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Postby AspirinE » Nov 17th, '05, 22:41

topdawgizalaw wrote:listen alright, first off , khow the hell would he get in the future if it hasnt happened yet. secondly, he said he cannot prevent A PERSONS DEATH via probability like natural disaster, because it would have a negative effect on his conscience. how the hell would it. and lastly, there will be a 2006 olympics, about a year from now in the winter, in turino, where the hell that is i dont know, but theyre doing it there. secondly, why cant he say the name of a famous celebrity/porn star. exactly , because he's fake. i just wasted my time for no apparent reason. this is bullshit, he probably got this shit from world news weekly, which is a magazine i seen at stores with a bunch of crap in it that sells for two dollars only because there is a hot girl in it. i would never buy one.


all points are argualble ... he does give a great example with the perlharbour thing..

and those olympic games still have a chance of not happening
who knows wat conflict might start

and wat does celebrity porn name proof .. he doesnt know everything

he gave u so much about other stuff and its definately more solid proof
than the proof that people bring against him


I dont necceserally believe him .. but im a type of person who considers things possible and is always open to exept new evidence towards or against
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Postby Coccoa » Nov 17th, '05, 22:41

No prob at all.

On the olympics thang. I really dont see a reason why they wont do winter olympics next year.
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 17th, '05, 22:43

Em_Young wrote:No prob at all.

On the olympics thang. I really dont see a reason why they wont do winter olympics next year.


i guess if they dont happen this would be enough proof


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Postby Coccoa » Nov 17th, '05, 22:47

Most of the things happening is 99% coincidence. Or 100% coincidence. The day i will actually believe that guy will be too late cuz everything he said will be true (theoretically speaking) and even then, i will still have second thoughts.

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Postby BlaqReaper » Nov 18th, '05, 02:07

This is very interesting indeed. In the next 30 years there will be WW3, and a new government system established (at least in America). Wow...and now I'm wondering why there won't be an Olympics after 2004 (Guess we'll have to see).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor Looking him up here, he claims that there will be a Civil War in America in 2005. Looks like there will be 1 more month before one of his predictions prove to be false.


There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005. That conflict flares up and down for 10 years.
Real disruptions in world events begin with the destabilization of the West as a result of degrading US foreign policy and consistency. This becomes apparent around 2004 as civil unrest develops near the next presidential election.
The civil war in the United States will start in 2004. I would describe it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse. The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012 and end in 2015 with a very short WWIII.
The President or "leader" in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights.


Furthur proof he may be proved false

Titor claimed that his time travel device utilized 6 caesium based atomic clocks, which are accurate to 1 part in 1015. However, on May 23, 2005, researchers in Japan announced the creation of a new atomic clock using strontium atoms trapped in an optical lattice, which is accurate to 1 part in 1018. Titor says that to minimize "worldline divergence" the most accurate atomic clock are preferred, which is hard to reconcile with the use of now "obsolete" caesium-clock technology. This may be the first anachronism that undermines the credibility of the Titor story, although the actual precision of the clocks in the C204 (and C206) are not specified, and may exceed both of these in accuracy. (A research program capable of developing time travel might have superior time-keeping technology, and Titor says that his caesium clocks are actively corrected.)


Anyways I really can't say if he really is a time traveler or not, since I can't prove it. But I sure hope hes not :(.

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i aint believed they could invent transparance material(if covered with makes object trasntrant...) wich happened earlier this year ... i think i even made a topic here about this
Aspirine can you find a link to this for me?! I haven't heard about this.[/quote]
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 18th, '05, 17:55

about the Link ... i dont remember were and google cant help me find that shit

but i made a topic here somewere ... maybe some of u ppl saw it
Yoshi maybe remembers it :unsure:

but if ever i stumble upon it again ill post a link
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Postby Tomega » Nov 18th, '05, 18:00

the predictions are not convincing me, otherwise i would believe it
if he really came out the futures he could say the exact dates...
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 18th, '05, 18:13

Tomega wrote:the predictions are not convincing me, otherwise i would believe it
if he really came out the futures he could say the exact dates...


he named a lot of exact dates he avoided some dates though ....
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Postby SkylZ » Nov 18th, '05, 18:53

Well, I can tell you for sure that all the stories about traveling through time are sci-fi 'cuz now it's impossible. Today's physics has no proven theories about the nature of "time", so no one can make a machine to travel back in time 'cuz we don't even know what "time" is. As for Theory Of Relativity it definitely was one of the greatest revolutions in people's mind and most of its prediction have been proved experimentally. But still this theory is classic which means that it doesn't contain quantum effects so the exotic phenomenon it predicts are probably the products of its imperfection. And I really doubt that scince can go a long way from creatin and developin new theories to buildin a 'time machine' in 31 years
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 18th, '05, 19:00

SkylZ wrote:But still this theory is classic which means that it doesn't contain quantum effects so the exotic phenomenons it predicts are probably the products of its imperfection.


Wish I could Undestand wat u ment LOL


But i definately agree that to this day its not Possible
But U know how it is.... its hard to predict how much progress will speed up

anything can be possible ... even things that seem improbable
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Postby SkylZ » Nov 18th, '05, 19:39

As for quantum effects it's not that complicated :)

The Theory Of Relativity claims that mass distorts geometry of space like a massive ball would press in a soft mattress and that's the reason for gravity. It's like planets move straight but the Sun crooks the space so they go round, but the geometry of distorted space is still smooth. But quantum mechanics shows that it's not true. When you look at a cloth it seems smooth but if you look closely you'll see it's made of small strings, fiber and empty space. The reason why The Theory Of Relativity works is that it's used to describe very large objects like planet orbits, star systems and so on, and on such global scale space-time is really smooth. But it can't describe exotic objects like black holes, so all the theories based on it are too questionable.

And if in future they got such technologies why wouldn't they prevent the cataclysms and the nuke war, send the whole army back to do it, you know.. :D :D
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Postby yoshi » Nov 18th, '05, 20:21

ASPIRINE wrote:Yoshi maybe remembers it :unsure:

what should Yoshi remember? :p

i was talking with my friends during lunch (yeah, we don't have anything else to do :D) about John Titor, and we finally concluded it's impossible, cause you cannot build such accelerator which would be able to give the molecule enough speed , that it could do a timetravel, cause there isn't so much free space on the Earth :p <how smart, isn't it? :happy: >
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 18th, '05, 20:22

yoshi wrote:
ASPIRINE wrote:Yoshi maybe remembers it :unsure:

what should Yoshi remember? :p

i was talking with my friends during lunch (yeah, we don't have anything else to do :D) about John Titor, and we finally concluded it's impossible, cause you cannot build such accelerator which would be able to give the molecule speed so big, that it could do a timetravel, cause there isn't so much free space on the Earth :p <how smart, isn't it? :happy: >



well did u read the part were titor writes about miniature black holes?
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Postby yoshi » Nov 18th, '05, 20:33

well, yeah, i've read it :p

but it still doesn't make me believe in this whole story. but i don't say it's fake too. :p
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Postby AspirinE » Nov 18th, '05, 20:41

yoshi wrote:well, yeah, i've read it :p

but it still doesn't make me believe in this whole story. but i don't say it's fake too. :p


LOL im 90% sure its fake ... the predictions freaked me out though

Titor is either a Time Traveler(10%) or A an extremely smart person(90%)
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