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Re: September 11th

Postby Tash8 » Sep 14th, '08, 06:14

sticcy z wrote:sorry not enough


not enough for you, enough for me to believe that the U.S. government had something to do with it.. and in season 5 of 24 they show how shit like that is possible ... ( i know it's a fictional show, but it has some truth in it)
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Re: September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 14th, '08, 06:15

Tash8 wrote:
sticcy z wrote:sorry not enough


not enough for you, enough for me to believe that the U.S. government had something to do with it.. and in season 5 of 24 they show how shit like that is possible ... ( i know it's a fictional show, but it has some truth in it)


I hear you Tash. We should talk about this idk where sticcy went
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Re: September 11th

Postby <Stiiccy> » Sep 14th, '08, 08:26

Tash8 wrote:
sticcy z wrote:sorry not enough


not enough for you, enough for me to believe that the U.S. government had something to do with it.. and in season 5 of 24 they show how shit like that is possible ... ( i know it's a fictional show, but it has some truth in it)

I wouldnt rule it out BUT and you and emady know that IF the U.S. had involvement that they werent the only goverement involved
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Re: September 11th

Postby notoriouS-K-M » Sep 14th, '08, 13:46

sticcy z wrote:
Tash8 wrote:
sticcy z wrote:sorry not enough


not enough for you, enough for me to believe that the U.S. government had something to do with it.. and in season 5 of 24 they show how shit like that is possible ... ( i know it's a fictional show, but it has some truth in it)

I wouldnt rule it out BUT and you and emady know that IF the U.S. had involvement that they werent the only goverement involved

This isn't about governments.........back in the day when USSR invaded Afghanistan, the US hired scholars (Muslim scholars) to distort verses from the Quran and use them in brainwashing a younger, more vulnerable generation of muslims in order to create the mujahideen (what the US officials back then called freedom fighters). These "freedom fighters" were then trained in military tactics by Israeli Troops in Pakistan. Then they were supplied weapons by the US to go and fight and eradicate the communist "Devils" and "infidels". These same "freedom fighters" are now known as the Taliban or more commonly as terrorists. After the disintegration of the USSR both the US and Pakistani governments uptil 2001 made sure that the Taliban instead of the Northern Alliance remained the dominant force in Afghanistan. Now during all this time there were different governments in the US but the policy on Afghanistan remained the same.

And let me just add that the Taliban are just a group of mostly ignorant militants who don't know shit except firing a gun. They wouldn't have had the brains to have carried out such an operation. Now Al Qaeda on the other hand consisted of well educated, wealthy people who had at some point in their lives worked for the US. They could have planned such an attack but wouldn't have been able to carry it out without the financial aid of large corporations like Enron and the help of US intelligence agencies (and don't tell me the intelligence agencies couldn't have done such a thing. They have been known to carry out a lot of "unimaginable" acts.)
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Re: September 11th

Postby Urban Punk » Sep 14th, '08, 13:55

I do believe it was an inside job just based on the fact that it would be a mockery to the power of U.S and there military to believe people could pull that off what out the F.B.I or C.I.A known anything about it. Here are some really strange facts...

1) New York City has 11 letters

2) Afghanistan has 11 letters.

3) Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened to destroy the Twin

Towers in 1993) has 11 letters.

4) George W Bush has 11 letters.

This could be a mere coincidence, but this gets more interesting:

1) New York is the 11th state.

2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight

number 11.

3) Flight 11 was carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11

4) Flight 77 which also hit Twin Towers, was carrying 65 passengers.

6+5 = 11

5) The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11 as it is now known. 9 +

1+ 1 = 11

6) The date is equal to the US emergency services telephone number

911.

9 + 1 + 1 = 11.

Sheer coincidence..?! Read on and make up your own mind:

1) The total number of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was

254. 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

2) September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year.

Again 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

3) The Madrid bombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 11.

4) The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers

incident.

Now this is where things get totally eerie:

The most recognised symbol for the US, after the Stars & Stripes,

is the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the

Islamic holy book:

"For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome

Eagle. he wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of

Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still

more rejoiced: for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of

Allah and there was peace."

That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran.

Still uncovinced about all of this..?! Try this and see how you

feel afterwards, it made my hair stand on end:

Open Microsoft Word and do the following:

1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first

plane to hit one of the Twin Towers.

2. Highlight the Q33 NY.

3. Change the font size to 48.

4. Change the actual font to the WINGDINGS
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Re: September 11th

Postby °[~CHR!$~]° » Sep 14th, '08, 14:12

Urban Punk wrote:
Open Microsoft Word and do the following:

1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first

plane to hit one of the Twin Towers.

2. Highlight the Q33 NY.

3. Change the font size to 48.

4. Change the actual font to the WINGDINGS
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oh fuck this is scary :o intense shit :o
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Re: September 11th

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Sep 14th, '08, 14:14

Urban Punk wrote:I do believe it was an inside job just based on the fact that it would be a mockery to the power of U.S and there military to believe people could pull that off what out the F.B.I or C.I.A known anything about it. Here are some really strange facts...

1) New York City has 11 letters

2) Afghanistan has 11 letters.

3) Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened to destroy the Twin

Towers in 1993) has 11 letters.

4) George W Bush has 11 letters.

This could be a mere coincidence, but this gets more interesting:

1) New York is the 11th state.

2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight

number 11.

3) Flight 11 was carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11

4) Flight 77 which also hit Twin Towers, was carrying 65 passengers.

6+5 = 11

5) The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11 as it is now known. 9 +

1+ 1 = 11

6) The date is equal to the US emergency services telephone number

911.

9 + 1 + 1 = 11.

Sheer coincidence..?! Read on and make up your own mind:

1) The total number of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was

254. 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

2) September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year.

Again 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

3) The Madrid bombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 11.

4) The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers

incident.

Now this is where things get totally eerie:

The most recognised symbol for the US, after the Stars & Stripes,

is the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the

Islamic holy book:

"For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome

Eagle. he wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of

Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still

more rejoiced: for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of

Allah and there was peace."

That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran.

Still uncovinced about all of this..?! Try this and see how you

feel afterwards, it made my hair stand on end:

Open Microsoft Word and do the following:

1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first

plane to hit one of the Twin Towers.

2. Highlight the Q33 NY.

3. Change the font size to 48.

4. Change the actual font to the WINGDINGS
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if you look for something youll find it ^ all that shit is just bullshit concidence that people look for, like the film 23 its just bullshit.
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Re: September 11th

Postby °[~CHR!$~]° » Sep 14th, '08, 14:19

true dat...but the microsoft word thing is really strange...like REALLY REALLY :o
i mean some points are might be not true but Microsoft Word thing is o.0
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Re: September 11th

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Sep 14th, '08, 14:25

°[~CHR!$~]° wrote:true dat...but the microsoft word thing is really strange...like REALLY REALLY :o
i mean some points are might be not true but Microsoft Word thing is o.0



i aint checked it but i can guess its planes goin into a tower or something ?


either way i doubt terrorists planned everything so there plan would show up on microsoft word ? ya know


its just weird coincidence's for someone to use that shit in a debate like this is silly


like franz ferdinand (you should know who he is chris) well his death started world war 1. and world war 1 ended on the 28 June 1919, you wanne know what franze ferdinands license plate was in the car he was in when he got shot to start world war 1 ? 2861919 and if you sperate the numbers 26/6/1919 < the date it ended.


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Re: September 11th

Postby °[~CHR!$~]° » Sep 14th, '08, 15:27

yeah im not sayin it has to be true..but scary/freaky....like sarah said :y:
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Re: September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 14th, '08, 16:07

°[~CHR!$~]° wrote:yeah im not sayin it has to be true..but scary/freaky....like sarah said :y:


YEah ha but that thing is crazy. The question is who looks that shit up.
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Re: September 11th

Postby SajN » Sep 14th, '08, 16:33

Urban Punk wrote:Now this is where things get totally eerie:

The most recognised symbol for the US, after the Stars & Stripes,

is the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the

Islamic holy book:

"For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome

Eagle. he wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of

Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still

more rejoiced: for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of

Allah and there was peace."

That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran.



Aight .. That one is NOT TRUE AT ALL!
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Re: September 11th

Postby Robbie G » Sep 14th, '08, 17:23

Whats not true about what he said?

That would have been freaky if it was true. :smoking:
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Re: September 11th

Postby <Stiiccy> » Sep 14th, '08, 22:38

And let me just add that the Taliban are just a group of mostly ignorant militants who don't know shit except firing a gun. They wouldn't have had the brains to have carried out such an operation. Now Al Qaeda on the other hand consisted of well educated, wealthy people who had at some point in their lives worked for the US. They could have planned such an attack but wouldn't have been able to carry it out without the financial aid of large corporations like Enron and the help of US intelligence agencies (and don't tell me the intelligence agencies couldn't have done such a thing. They have been known to carry out a lot of "unimaginable" acts.)

any human is posible of anything
what you are sayin is not only racist, but is ignoret...
your living in a fantasy land...you pay attention to shit that is stupid and all of your points have been proven wrong
and if your so fucking pissed about the goverment not releaseing all the 9/11 information..think about it..when has the united states ever released alot of information about anything?
fuck man there still holding info about aliens and shit
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Re: September 11th

Postby Emadyville » Sep 14th, '08, 23:00

And let me just add that the Taliban are just a group of mostly ignorant militants who don't know shit except firing a gun. They wouldn't have had the brains to have carried out such an operation. Now Al Qaeda on the other hand consisted of well educated, wealthy people who had at some point in their lives worked for the US. They could have planned such an attack but wouldn't have been able to carry it out without the financial aid of large corporations like Enron and the help of US intelligence agencies (and don't tell me the intelligence agencies couldn't have done such a thing. They have been known to carry out a lot of "unimaginable" acts.)


They are ignorant the same way American's are ignorant to other cultures and countries. If you are raised how they are raised you know nothing else then what you are told. Not to mention the religion they believe in, that all factors into who they are and why they are, whether it's wrong or not (we think it's wrong and they think it's right), you cannot change someone who knows nothing but what they have been told their entire lives. They don't live in "free" countries, not that we necessarily do after 9/11, but I hope you all understood my point.
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