Hitting Women

[DelinQuent]

nah yo, she hits like a man, i honestly wanted to kill her lmfao

[James R.]

Lmao I feel you. I've been punched by girls that hit as hard as I do. Like heavy handed bitches that weren't small either and I threw their ass in a full nelson up against a wall and had to talk them down.

[James R.]

For the record I'm not condoning domestic violence..

yeah you are

You know what I can't even take this shit *shakes you*

[gladimnotsoluble]

Yes. If women want to be accepted as equals they should face the same consequences. If a man cheats, he may get slapped. Same applies to a women. It's only justified.

I think this is a really interesting point.

Women want equality, yet they want chivalry..You can't have both though. Chivalry implies a higher standing.

[bom-bom]

Yes. If women want to be accepted as equals they should face the same consequences. If a man cheats, he may get slapped. Same applies to a women. It's only justified.

I think this is a really interesting point.

Women want equality, yet they want chivalry..You can't have both though. Chivalry implies a higher standing.

we want equality, yes, but its not fair, men are stronger than us, if we were the same then we would accept it, but we are not, so it ends up not being equal

[DelinQuent]

so you finally admit that men are above women lmfao.

equality isnt about physical strength.

thats like, i steal from a grocery store, i get punched by the owner, he's a small dude, doesnt bother me. BUT if i go to steal from another grocery store and the owner is a powerlifter, i may think twice.

so if you, as a female, knowing that your significant other is much stronger than you, want to be treated equally you should expect to be hit back if you hit him. otherwise you're contradicting yourself in asking for equality.

[James R.]

we want equality, yes, but its not fair, men are stronger than us, if we were the same then we would accept it, but we are not, so it ends up not being equal

So let me ask you the following questions

Is it wrong for a larger man to beat up a smaller man who punched him in the face first?

Why is it so difficult to, since women apparently KNOW they're weaker than me, NOT put your hands on a man?

Does a man not have the right to defend himself?

If women can't handle a fight that THEY start then why should they be allowed in the military or to be police officers in the field? Those are FAR more dangerous situations that some men can't even handle. So why should a weak, feeble woman be allowed to even consider those if she can't be held to face the consequences of her violent actions?

[yoshi]

Yes, we want equality, but damn, why are you desperately trying to prove that equality is about being able to hit a woman? Usually, woman will just slap you and that's it. Or if she gets really mad, she can like scratch you with fingernails (I despise this way rofl) and that's it. If a guy punches her, she'll bounce off the wall, leave a bloody stain and most likely get a concussion.

It's easier for a guy just to grab the woman by her arm and wait for her to calm down. And don't tell me "what if the guy's really small" - most of the guys are much larger than women, and even it they're not, they're still stronger, unless we talk about some total anemic pussies.

Woman can be pregnant and beating her up may end up in miscarriage or damage to the baby. You never know unless the belly is big and round. And if a guy gets crazy, it's hard to stop him. Just look what Chris Brown did to Rhianna, he beat the shit out of her.

Let's face it, how many times did you hear about domestic violence against men? 1,2 times? And how many women got beaten up by their husbands? You guys act like equality meant being knocked out by your husband...

Why is it so difficult to, since women apparently KNOW they're weaker than me, NOT put your hands on a man?

With all the respect I got for you James, why it is so difficult, since the men KNOW they're stronger than women, just grab her arm instead of beating her up?

Does a man not have the right to defend himself?

Defending yourself doesn't mean knocking out the woman.

If women can't handle a fight that THEY start then why should they be allowed in the military or to be police officers in the field? Those are FAR more dangerous situations that some men can't even handle.

Why shouldn't they? You just said some men can't handle the situations either, so maybe none of us should be allowed to join the military.

Is it wrong for a larger man to beat up a smaller man who punched him in the face first?

Men are men. Ever since the beginning of the human race, men would always go fighting and hunting, trying to get the best female. Why would I care about 2 guys fighting? It's been always like that, with the testosterone level reaching the sky. But damn, hitting a woman, who's naturally weaker than a man, who carries his baby, it's just pathetic for me. And trying to justify it by saying "it's equality" is stupid and makes no sense.

[James R.]

I'm not saying that people have a right to hit anyone. I'm just trying to figure out WHY it's ok for women to scratch, slap, punch, kick, and assault men because they can't control their anger, but a man is completely wrong is he responds in the same way. I'm not saying women's equality is them getting beat up, I'm just saying that women's equality is being held the fuck accountable for your actions. Being treated the same by the law.

If a girl beats a man up and he goes to the police he's painted out to be less than a man because he couldn't defend himself from an attacking woman. And not only that, she isn't her case is treated like a joke. And this happens more that "1 or 2 times." It happens FAR more than people know or would even like to acknowledge because men choose pride over their assaulter having nothing happen to them. And no I'm not talking about scrawny little punk ass guys. Normal sized, grown ass men that get beaten up by their significant others because they don't hit back because it's wrong.

Where is the justice? Just because women are smaller and "weaker" they're above the law? They're above fair treatment? So if it's so easy for men to just grab the woman and restrain her, again I must ask: WHY is it so hard for a woman to keep her fucking hands to herself? Unless along with being stronger men are also more in control, more intelligent, and more respectful to other people as a whole because that's what I'm left to assume if no one can answer this question.

And Chris Brown didn't beat the shit out of her. I've seen people look worse after being hit with an air bag in a minor car accident. He punched her yeah, maybe even more than once, they probably got into a fight. I don't think what happened was right, but until I know a full story I can't assume that this is entirely his fault and that he came out of this unscathed.

[DelinQuent]

i completely agree with james on this.

As i said before "thats like, i steal from a grocery store, i get punched by the owner, he's a small dude, doesnt bother me. BUT if i go to steal from another grocery store and the owner is a powerlifter, i may think twice.

so if you, as a female, knowing that your significant other is much stronger than you, want to be treated equally you should expect to be hit back if you hit him. otherwise you're contradicting yourself in asking for equality."

so basically you want equality, but then you expect to be able to hit me and not get hit back?

if you as a woman, hit another woman, you would expect to be hit back. that is not equality.

[shadylujie@gmail.com]

the attitudes toward women should be different in different places...we should never hit them but swear them

[bom-bom]

Is it wrong for a larger man to beat up a smaller man who punched him in the face first?

its not wrong, guys always get into fights, i think its very different a fight btw 2 man and a fight btw a woman and a man,men dont mind getting into a fight , in fact sometimes u look for it, cuz just for the minimun detail u would punkch a man in a face, just beacuse he looked ur girl or he told u something u didnt like
i have seen fights btw women and we fight about the same but we try to avoid fighting, its known that u guys try to prove ur superiority and fighting is the best way to prove it

Why is it so difficult to, since women apparently KNOW they're weaker than me, NOT put your hands on a man?

because sometimes u get our last nerves with ur attitude, emotions are very difficult to control, and i know that a woman can cheat in a man, and the guy can get angry and slap her i the face, the same a woman would do, im just saying that obiously the man should control his strengh and if he hits her try to not brake his nose, manke her lip bleeding and nose bleeding cuz a woman wouldnt do that.
U guys need to understan that we are weaker, of course we would like being as strong as u are, then we wouldnt mind cuz if u broke my nose i would punch u in the face and break urs, but we CANT, whta can we do if we are weaker by nature? we dont like it but we have to face it, the same u guys will have to face than in some years women will control the world

Does a man not have the right to defend himself?

He can defend himself but he should control himself too

If women can't handle a fight that THEY start then why should they be allowed in the military or to be police officers in the field?

why do u think that women always start a fight?
those situations are different cuz in those cases women are prepared to make their jobs, they know perfectly how to defend theirself and whta can they do if a man assaults her

I think violonce its wrong either if its btw 2 men, 2 girls or a man and a woman
Its true that sometimes we cant controld our feeling and we can hit someone, but we should avoid it, i dont defend the type of gilr who always slap a man just because he said soemthing worng, cuz if the man let her do that and he doesnt defend himself she will get used to it, and it would be an abuse.
Women should slap men just when they cant control and they shouldnt think "oh im weaker than him so he wont hit me, or oh if he hits me ill call the police so he loses" thats not right and thats not fair for men, but at the same time a man shouldnt use his superiority (strengh) to hit women and they shouldnt take it out on them, cuz women will lose just because we are weaker by nature

[yoshi]

Fist of all, some of you guys have views so god damn bias it's ridiculous.

What else would you expect in a discussion about a male-female issue?

Equality is measure by whatever you stand to be equal in.

First of all, 'equality' term is an abstract term because there is no equality, really. Even in profession like mine, women are able to carry max 25 kg, men - 35 kg. In that case, either you or we should protest it, since it's not equal - why would you carry more than we since we both applied for the job? Or we should protest, because we want to be treated equally. It's not fair, is it?
Personally, I don't care. I'm not going to carry a scales with me to check every patient's weight. But because of this rule and also other issues (like pregnancy) most of the employers will not employ me, even though I might be better than 90% of the male candidates.

You say women should never be hit by a man because they are weaker? In that case, if you as a women know you are weaker, don't hit a man, because you should know that he is stronger than you in the first place. An eye for an eye didn't have a manual explaining whether or not it applies to women...

I'd really love to see you guys holding back your emotions in a row. Always thinking rationally, right? Why punching her back btw? Just kill the damn bitch, she won't hit you no more.

And women were nothing but baby making cooks in the biblical days.

Thank god we live in the XXI century.

Now, if you want to consider yourself equal, be equal. Don't consider yourself a level above or below us because you decided to measure equality by the physical strength of a person. Don't punch a man, you won't get punched. If your boyfriend cheats on you, and you hit him, it's justified... The SAME should apply, because emotionally men and women are both hurt the same. No reason the rules shouldn't apply to everyone.

I'm not considering myself above or below you. I'm just wondering why are you so desperately trying to prove that a girl can do as much damage to a man, as a man can do to her. She hit you? Believe me, for me worst humiliating would be if the guy just turned around and walked back with his head up instead of punching me in the face.

I also never said it's right for a woman to hit a man in the first place, so the term 'biased' doesn't apply.

[yoshi]

the attitudes toward women should be different in different places...we should never hit them but swear them

How about I curse you out right now, huh?

[James R.]

its not wrong, guys always get into fights, i think its very different a fight btw 2 man and a fight btw a woman and a man,men dont mind getting into a fight , in fact sometimes u look for it, cuz just for the minimun detail u would punkch a man in a face, just beacuse he looked ur girl or he told u something u didnt like
i have seen fights btw women and we fight about the same but we try to avoid fighting, its known that u guys try to prove ur superiority and fighting is the best way to prove it

Wtf? Have you ever seen TV? Women fight ALL the time. Men fight more often with other men sure, but don't try to paint women out to be these peace loving saints that avoid violence at all costs

because sometimes u get our last nerves with ur attitude, emotions are very difficult to control, and i know that a woman can cheat in a man, and the guy can get angry and slap her i the face, the same a woman would do, im just saying that obiously the man should control his strengh and if he hits her try to not brake his nose, manke her lip bleeding and nose bleeding cuz a woman wouldnt do that.
U guys need to understan that we are weaker, of course we would like being as strong as u are, then we wouldnt mind cuz if u broke my nose i would punch u in the face and break urs, but we CANT, whta can we do if we are weaker by nature? we dont like it but we have to face it, the same u guys will have to face than in some years women will control the world

Ok so you're saying that sometimes emotions run high and women make mistakes. I agree with that. But in that high emotional setting is it not unfair to crucify a man that reacts the wrong way when confronted in such a manner? Don't make the mistake of thinking I'm trying to justify women beaters because I'm not, but it's RIDICULOUS that women can fly off the handle and the person their flying off at is expected to keep their composure like nothing's going on. Should they? Yes. But is it unreasonable if they don't? No.

He can defend himself but he should control himself too

Just like women should control themselves and take their own advice "walk away" or something.

why do u think that women always start a fight?
those situations are different cuz in those cases women are prepared to make their jobs, they know perfectly how to defend theirself and whta can they do if a man assaults her

I don't think women always start the fight. This entire argument is about IF she does start the fight WHY is it wrong for a man to retaliate and so far the only thing I've heard is "because women are weak, feeble, and completely unable to defend themselves against the superior power that is man" which is interesting to me. Every single female stereotype has been reinforced in this thread yet and still people are talking like there's no water to they male side of the argument.

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I agree. Violence is wrong no matter who it is. And the people who use violence as an answer should be held accountable for their actions and the results of said actions. If a person finds out their significant other is cheating and they hit them once ok that's understandable. But while there's no reason to unload on a woman there's no reason to unload on a man. If you're "weaker by nature" then you natural flight response should kick in in that situation. You don't see kittens attacking lions do you? No. Why? Because they know they'll lose that fight. You don't see me spitting on Mike Tyson do you? No. Why? Because A.) You can't see America from Spain and B.) Because I know he'd beat my fucking ass.

So if men are being held to these rules about self control then women should be as well. And if they're not then that's just admitting that women are physically, emotionally, and intellectually lesser than men. Period. If you're TRULY our equals then follow the same rules. Don't put your hands on a man and IF you do then expect to get hit back. Fucking 7 year olds can kill their parents in retaliation to abuse. You're telling me a woman can't break a nose? Fuck that. I've seen a 5'3" girl break a 6' man's nose in one blow. Don't feed me illogical bull shit please. It tastes as bad as it sounds.