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Obama = Worst president choice.

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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby JMG » Oct 20th, '08, 06:42

Obama's the Antichrist to right?
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby <Stiiccy> » Oct 20th, '08, 06:44

seh you are an idiot...

just because i dont like obama all of sudden im a racist?
you do relize the son of a bitch is half white right?

fuck you
fuck obama
and fuck america...(im movin to canada if that crazy mother fucker gets elected)
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby seh » Oct 20th, '08, 07:01

"Sticcy Z - once one said, its better burn out then it is to fade away,
then why do i look at death as a way to escape"

go ahead and escape. kill yourself ya sticcy piece of shit.
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby <Stiiccy> » Oct 20th, '08, 07:06

seh wrote:"Sticcy Z - once one said, its better burn out then it is to fade away,
then why do i look at death as a way to escape"

go ahead and escape. kill yourself ya sticcy piece of shit.

ive been thinkin about it for a while...
i mean damn atleast then i can see how many people give a fuck about me...
it be a great experiment...
and then maybe i could be a legend or some shit...
so thanks for the idea but ive been wanting to for years now...
i mean whats the point of dealing with this stupid bullshit on earth?
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby JMG » Oct 20th, '08, 07:11

the american people are stupid, so whoever wins is gonna be a bad choice no matter what.
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby <Stiiccy> » Oct 20th, '08, 07:30

Chet wrote:
XXStiiCCyXX wrote:
seh wrote:"Sticcy Z - once one said, its better burn out then it is to fade away,
then why do i look at death as a way to escape"

go ahead and escape. kill yourself ya sticcy piece of shit.

ive been thinkin about it for a while...
i mean damn atleast then i can see how many people give a fuck about me...
it be a great experiment...
and then maybe i could be a legend or some shit...
so thanks for the idea but ive been wanting to for years now...
i mean whats the point of dealing with this stupid bullshit on earth?

I would care :'(

i know baby ill be ok ;)
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby BlaqReaper » Oct 20th, '08, 07:54

McMaybe wrote:Everything you are about to read is 100% true and proven. Please consider this before voting for Obama.


I was watching the news this morning, when I heard the Obama Health Care plans. He intends on making a socialist healthcare plan. For those of you who don't know what that is, I'll put it in to lamens terms: A Socialist medical plan is where healthcare is prioritized by severity and funding. So if part A has more money, Party B has to wait before they can see a doctor. Now, severity.... sounds nice right? Sickest people get treated first no? Wrong. Now, if your tooth hurts, you can't see a dentist until people before you have, and that can take weeks, months or even years according to Canada's situation. Of course the Rich won't be effected, because you can always pay full price for your treatment...

If that isn't enough to turn you off of Obama and his so called changes, let me go on:




Obama outlines his ambitious geopolitical plans in a recent essay for Foreign Affairs magazine. Foreign Affairs is published by the Council on ForeignRelations, which describes itself as a non-partisan group of which he is a member. Established in the 1920's and headquartered in New York, its membership includes prominent politicians and business elite, including heads of academia and media. The organization seeks to centralize both political power and market power to craft legislation outside the checks and balances of democracy.

The CFR is rarely mentioned by the mainstream media... Obama is also a 32nd degree Prince Hall Freemason loyal to the Craft and devoted to his principles so forget about the "changes" and start thinking about the same old , same old , coming once again into power.

Obama is illuminati aristocracy. his appearance from 'nowhere', and subsequent rocket to the front of the political line are no coincidence. Believe it or not, Barack Obama is related to both President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney as you can check here: http://www.nypost.com/seven/10172007/ne ... cheney.htm


This sounds like a conspiracy theory to me, I'm sorry. I'm not going to argue with you about the more Socialistic Healthcare System because that's a personal taste. But like others said before me, Obama wants to bring healthcare to everyone, not just whoever can afford it right now. As for his CFR associations. If it is true at all, then let me get this straight: he wrote an essay for a magazine owned by a group who claimed he was a member? And you're freaking out because of this? It was a long time ago buddy and I'd love to see a more concrete evindence than your claim. That's like saying Benzino coming out and saying "Hey I made Eminem and we're pals because I had him featured in the Source a long time ago" and you believing that Eminem is an asshole because he was in a magazine owned by a douchebag.

Lastly, who cares if Obama is 10th cousins once removed from Bush? Does that make him Bush? No, not at all. In fact, George Bush Senior, was a decent president, he wasn't horrible like W. and he was his father! Relations have nothing to do with being president.

Lastly I support Obama because McCain and Palin are only worse. Even Colin Powell recently decided to support Obama. Sure Obama doesn't have much experience...but Palin lacks intelligence. I mean have you seen her interviews? Her response to what specific magazines/newspapers she reads is "All of them" and her experience in foreign relations is being able "to see Russia from Alaska". She is only one bad heartbeat from becoming the next President of the US.

Lastly, I know you don't want people talking about McCain/Palin, but how can you not when it's the alternative to Obama, but I'm ashamed at the attacks the Republicans have been doing towards Obama. Our country needs unity at a time like this, not fear and hate-mongering. Calling Obama a terrorist, and having your own part-members say 'Kill him' at a rally is completely despicable. Also, it makes me shameful that Republicans are attacking him for maybe being Muslim. First he's a Christian and always has been. Who cares what his parents believed in and what they filled out on his school reports? Obama himself has been a Christian and never followed Islam. But more importantly, Colin Powel said it best: Who even cares if Obama is Muslim? It's not against the law for a Muslim to rule the U.S.. Are we afraid just because he may be Muslim he's a terrorist too and drive America into the dumps? That is what I'm ashamed of: ignorant people believing the Republican attack ads saying Obama is a Muslim, he may have terrorist associations, he can't be the president. I'm not Muslim, but I have religious tolerance and can you imagine what impressions the Republican party are giving the Muslim children and their fellow friends in the world? In a time of crisis, we're not supposed to distrust and turn against one another, but to unite and push our way through it. The Republicans have lost my faith this election and that's why I'd go for Obama anytime.

By the way, you know who else was inexperienced had a different religion in term of being president: John F. Kennedy (he is the only Roman Catholic that has been president).
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby <VerbalTouch> » Oct 20th, '08, 08:05

fuck obama that nig.ger fuck mccain that white piece of shit now which racists am i?
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby JMG » Oct 20th, '08, 08:56

I heard he's gonna get shot and announced dead by the press,then there gonna be like never mind.
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby Xray » Oct 20th, '08, 13:22

fuck america there i said it lol the debate section should be accessible only for americans, cause its mostly the americans that bitch :whistle:
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby Sophie » Oct 20th, '08, 13:31

^^ because unless you're american or follow politics or the debates, people from other countries, like me, don't understand what's going on :'( rofl.
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby Xray » Oct 20th, '08, 13:37

Sophie wrote:^^ because unless you're american or follow politics or the debates, people from other countries, like me, don't understand what's going on :'( rofl.

not only that, its because americans LOVE talking about politics. american nazis are what they are from politics. its all political shit for the americans no disrespect to any of yous cause you know im just saying whats on my mind and i have no intention to insult
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby BlaqReaper » Oct 20th, '08, 20:08

McMaybe wrote:The last president that tried to go against the CFR ended up almost getting assassinated, until he straightened himself out to their requests. It's all in the history books.


Oh, and to that uneducated retard seh: The yale secret society and CFR appointed Obama as president, and support his campaign.


You morons can continue to doubt the truth, it's not a conspiracy theory, there is proof that all these groups exist and operate the government. Bush also being a part of the Yale group admitted that it is so secretive, he cannot reveal more than saying that it's so secretive in an interview on live TV. The problem is, half of you are just simple minded fucks who instead of investigating what I say, and counter with intelligence, you argue over the specifics you DO not know. I wanted to vote for Obama until a preacher I spoke to gave me some information, which I doubted... I researched and found newspaper articles, news reports, photos, and other evidence that everything he said was true.

I don't get in to the whole anti Christ shit, all I know is that Obama will destroy the United States by bringing the New World Order into command, that is what they began doing when Democrats were elected in to congress, now he's going to finish the job. You guys can argue till your fingers get carpel tunnel, it would change the truth. OBAMA IS PRO SOCIALIST, AND THAT IS NOT THE CHANGE WE NEED.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it would be nice if you provided proof from all the things you researched from. I made did a quick google search and looked up both CFW and Skull and Bones, but couldn't find Obama being a member in either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on ... _Relations (It's wikipedia I know, but who cares it's accurate enough). It doesn't list Obama, but ironically it does say John McCain and Hilary Clinton are members. And so is Angelina Jolie: just wanted to throw that one out there :D.

As for Skull and Bones, I don't see how Obama can be associated at all? He went to Columbia and then to Harvard (Yale's rival), so how can the Yale secret society get to him at all? I was reading you had to be a Yale junior before the group chose you to join their "secret" society- which sounds like a frat but more emo and secretive by the way (they meet in a place called the "Tomb" :whistle: ).

Lastly, I don't see how any of his member affiliations make Obama pro-socialist (Bush isn't socialist and he was a member of both right?). The only reason Obama is socialistic is because the Republicans like to scare the masses and make the Democrats seem to be the next communist dictators or something. I mean yes, it's true that the Democrats tend to follow a more socialistic view than Republicans, but that's only because Democrats care about the middle/low class while the Republicans want to make the rich richer and hope all that money will somehow trickle down to us poor people (good theory, but it hasn't been working :P). To the Republicans, Obama is basically taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor (I'm not talking about dirt poor, just the middle-class and not the business oweners). If that's what you think socialism is, then I guess it makes me a socialist and I'm fine with it. Also, it's not like once he's President he has the ultimate power you know? He can't turn this nation into a communist country. He's only got four years and both Congress and Supreme Court are there to keep him in check.

That being said, I'm not the type of person who's scared/hates socialism/communism (I'm a Chinese American, but I am Chinese). Lastly, look at China. It's being predicted as a rising superpower (although I do admit there are a lot of things I find wrong with it- like it's environmental standards), while the U.S. is losing favor in the whole world's eyes. I've actually visited China and I can tell you some benefits of Communism. The gas is pretty stable (it's all distributed by the government), going to the hospital is cheap (and available because I've gotten sick on vacation and have gone to hospitals there), etc., etc. Of course all the censorship and suppression cancel out all the benefits, but I'm just trying to say, the medical situation isn't as big a disaster as you would imagine.
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby JMG » Oct 20th, '08, 22:00

Mccain's in The John Birch Society, a semi-secret elitist and racist good ole boy organization on the far right of the political spectrum.
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Re: Obama = Worst president choice.

Postby The GameKeeper » Oct 21st, '08, 19:55

The Illuminati runs everything... they have infiltrated our government, our military, our media, Hollywood, etc., etc., etc... It doesnt fucking matter who gets elected... their plan will go into effect whether its McCain or Obama... I have done tons of research on the CFR, Trilatteral Comm., Bilderbergers, Skull and Bones, etc. Obama is NOT a member of the CFR, he was invited to ONE meeting. Cheney is a member of the CFR... not Obama.

Obama will make this a socialist society??? What the hell it is now??? The government buying all the bad debt and bailing out these crooks on Wall Street is as socialistic as it gets.

John McCain will start WW3 if he is elected by attacking Iran. If we attack them, they shut off the Straight of Hormuz(70% of the worlds oil supply goes through their), leading to $10.00/gallon gas prices. McCain will be Bush part 2, x's 2...

Ill take my chances on Obama. Nothing can be as bad as the past 8 years were, unless McCain is elected. McCain said he would bomb Iran. Obama isnt the messiah by any means, he is just the lesser of the two evils.

You can find just as much dirt on McCain as you can find on Obama...

No matter who is elected, our rights our going to be stripped regardless... this isnt the America it was 2-5-10 years ago... we have not seen the worst of what is to come. No one has a miracle cure.

They all have their plans and talk a good game... about 10% of what they say during their campaign actually comes into fruition. Just because they have plan for healthcare, it doesnt mean it is set in stone???

Like I said, it doesnt matter who gets elected. The powers that be have a plan, and whoever is in office will do what they are told. The President is merely a puppet... I would just rather have an Obama puppet than a McCain puppet.
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