Palestine or Israel ( Poll )

[Notalius]

Of course not man. Manifestations are always good because when hundreds and thousands of people are out manifesting, you know something's wrong and governments (democracies) listen to people (or at least make you think so)

Belgium sent money to Gaza refugees because people here and if no one ever cared about the conflict they wouldn't have done it. But people here are out everyday protesting against Israel. In this case, adding fuel to the fire is a necessity.

And yeah, people who care donate money. Money buy meals, medications, and other stuff which is needed there.

But what kind of difference do donations make ? Do you really think that every single dime will be used for 'good things' ? And besides, what can they pay for ? Health packages ? More doctors and shit ? .. that's all fine but this won't make any difference when a guy with a gun is pulling up to you.

[Notalius]

First off, we can't really compare the kosovo situation with this one.

And my house was bombed by the nato. I lost family during that bombing.

Not comparing, just asking what happened. Sorry for your loss(es) brother, wars are bad on both sides no doubt, civilians don't deserve any of it. Milosevic was a piece of shit, fuck his dead ass corpse too.

Yeah, milosevic was a big pile of shit.

I'll be the first one to blame serbia for the first war but sometimes I find it extremely funny when people forget about what happened in vukovar. People just wanna have someone to blame, even with forgetting about other shit that happened. This kinda reminds me of the Israel situation. Even though they are completely different.

[classthe_king]

wait where do you live

[Notalius]

wait where do you live

I live in austria but I have a new house in serbia where I'm at every year ..

[gutawafang]

I'm not siding any. I just know that people who fight in the name of religion are stupid. The world would be so fucking peaceful if there's only one religion. People die everyday everywhere, not only in Gaza. It's depressing to see graphic images of dead kids and torn families on facebook. That's why my stand is FUCK these countries who fight in the name of religion.

And this poll is fucking unnecessary indeed. If you actually stand for Israel, then you shouldn't even call yourself human.

[SliK]

If Israel didn't have an army they would have been wiped off the map already. Like they have already had happened to them twice (?) throughout history already.

The attack on hospitals and shit is obviously 100% wrong. But look at all the shit American troops did to civilians in Iraq and Afganistan. No army is perfect. And it doesn't help when you have terrorists firing from hospital windows, attacking Israeli people and using innocent humans as shields. How do you fight an enemy like that without endangering civilians? Why is it ISRAEL's fault when the Hamas terrorists are KNOWINGLY putting their own innocent people in danger. Plus you've got so many "innocent civilians" who WANT to help Hamas.

It's such a hard situation to just point a finger and go "they're in the wrong."

^ As for the post above, I could give a hundred videos or articles of Hamas leaders calling for the extermination of ALL Jewish people, claiming Hitler was sent by God, Allah hates Jews and all that. They're both as bad as each other.

[shadyblogger]

^ yeah they're all terrible tbh. No one's entirely innocent

[Guess_Who]

I'll never understand these things or what this people have on their minds.


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[College Dropout]

The United Nations fucked it up when they decided to create a Jewish State in Palestine, back in 1947. I mean, what were they thinking, that the locals would've just sit back and allowed the Jews to take away part of their own country?
Fuck Israel.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

cuz, according to history. germans are very fucking acceptant

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Germans make sick cars though, why everything they make is top quality?

oh yes they do, as i drive a BMW myself.

they believe they are the shit and they tend to prove that they are a lot. to put it simply.

[SliK]

The United Nations fucked it up when they decided to create a Jewish State in Palestine, back in 1947. I mean, what were they thinking, that the locals would've just sit back and allowed the Jews to take away part of their own country?
Fuck Israel.

this is how i feel. we had no right to take land that wasn't ours and give it to Israel. it's not like Palestine was even in the fucking war in the first place. if anything, we should have taken land from Germany

A lot of land got taken from Germany after WWII.

Jewish people have been living in Jerusalem for millennia. It is their holiest of cities. And after an attempted genocide (and all the suffering they have endured for their entire history), I think they deserve some stake of it.

[SliK]

i don't think we should've taken anybody's land, but if they were going to do it, it would have made sense to take it from one of the aggressors of WWII and not a little fucking Arab country that had nothing to do with it

Do you not understand why they were given the land that they were?


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[SliK]

Ok then... using that logic why give back any land to Palestine now?

Edit: your solution would have been to give them Poland instead? Lol...