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Re: VENT: WTF is wrong with all the TRShady "rappers"???

Postby B.A.D. » Jan 10th, '12, 08:17

oh I get it I get... well, that is your major problem, all of that are just Assumptions/opinions, beacuse well, you are wrong on all of them

1) I don't fuck with it musically, but let's ignore that. It's an opinion, the quality is OK enough that maybeee some people do.


1. opinion, and the first like that I must say. and let me get this out of the way while we're at it, the only "internet" site that I promote myself out of my usual fanbase is this site. I was born in Mexico City, lived there almost all my life, and believe me, A big amount of people do listen & know me there, its just not very "internet" way in there as the US or other countries. So I do actually believe that you are just hating for the sake of it without actually listening.

2) Why is it on iTunes? I listened to it a tiny bit, you aren't on iTunes level dude. This type of thing should be promotional only. What will you sell, MAYBE 25 copies? You give a DL link to the unmastered version, why??? Why put out subpar quality music that will most likely be a person's first impression of you? You think people will choose the iTunes option and pay $ for an artist they never heard?


2. Its on itunes, because a few bucks wouldn't hurt, simple as that. And who are you to say who is on iTunes level or not, what the fuck is itunes level anyways now that anybody can get there?, I make it for the music, not to be... whoever you think I want to be. And let me make that clear, from many of us "TR rappers", or at least me, I don't care about getting being a known rapper, or getting youtube views lmao, no man, I do music for the people who like the music I do, simple as that, so who are you to criticize that?. And yes, you are right about the un-mastered link given, that does make me come out as arrogant, but on another note, the mastered version is very heavy for an upload like that.

3) You talked about your single dropping. Random song you release =/= single. Singles are meant to have radio impact and to build hype for an album. No offense, but you have no real hype. Just drop the project. You didn't see singles for all the OFWGKTA early releases. There is no audience for your single.


3. of course I'm gonna talk about my single dropping, how would people know? (and yes, they want to know). Also, this album actually was my first one to have real hyphe, since the last time I released something to the people who know me back home was a long time ago, I even traveled to mexico for 3 weeks and performed and everything to build up more hyphe, and yes, people saw me, and yes people was singing the song that I released like 2 weeks before that as well as songs I did when I was like fucking 16 years old. Plus I didn't do any Bad on TR also if you took the time to read the comments. but meh,

4) The cover is awful. the photo is muddled and confusing. It looks like a random cell phone pic, inverted, and then run through a blue filter. And what is the bar code for? Did you actually send this to retail? I doubt it.


4. ok, firtst, yeah, the cover is awful, at first I liked it, but now I know it could've been million times better, so I agree with that :y: And the bar code is from a program where you can submit the EAN-13 code provided by itunes. which at last I never actually did, but I kept it there since It was part of the original back-cover planning.

5) You list yourself as executive producer. You do realize this is a financial/admin position and not a musical one, right? Judging from this album, it didn't really have a budget to work with, you just recorded it. Executive producers book studios, budget for features, check and clear samples, etc.


5. Well, since I am not any major artist, I don't need to sample clearance or budget for features, and the studio time I have, I never use it for me, I am merely an apprentice engineer/producer, so I didn't rushed myself into that. However, I did pay for my distribuition, I did pay for the printed copies, I did pay for Travel to another continent, I did pay for the equipment I used. And best of all, is that I'm gonna get that all back with a little extra thanks to my sales, so its no big deal at all.

Now, I do know where you are coming from, sometimes it does seem like people act like they are already famous when in truth they are not at all, But I can promise you I'm not like that, this is actually the first time in my life when I have to rant back at someone, because I'm not really that kind of person, I don't even want to be. Like I said, I plan to live off music, but not as a rapper, but more of an engineer, manager or advisor producer. Meanwhile, I do like rap, and I do have things to say, why would anybody stop me from doing that, how I want to?... I dont give a fuck about number of "E-fans" or any of that youtube stuff all this people care about, because I already have people that care. I dont need anything else.

About my "label"... its not a record label, its a program designed to help artists advance and improve, and I do have the means for that.

You just have to understand that we don't really dream big, we make music because we like to make music, not for the glory... cuz there's no fun in that, and you don't learn from that. I've had amazing experiences with the hip hop I make, It has gotten me great things, I live in one of the best cities in the world thanks to that, when I was just another Latin kid on Mexico. Plus, I've had 2 years of professional music industry studies. I know what I'm doing.... And let the rest be man, thats why we have a place here for feedback, so people can improve, little by little... some might take it quick, some might take 10 years... as long as you enjoy what you do, who gives a fuck...

so don't hate, if you do really want to help... well, you and me know this was not the way, this is plain 100% hating. But hey, to each his own right?

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Re: VENT: WTF is wrong with all the TRShady "rappers"???

Postby Fleka » Jan 10th, '12, 09:33

I agree with the part about not putting your music out untill you make it the best it can be. You record something, come to a forum like this and ask people about their opinion and advices. And don`t get mad if someone says you suck. But then again, who am I, or anyone here to say anything about your music. So, make music the way you feel like it should be, but don`t "go out" untill you get positive feedback. A lot of positive feedback.

And remeber that the most of forum members are kids who think that multies and punchlines are all that counts.
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Re: VENT: WTF is wrong with all the TRShady "rappers"???

Postby BigBoss » Jan 10th, '12, 10:18

Jason From Miami wrote:
B.A.D. wrote:well that was certainly interesting, tho I don't know what do I have to do with all that.

I do disagree at the covers tbh, some people do make sick covers, Solace for instance or Slimm. but yeah, that was fun... just don't let it escalate man, keep this stuff on backstage :y:


Did you get your name from Breaking BAD?

are you fucking kidding me :facepalm


go slit your fucking wrists you fucked soul
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Re: VENT: WTF is wrong with all the TRShady "rappers"???

Postby B.A.D. » Jan 10th, '12, 10:32

SWEET_TOOTH wrote:
Jason From Miami wrote:
B.A.D. wrote:well that was certainly interesting, tho I don't know what do I have to do with all that.

I do disagree at the covers tbh, some people do make sick covers, Solace for instance or Slimm. but yeah, that was fun... just don't let it escalate man, keep this stuff on backstage :y:


Did you get your name from Breaking BAD?

are you fucking kidding me :facepalm


go slit your fucking wrists you fucked soul


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Re: VENT: WTF is wrong with all the TRShady "rappers"???

Postby Alex2012 » Jan 10th, '12, 10:52

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i miss the time when TR was more funny than all the tv show. :'(
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Re: VENT: WTF is wrong with all the TRShady "rappers"???

Postby Solace » Jan 10th, '12, 13:42

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Re: VENT: WTF is wrong with all the TRShady "rappers"???

Postby BigBoss » Jan 10th, '12, 14:32

i miss Satire, he went away right when i came in :(
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Re: VENT: WTF is wrong with all the TRShady "rappers"???

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Jan 10th, '12, 16:49

FreeDoom wrote:Yes...It is completely impossible people do it for fun....as a hobby or pastime. No way at all,It is all about the money. Yes...


This.

I really like you freespeech,but if anybody cares enough about what you think about the music they make then they are dumbfucks,that was total hating,just something that you are not supposed to touch on since it doesnt concern you at all son.
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Re: VENT: WTF is wrong with all the TRShady "rappers"???

Postby Slimm » Jan 10th, '12, 17:01

@ Name

All he did was add some text though.
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Re: VENT: WTF is wrong with all the TRShady "rappers"???

Postby Slimm » Jan 10th, '12, 17:07

*name* wrote:
Slimm wrote:@ Name

All he did was add some text though.


Didn't say he designed it, the concept of it is great. It doesn't matter what he did tbh, what matters is the final creation with album covers. If he made it from scratch it would only get him more props.


Technically you called it his creation and you said he was a great designer, which he isn't. I don't think he should deserve props as a designer for taking someone else's work. I understand what you mean though, perhaps we just think differently about it.
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Re: VENT: WTF is wrong with all the TRShady "rappers"???

Postby DƎRDYPK » Jan 10th, '12, 17:23

can't believe this assmunch ignored my question, he's too embarrassed to say yes
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Re: VENT: WTF is wrong with all the TRShady "rappers"???

Postby Kez » Jan 10th, '12, 17:31

I'm curious your opinion on me. Indulge my ego.
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Re: VENT: WTF is wrong with all the TRShady "rappers"???

Postby mdemaz » Jan 10th, '12, 20:55

I sort of agree with most of the stuff, but I ain't lied about the labels and stuff, but I gave up on that shit like last year....Because that radio guy was a fag...Promising shit he could not deliver.
I'm sick of being jerked around and getting a negative opinion planted on me for stuff I did 2-5 years ago...

Shit is just fucked up where I live and I get hardly any dick riders and such..
So I have to try to fit in with the big boys here now..
Most of my new music has improved quality, something I will work on during the year while re-recording old tracks..
I guess I just lost my drive and just did shit half-assed..

I'm just your average guy, I try to get rid of my depression and shit with music..I never intended to make a shit stain on this site.
I apologize.
I seriously don't know how I'm coming off as a lying douche.

I couldn't really give a fuck now what people think of my rapping since I changed my crap style to a more professional style lately.
I know it sounds good, credible people tell me it's great, so most of the hate lately is just pure hating.
I live by myself mastering my craft, I've had to deal with bullshit all my life, so nothing really fazes me.
I'm just glad I'm able to learn from my mistakes and start fresh.

I don't have a problem with you Speech, but I think this whole thing is a misunderstanding and you have some flaws in the opinions you gathered of me.
I'm not really a big-egoed insolent asshole you believe me to be, I look after my mother, I sit here day after day wanting to die, then walk outside with a smile saying hello to everybody.
Then sit at home rapping and making music and uploading it for people to see..

I hid my pain then let it out in my music as trash.
The crap manifested into crap music I guess, that's my only explanation.
I'm not the guy that ignores feedback, YES, tell me what's wrong so I can fix it, I don't care, blaze away.
And I HAVE improved dramatically because of this.

People with half the skill as me saying they weren't feeling me or nobody is as ill as me sorta thing.
I got bad feed from my dumb friends where I live, which is probably one contributing factor to my shit rapping.

Anyway, I'm sick of being defensive, I don't wanna argue with anyone, I'm just saying.
I don't have a problem with anyone even if they have a problem with me..Which is probably 70 percent of the forum now.
if you have a problem with me, you have sand in your vagina, because I barely argue or be a troll here at all...Or feed trolls either.
I don't give a fuck about the past now.
I don't give a fuck about basically anything atm..

As for the video, I didn't really see much wrong with it, it was low-budgeted as fuck though...
Dunno why people have to shit themselves over it OMG POOR FILMING..It's a fucking self-shot video for fuck's sake..
I just read that thread just now and I just couldn't respond to it, I don't like arguing or making a defensive excuse at all after I got the message that people don't like what I submit...
But I do if I keep getting fucking people commenting on my shit saying I'm whack as fuck without giving any sort of reason is to why they think that.
Also, randoms like Nefarious and that other cunt, Noggerton.
They just want to plain hate and rip on me for no apparent reason and not give me any sort of positive feed and just horrible criticism on some of my better old pieces.

People like Geno and Menzo enjoy some of my stuff, it's people like that I know I can listen to because they also tell me what I'm doing wrong as well as what I'm doing right instead of wrong wrong fucking wrong.

I'm fucking sick and tired of putting up with bullshit, I'm just not going to read anything anymore really.
Yes I'm sorta mad, this place has been filling with retards gradually over the year and it's making my stomach churn.
I love it here, but I hate how everyone is soo fucking smug all the time and think they are superior to each other.

And I dunno why Solace suddenly despises me, I haven't done anything to him or anyone.

For the record, I have sold physical copies of my albums in my city, most of them don't circulate very well online, so I do some of the uploading because I want people to hear the shit everywhere.
I only upload in MP3, not lossless.

Anyways, peace out.
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Re: VENT: WTF is wrong with all the TRShady "rappers"???

Postby Solace » Jan 10th, '12, 22:10

mdemaz wrote:And I dunno why Solace suddenly despises me, I haven't done anything to him or anyone.

Show me where I said I despised you.

*name* wrote:On a side note I think this is the best album cover made in TR history tbh:
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Thanks. It wasn't my original photograph though, but I do feel I did a sufficient amount of editing. I wish I could find the original for a comparison, but I've searched for a whole half an hour once with (what I'm sure was) the exact keywords I typed into Google to find the photo. Couldn't find shit. I do agree with everything Slimm is saying about the designing and creating thing. Slimm does the best work with graphics on this site, the album cover he made for Ironic or GT Ronic, whatever his name is, is amazing.
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Re: VENT: WTF is wrong with all the TRShady "rappers"???

Postby Spyder » Jan 10th, '12, 22:32

of course they wont get as good of quality as Jay or Kanye or Em or what have you.
and yes i do understand you can do great things with those programs to have good quality.
so i agree with you there.

as far as the mic goes i disagree. you can have good quality with a shitty mic. after all, the program should be able to handle that as you said right? lol. but look at Solace, he told me he uses a desktop mic and his quality is the best ive heard on the site IMO

as far as the graphics i disagree as well. most pro albums cover are what. Weezy sitting in a chair...
Em walking down a road... Jay smoking a cigar or just Jay's head in black... i mean really. id rather look at the creative covers on here anyday.

either way you got your opinion and i agree with a lot of your points. but coomoooon
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