, '08, 05:42

i'm 100% positive the U.S. had at least known what was occurring, but the extinct of the involvement is what's being debated.
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Re: September 11th

Postby <Stiiccy> » Sep 14th, '08, 05:44

Tash8 wrote:i'm 100% positive the U.S. had at least known what was occurring, but the extinct of the involvement is what's being debated.

what is your proof
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Re: September 11th

Postby Tash8 » Sep 14th, '08, 05:47

sticcy z wrote:
Tash8 wrote:i'm 100% positive the U.S. had at least known what was occurring, but the extinct of the involvement is what's being debated.

what is your proof


the fact that the government tried to cover up everything is enough of proof to say they were in part of it... plus all those conspiracy videos, facts enough.
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Re: September 11th

Postby <Stiiccy> » Sep 14th, '08, 05:49

Tash8 wrote:
sticcy z wrote:
Tash8 wrote:i'm 100% positive the U.S. had at least known what was occurring, but the extinct of the involvement is what's being debated.

what is your proof


the fact that the government tried to cover up everything is enough of proof to say they were in part of it... plus all those conspiracy videos, facts enough.

sorry not enough
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Re: September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 14th, '08, 05:52

I think the loose change video was beyond enough proof to believe something was wrong with what they say happened.
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