classthe_king wrote:Le Tunisien wrote:@class: dude, im telling you back in that time someone like the prophet muhammad could not find that out alone and say whats said on the quran cuz he was illeterate if you know it...the quran was a message from god to his messenger...whats on the quran was found to be valid ..many scientific proofs...that even scientists have said that no one back in that era could find them..
well if you have enough time watch this video and watch all the parts to 8/8
and you will be impressed i believe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwHrOox5AbU
I don't know enough about the Quran at this point to dispute you off the top of my head but I find it highly unlikely that Muhammad was spewing amazing science that was way ahead of his time. And can you actually post reliable sources and stop with these youtube videos
exactly man , Muhammad was spewing amazing science that was way ahead of his time ..there is no way he could find them out by himself in that era, plus he was illeterate...dude there are so many proofs go and watch those videos..they are reliable cuz they speak according to what came in the quran, i'll give you a very simple example,how the two oceans meet but don't mix while having salt and fresh water..without mixing..mohammed talked about back in that era..of course that message was delievered by god and then written in the quran...there is no way muhammad knew about it back in that era..ill give you more details,
first of all here is the picture of the two seas:
soo, Modern Science has discovered that in the places where two different seas meet, there is a barrier between them. This barrier divides the two seas so that each sea has its own temperature, salinity, and density.
(Principles of Oceanography - Davis, pp. 92-93)
For example, Mediterranean sea water is warm, saline and less dense, compared to Atlantic ocean water. When Mediterranean sea water enters the Atlantic over the Gibraltar sill, it moves several hundred kilometers into the Atlantic at a depth of about 1,000 meters with its own warm, saline and less dense characteristics. The Mediterranean water stabilizes at this depth (Principles of Oceanography p. 93).
The Mediterranean sea water as it enters the Atlantic over the Gibraltar sill with its own warm, saline and less dense characteristics, because of the barrier that distinguishes between them. Temperatures are in degrees Celsius (C).
Even in depths (indicated here by darker colors) up to 1,400 meters and at distances ranging from a minus -100 to +2,500 meters, we find that both bodies of water maintain their individual temperatures and salinity.
Although there are large waves, strong currents, and tides in these seas, they do not mix or transgress this barrier.
The Holy Qur'an mentioned that there is a barrier between two seas that meet and that they do not transgress. God said:
{He has let free the two seas meeting to gather. There is a barrier between them. They do not transgress.} (Qur'an 55:19-20) But when the Qur'an speaks about the divider between fresh and salt water, it mentions the existence of "a forbidding partition" with the barrier. God said in the Qur'an:
{He is the one who has let free the two bodies of flowing water, one sweet and palatable, and the other salty and bitter. And He has made between them a barrier and a forbidding partition.} (Qur'an 25:53) One may ask, why did the Qur'an mention the partition when speaking about the divider between fresh and salt water, but did not mention it when speaking about the divider between the two seas?
Modern science has discovered that in estuaries, where fresh (sweet) and salt water meet, the situation is somewhat different from what is found in places where two seas meet. It has been discovered that what distinguishes fresh water from salt water in estuaries is a "pycnocline zone with a marked density discontinuity separating the two layers." (Oceanography p. 242)
This partition (zone of separation) has a different salinity from the fresh water and from the salt water (Oceanography p. 244 and Introductory Oceanography pp. 300-301)
This information has been discovered only recently using advanced equipment to measure temperature, salinity, density, oxygen dissolubility, etc. The human eye cannot see the difference between the two seas that meet, rather the two seas appear to us as one homogeneous sea. Likewise the human eye cannot see the division of water in estuaries into the three kinds: the fresh water, the salt water, the partition (zone of separation).
