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EminemBase vs. Blu - God

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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby CrashBand » Oct 31st, '12, 00:21

It's very open-minded and brave of him if it's true.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Eedee » Oct 31st, '12, 01:20

classthe_king wrote:
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classthe_king wrote:Le Tuna has just informed me that he is now agnostic and not following any holy book


Really?


I have trouble believing it myself but yes


Interesting. He should come into this thread and talk about it. :y:
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Doodlebug » Oct 31st, '12, 19:43

I was once a punk kid, the kind that most were afraid of - actually terrified of. I looked... for people to give me a reason to beat the snot out of them.... and not anyone mind you - because I have some measure of honor, but.. bullies... The bigger and meaner they were, the better for me - because I had someone I could vent on... pretend it was them I was angry at, but it was actually the world I hated.

I was walking that fine line - and I knew it. I was in a situation where 3 bigger guys came after me, and my being a girl you can guess why. I broke the first guys arm behind his back as he lunged at me, and quickly broke the others nose with my other hand as he rushed forward... the third ran and I commenced to beat these two so badly one ended up in the hospital. Me, a tiny little dark haired girl taking on 3 guys much bigger and older. How? Hatred and rage fueled me... that and my days were spent running, climbing trees and trying to get up and away from.. everything.

An older lady ran into me one day - she handed me a bible - I actualy still own. I must of been barely 15 and now am 50.

She was calm, serene - and I trusted no one - ever. She had a calm about her, and it lured me in. I got on the bus, most kids cringed when I walked past them to sit. I still wore shorts under my dress (borrowed from my sister) and had my hair down (usually wore in a baseball cap).

We were there early so I went looking around and into the big church, and went up to the front. The peace I felt - was peace I felt for the first time in my life. I'd never felt so .. safe.

I can't prove there is a God, but I only know that believing .. some other - loved and cared for me, no matter what - even if was bad at times.

I know how it made me feel - this stone cold child that was due to live a short hard life. It gave me something to hang on to - just knowing how believing made me.. feel inside....

The proof to me is in my heart...


I wrote this a few years ago...

If it is a dream.... then let me live there always...
for there is where I am happy, fullfulled and hopeful.

Do not take this delight from me...
do not darken my mood.


Let me ...
believe there is a tomorrow past today and on...

Let me..
feel someone loves me..for me.


I have nothing ... but my spirit...
which takes me on and forward

I have nothing but that hope....
which give me the will to go on.

You who doubt
how are you really better

You live for no real reason except to exist

I exist for the reason to live on
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Eedee » Oct 31st, '12, 19:56

^ That's all well and good, but feel-good stories still aren't proof; stop appealing to emotion.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Oct 31st, '12, 19:58

You're a 50 year old lady posting on Trshady? lolokay
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby AbramIsaac » Oct 31st, '12, 22:49

Eedee wrote:^ That's all well and good, but feel-good stories still aren't proof; stop appealing to emotion.

She's not saying it's proof, unless I missed something.

She's just adding her experience.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Eedee » Nov 1st, '12, 00:05

AbramIsaac wrote:
Eedee wrote:^ That's all well and good, but feel-good stories still aren't proof; stop appealing to emotion.

She's not saying it's proof, unless I missed something.

She's just adding her experience.


She said, "The proof to me is in my heart..."

Which is a load of bullshit.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby CrashBand » Nov 1st, '12, 01:24

Menzo wrote:Are you gonna tell her that her reasons for believing in God aren't good enough for you? Lol.

In an argument for god's existence....

...pretty much.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby CrashBand » Nov 1st, '12, 01:32

It's not good enough evidence to bring to the table though.

It'd then be sufficient evidence to believe in literally anything.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Nov 1st, '12, 01:34

Menzo wrote:
CrashBand wrote:
Menzo wrote:Are you gonna tell her that her reasons for believing in God aren't good enough for you? Lol.

In an argument for god's existence....

...pretty much.


Not really. If I told you my reasons for believing in God, I'm not saying it's definite. If I say, "the proof to me is _____", I'm not saying it's definite. It's just me speaking about myself and my beliefs. Just like if someone tells me their reasons for not believing, I'll accept it.

You guys are like starved sharks going wild over a single chicken wing :coffee:


If someone says their reasons for believing in god is X, and X isn't enough to convince you that god exists then by logic their reasons for believing in god aren't good enough for you. No?
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby CrashBand » Nov 1st, '12, 01:36

Menzo wrote:Yeah but who gives a fuck what the person beside you believes lmao.

Contingent on that belief not harming anyone, yes.

But I think someone should 'give a fuck' if the person next to you believes that black people are demons and that we should get rid of them.

If they aren't acting on anything, then that's a lot better.

But still--irrational thinking and blind faith are inherently bad. They are the root of why people do bad things for 'good reasons'.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Nov 1st, '12, 01:45

Menzo wrote:
classthe_king wrote:If someone says their reasons for believing in god is X, and X isn't enough to convince you that god exists then by logic their reasons for believing in god aren't good enough for you. No?


But someone's own reasoning pertaining to their faith isn't intended to convince you in the first place :unsure:


I thought that was the point of this thread. I couldn't give a shit though, I don't believe a thing she said.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Nov 1st, '12, 01:49

Menzo wrote:Yeah, it is lol. But in her particular case, it wasn't. She's told that story more than once, dunno if it's true or not but I'm not gonna question it. Don't think anyone would be damned to make up a story like that and tell it more than once lol.


I think someone making up that story is more likely than a 50 year old woman who went Bruce Lee on 3 guys at the same time posting on Trshady.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Alex2012 » Nov 2nd, '12, 19:06

classthe_king wrote:You're a 50 year old lady posting on Trshady? lolokay


if she's funny and relevant that's all cool no matter the age of members if they don't act like "i know better than you because i'm older" blah blah...
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Guess_Who » Nov 2nd, '12, 19:28

I agree with Alex, I like to talk to people of all ages, Eminem is 40 now, wouldn't you like to talk to him? I would like to have more people here in their late 20's and why not older.

The "I'm better than you because I'm older" well, current me is better than 14 years old me. Why? Just because obviously I have more experience and experience is a plus.
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