9/11 Conspiracies

[tjb]

i think the government witheld some of the story. but the idea that bush had it done? i find it ridiculous. ive watched so many videos on this theory, extensively, but i think it was clintons failures as prez to attack bin laden. because he did have chances, but he blew it off to pursue his own political agenda.

pardon the pun^

[Emadyville]

i think the government witheld some of the story. but the idea that bush had it done? i find it ridiculous. ive watched so many videos on this theory, extensively, but i think it was clintons failures as prez to attack bin laden. because he did have chances, but he blew it off to pursue his own political agenda.

pardon the pun^

well, one theory is they let it happen. condolezza rice even, in front of congress admitted that they were given direct warning for exactly what happened and ignored it. not to mention the guy who admitted to congress that dick cheney basically told the planes to not shoot down one of the planes. So i mean, letting it happen is just as bad right

[77o77]

Bush did this shit.

Fancy giving any reasons for such a strong statement?

I think Bush paid a lot of money to Osama and his Gang.
I mean how could some buildings just fall into each other ...it´s impossible that it´s only the fault of the planes.There´s definitely something strange and Bush has something to do with this.

Now REALLY????
No shit it wasn't just the planes..and no buildings don't just fall over.
Planes hit them.




I love how you provide no evidence as to why bush is even smart enough to pull some shit like this.

[Emadyville]

Those buildings were built to withstand larger planes than those that hit them

[WakeUpShow]

He did exist but whether he was Gods son or a normal person can be discussed.


Anyway, this is not a place to talk about that.

There is no evidence to suggest a real Jesus Christ existed. Saying he did is a blind assumption based on nothing.

In fact, under the normal rules of historians in terms of defining real figures of history of myths, Jesus comes up a myth.

One glaring fact is that no known author, philosopher or writer of the time or close mentioned him. Yet he was supposedly this hugely influential figure. There are also many other things which just make him much more likely to be totally fictional. A Pagan sun god by all means.

And you're right. Lets not go there. If it weren't for GGGG mentioning him we wouldn't even be on it. Religious people always have to lead with The Bible teaches us or Christ tells us, no matter what. I can resist from referencing Darwin at every turn, just keep it to yourself.

bahhahahahahaha u have all this evidence for a dumbass conspiracy but u wont acknowledge a real person for which they have records of

[Emadyville]

^ embase knows what he is talking about, you're making yourself look extremely unintelligent

[mrjizzbomber]

Those buildings were built to withstand larger planes than those that hit them

Oh man, so much faith in engineers...

You realize that the oil pipes in the Gulf were designed to not explode and leak unimaginable amounts of oil into the ocean?

You realize that the levies in New Orleans were build to withstand storms like Katrina?

You realize Toyota designed their cars to brake properly?

You realize... ok, you get the point. But, just because something was DESIGNED to do something, doesn't mean it will actually do it. Bhopal, Three Mile Island, Twin Towers. Three good examples of things that didn't do what they were designed to do...

[Emadyville]

^^ I understand your point, and I'm glad you said that. But when you take into account all the facts about "how" the towers collapsed, and why they supposedly collapsed. The fact they did so in 56 and 73 minutes is something that can't be looked at as something you would expect right?

What I'm trying to say is, sometimes I feel simple things need to be looked at with some common sense also, just ignore science for a moment all together. Two buildings made to withstand airplanes bigger than those that hit it, with fires caused by jet fuel we know was never hot enough to melt steel, that they then both collapsed in such a short time? That in itself I feel, any person who looks at just that, disregarding all other knowledge, and without a prenotioned bias, would say that does not make sense, or seems to be near impossible.

It's the same thing I like to say about the towers after they collapsed. Everything in the buildings were turned to dust. If the floors collapsed onto each other, creating a pancake effect, how would each floor and the cement they were, all turn to dust? That idea, and fact, I feel when looked at unbiasly cannot be seen as something that you can make sense of, and because of that, is something you should see as being wrong. How could it all turn to dust? Especially when it was a fire and not explosives that the report spoke of.

I feel that there are a lot of simple things that need to be looked at with common sense. I understand that everyone has their own opinion, what bothers me is that people let their opinions sway what seems to be common sense at times.

I guess I'm saying, think about those two things, and if in any way they logically make sense to you.


Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezIU6ZxY ... re=related

watch and hear what an MIT professor concluded

[mrjizzbomber]

I don't think common sense can be applied to what happened. The even was unprecedented. A jumbo jet which just fueled up was flew into some of the largest buildings on the planet - like a fucking missile being shot into those towers. You can't predict / expect what is going to happen. Common sense applies to 'common' things... this event is by no means 'common'. This is one of those 'expect the unexpected' situations.

I don't really understand / know how to respond to the dust comments. I don't know what you mean by dust... everything wasn't turned to dust, where did you get that?

And, things like "they found molten steel at the base of the towers"... I dunno, all of this second-hand evidence just doesn't do anything for me. "Firefighters at the scene saw molten steel"... firefighters at the scene knew what molten steel looks like? I know, part of the problem was that the investigation was not thorough, but without first-hand/primary evidence, its all just stories and hear-say to me.

[Emadyville]

You obviously have not looked into that much, if anything. I really think you should

[mrjizzbomber]

You obviously have not looked into that much, if anything. I really think you should

No, I haven't looked into it too much, but at the same time, I haven't really been showed anything that makes me want to look into it. Maybe one night when I'm high I'll check out the details more... but really - I don't think anything is there.

[97Civic]

Personally, I don't think it was Bush who was on the inside. I don't believe Bush was intelligent enough to pull off an attack on any country. Let alone the United States.

But to push aside the posibility of someone being on the inside is foolish and weak minded.

I do believe that terrorist were the root of the whole operation, but they most certantly did not act alone. There was someone working in Washington that was feeding them information. Idk who it could have been though.

In the end thousands lost their lives, and no matter who was responcible, the victims should be remembered. Not the way in which they parrished.

[Emadyville]

You obviously have not looked into that much, if anything. I really think you should

No, I haven't looked into it too much, but at the same time, I haven't really been showed anything that makes me want to look into it. Maybe one night when I'm high I'll check out the details more... but really - I don't think anything is there.

At least you admit that, and I respect that.

But just know I've done a research paper for a college course on this, read numerous books, watched hours of movies, documentaries, newscasts, professional, and nonprofessional videos on this. I have also researched this extensively, as in between 75-100 hours in addition. I hope you take the time to wacth some youtube videos, the ones with newscasts, shit like that from that day. That'd be a great start. I'm not trying to change your mind, nor do I fully believe everything I see, hear, or read.

[97Civic]

In the end, unless substancial evidence and testimony from witnesses, there will never be a deffentive answer to if 9/11 was an inside job or not.

But, we should always open our minds to different opinions and thoughts.

[Emadyville]

In the end, unless substancial evidence and testimony from witnesses, there will never be a deffentive answer to if 9/11 was an inside job or not.

But, we should always open our minds to different opinions and thoughts.

Condelezza rice admitted to congress they had information about terrorist attacks, which would support the "they let it happen" theory.
As well as the man with dick cheney, who admitted to congress dick cheney had a stand down on the planes that could have shot down the "hijacked" planes.

Altho i know i already mentioned it in this topic