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Postby Fi.J. » Jan 31st, '06, 17:55

look you want a world of peace but you are not tolerant yourself.I don't put at question your opinion but you should have respect of other ppl thoughts.just that.
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Postby AspirinE » Jan 31st, '06, 17:59

Fi.J. wrote:look you want a world of peace but you are not tolerant yourself.I don't put at question your opinion but you should have respect of other ppl thoughts.just that.


IM tolerant enough ...

if u dont want to debate just say so..
but dont call me disrespectfull coz i said wat made sense to me..
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Postby Fi.J. » Jan 31st, '06, 18:01

you said that you're disrespectful..and it's not that I don't wanna debate,it's that what you saud made me angry "the best show man"..wtf
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Postby AspirinE » Jan 31st, '06, 18:06

Fi.J. wrote:you said that you're disrespectful..and it's not that I don't wanna debate,it's that what you saud made me angry "the best show man"..wtf


well if considering that god is not true is jesus is but that...
and this jesus is responsible for quite a lot of deaths caused by church influence and and religion wars.
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Postby misa » Jan 31st, '06, 18:11

AspirinE wrote:
Fi.J. wrote:you said that you're disrespectful..and it's not that I don't wanna debate,it's that what you saud made me angry "the best show man"..wtf


well if considering that god is not true is jesus is but that...
and this jesus is responsible for quite a lot of deaths caused by church influence and and religion wars.


how can he be responsible it aint his fault that ppl r so dumb to transfer a suuposley peaceful msg as religion to a war issue
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Postby AspirinE » Jan 31st, '06, 18:50

misa wrote:
AspirinE wrote:
Fi.J. wrote:you said that you're disrespectful..and it's not that I don't wanna debate,it's that what you saud made me angry "the best show man"..wtf


well if considering that god is not true is jesus is but that...
and this jesus is responsible for quite a lot of deaths caused by church influence and and religion wars.


how can he be responsible it aint his fault that ppl r so dumb to transfer a suuposley peaceful msg as religion to a war issue



the bible aint peacefull, its all written in metaphors, people can interpret it in ways they think is right.

its a hope but at the same time an excuse.
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Postby Curious » Jan 31st, '06, 19:29

damn, now you all made me break my principle on never commenting on a commercial - ah well, it's not really the first post in this thread i'm commenting on so never mind...

i'm not religious, i don't believe in God or any other transcendental creatures for that matter, but being non-religious is a belief as well, not proven fact.
Asp, you cannot prove that God doesn't exist, nobody knows for sure, you can prove that he didn't create the universe and stuff like that through science and you can dispute the Bible on several points, but there is no solid proof that God doesn't exist, just as nobody can prove that he does.
In some ways he does exist, since he serves a vital function for some ppl, the need for meaning and comfort - to me and you he doesn't, but still u gotta respect that he does to a lot of ppl (and I know u do respect that, but that doesn't really come across in your posts...)

Saying that Jesus was a con artist is pretty disrespectful to other ppl - what you can say based on historical research is that Jesus was a real historic person who was an itinerant preacher, there were scores of them in Palestine at that time, and it's highly questionable whether he actually considered himself as the son of God, and actually he didn't want to create a new religion, he just wanted to reform Judaism. That ppl still believe in Jesus and God today is because science hasn't explained everything yet - maybe we will solve the mysteries of the universe one day, maybe we won't, but as long as there's unsolved questions, religion has a place in the world.
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Postby Curious » Jan 31st, '06, 19:50

g_killa wrote: thats wat i was sayin ............... just in teapot style


LOL :D n u were actually doing a much better job getting ur message across than i was
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Postby AspirinE » Jan 31st, '06, 19:58

Disrespectfull how?


If god does not exist ... (u do allow me to believe so dont you) .. the jesus is a con artist ( a great liar )

Im simply stating my opinion when im saying that.
"Disrespectfulll"- .... *(^$#(^ :angry: lol


You guys just disrespected MY opinion.


I say we take to Jerry Springer... :shifty:
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Postby misa » Jan 31st, '06, 20:21

AspirinE wrote:
misa wrote:
AspirinE wrote:
Fi.J. wrote:you said that you're disrespectful..and it's not that I don't wanna debate,it's that what you saud made me angry "the best show man"..wtf


well if considering that god is not true is jesus is but that...
and this jesus is responsible for quite a lot of deaths caused by church influence and and religion wars.


how can he be responsible it aint his fault that ppl r so dumb to transfer a suuposley peaceful msg as religion to a war issue



the bible aint peacefull, its all written in metaphors, people can interpret it in ways they think is right.

its a hope but at the same time an excuse.


i didnt read it i donnu , but u cant say he is responsible for some ppl who interpret it in a way that it wasnt meant to be in
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Postby Curious » Jan 31st, '06, 20:51

AspirinE wrote: If god does not exist ... (u do allow me to believe so dont you) .. the jesus is a con artist ( a great liar )


Well, as I said I don't believe in God either, so it would be kinda weird for me to say u have to belive in him :D :D
but since it's questionable that Jesus actually thought of himself as the son of God, and since we don't actually know what Jesus actually preached and what the Evangelists have "invented" I think it's harsh to call Jesus a con artist - he probably believed in what he preached, so even if he was wrong that wouldn't make him a liar, if u lie u do it intentionally
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Postby AspirinE » Jan 31st, '06, 23:11

Sarah wrote:Asp you read the bible? :unsure: To be honest I could never be bothered with that :whistle:

And theres more of a way to proove the bible wrong then to proove it right. I have a friend at my school who said he kept asking the religious teachers all these questions and shit (he doesn't believe in God) and they couldn't answer them. He asked like "How could the sun start spinning backwards in the other direction?" (or sumin like that) and she just shrugged. So it couldn't be answered, but in science it can...


I read the bible and i passed exams and wrote like a trillion debates about religion in highschool.

The bible is the worlds most boring book for real..
I tried to get a version wich had more understandable english language, but still its confusing.
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Postby Fi.J. » Feb 1st, '06, 16:33

Curious wrote:damn, now you all made me break my principle on never commenting on a commercial - ah well, it's not really the first post in this thread i'm commenting on so never mind...

i'm not religious, i don't believe in God or any other transcendental creatures for that matter, but being non-religious is a belief as well, not proven fact.
Asp, you cannot prove that God doesn't exist, nobody knows for sure, you can prove that he didn't create the universe and stuff like that through science and you can dispute the Bible on several points, but there is no solid proof that God doesn't exist, just as nobody can prove that he does.
In some ways he does exist, since he serves a vital function for some ppl, the need for meaning and comfort - to me and you he doesn't, but still u gotta respect that he does to a lot of ppl (and I know u do respect that, but that doesn't really come across in your posts...)

Saying that Jesus was a con artist is pretty disrespectful to other ppl - what you can say based on historical research is that Jesus was a real historic person who was an itinerant preacher, there were scores of them in Palestine at that time, and it's highly questionable whether he actually considered himself as the son of God, and actually he didn't want to create a new religion, he just wanted to reform Judaism. That ppl still believe in Jesus and God today is because science hasn't explained everything yet - maybe we will solve the mysteries of the universe one day, maybe we won't, but as long as there's unsolved questions, religion has a place in the world.


finally someone defendin me and agreein with me!!
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Postby hot_dogg » Mar 3rd, '06, 06:19

stop saying bad things about me :D
R.I.P. Big Proof

Look, if you had one shot, or one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted, one moment...
Would you capture it, or just let it slip?
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Postby dantespyke » Mar 4th, '06, 07:49

Religion is nessacary and did the weirdo who posted this eva come back?
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