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Re: "Apparently You Ain't Parents"

Postby Emadyville » Apr 26th, '12, 15:42

Slim Fiasco wrote:Yesterday, I watched yet another interview with a "professional" idiot who claimed that Video Games influence kids to be violent. Motherfucker, I've been an avid gamer my whole life and I've never been in a fight, nor have I damaged my social life. If you can distinguish between right or wrong, which is basically common sense, or at least something your parents should teach you, then nothing will be able to influence you in a bad way.


I don't think it influences them I think it desensitizes them, which I agree with.

But what's even worse is simply watching the news about murders, drugs, rape, war, school shootings, robberies, gangs, etc. Same thing, to which I think is worse because it is stuff happening in real life.
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Re: "Apparently You Ain't Parents"

Postby Guess_Who » Apr 27th, '12, 10:56

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Certificate: Test results
If people did not know your age, how old would they think you are?

For 33 % you are: Somebody would assume you are a young-ish adult (between twenty and mid-thirties), or reasonably mature. Some qualities people will assume about you are: fun, adventurous, and up-to-date (meaning you will keep up with technology and such). I suppose this is the average age-range of most people surfing the Internet, anyways. Please remember that this is only my opinion, and results may vary depending on your culture.

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Re: "Apparently You Ain't Parents"

Postby Guess_Who » Apr 27th, '12, 11:48

Hesky wrote:I drink tea probably more than anyone on this forumImage


I just drink a green tea per day, and Nestea sometimes. I don't like coke or coffee. I only drink green or white tea, you see ? I'm speaking like someone in her mid 30's to 50's. Sofisticated, sofisticated! :p
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Re: "Apparently You Ain't Parents"

Postby Guess_Who » Apr 27th, '12, 12:55

Hesky wrote:Sophisticated ;)


Oh....I was speaking Spanglish, sometimes I invent my own words ! I will try to remember. :y:
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Re: "Apparently You Ain't Parents"

Postby CrashBand » Apr 29th, '12, 13:25

Slim Fiasco wrote:Yesterday, I watched yet another interview with a "professional" idiot who claimed that Video Games influence kids to be violent. Motherfucker, I've been an avid gamer my whole life and I've never been in a fight, nor have I damaged my social life.
This is pretty retarded logic. You may smoke weed your whole life and be fine but it may be proven to cause psychological side effects with people. Just because it doesn't affect YOU doesn't mean it doesn't have side effects.

Now I'm not sure if statistics show people that play violent video games are more likely to be violent because I haven't done the research but I'm pretty sure 'professional idiot' aren't just blindly making it up for no reason. But I may be wrong and they may have no substantial justification.

If you can distinguish between right or wrong, which is basically common sense, or at least something your parents should teach you, then nothing will be able to influence you in a bad way.
It's not that simple as people have different rights and wrongs and people have different parenting. If a child was raised in a violent household where it taught them it was okay to be violent (just as how violent video games have the potential to do) then it is the biggest cop out to say people should just 'know' it wrong. IF

This leads me to the whole thing about censure, which of course is a stupid notion. Everybody knows curse words, and everybody uses them, but you should be aware of which register is to be used in which occasion, and avoiding bad language isn't the answer. I'm telling you even now, that my kid will play video games, watch action movies, listen to me cursing all the time, listen to rap, all that at a very early age; and he will turn out just fine.
This is a slightly different point you bring up and coincidentally I have made a similar thread in serious debate. Here is where I slightly disagree and feel you contradict yourself. You say censor is a stupid notion but then go on to say people should be aware which occasions to swear. Surely if swearing is allright then it should be fine to swear in front of anyone?
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Re: "Apparently You Ain't Parents"

Postby Slim Fiasco » Apr 29th, '12, 17:38

This is pretty retarded logic. You may smoke weed your whole life and be fine but it may be proven to cause psychological side effects with people. Just because it doesn't affect YOU doesn't mean it doesn't have side effects.

Now I'm not sure if statistics show people that play violent video games are more likely to be violent because I haven't done the research but I'm pretty sure 'professional idiot' aren't just blindly making it up for no reason. But I may be wrong and they may have no substantial justification.


You can't control the effects of weed, it is a physical substance that you put into your body, and you can't decide how it will affect your braincells or whatever. Video games are a different thing; you can be smart enough to consciously decide how it will affect you. And excuse me if my post was a bit ambiguous, but the guy talked on video games like it was the sole reason for people being violent. And even if it is part of the reason, I'm sure it shouldn't be the priority problem to solve.

It's not that simple as people have different rights and wrongs and people have different parenting. If a child was raised in a violent household where it taught them it was okay to be violent (just as how violent video games have the potential to do) then it is the biggest cop out to say people should just 'know' it wrong.


I said parents should teach you, it doesn't mean that all parents do teach (or show) their children all the right things, which is obviously a bigger problem than video games. Hence the tittle "apparently you ain't parents". Before pointing the finger to videos games, you should look at yourself. Though in that guy's defense, he actually may be a parent who doesn't allow his kids to play videos (which is what one should do, if they think they're a bad thing). And again, if parents are being violent around their children, that could have much worse consequences than playing video games, and that should be the focus of these "do-gooders".

This is a slightly different point you bring up and coincidentally I have made a similar thread in serious debate. Here is where I slightly disagree and feel you contradict yourself. You say censor is a stupid notion but then go on to say people should be aware which occasions to swear. Surely if swearing is allright then it should be fine to swear in front of anyone?


Surely if masturbating is alright, then it should be fine to masturbate in front of anyone? Of course it depends on the circumstances. If cursing is avoided in songs, movies or whatever it doesn't change anything. People will still curse, and will be aware of the existence of cursing. We use different registers with different people, it's up to us to use the proper one in the proper occasion.

Anyway, thanks for your input, you bring up some interesting points.
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Re: "Apparently You Ain't Parents"

Postby Amaranthine » Apr 29th, '12, 17:45

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Slim Fiasco wrote:Yesterday, I watched yet another interview with a "professional" idiot who claimed that Video Games influence kids to be violent. Motherfucker, I've been an avid gamer my whole life and I've never been in a fight, nor have I damaged my social life.
This is pretty retarded logic. You may smoke weed your whole life and be fine but it may be proven to cause psychological side effects with people. Just because it doesn't affect YOU doesn't mean it doesn't have side effects.

Now I'm not sure if statistics show people that play violent video games are more likely to be violent because I haven't done the research but I'm pretty sure 'professional idiot' aren't just blindly making it up for no reason. But I may be wrong and they may have no substantial justification.

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Re: "Apparently You Ain't Parents"

Postby CrashBand » Apr 29th, '12, 23:08

Slim Fiasco wrote:You can't control the effects of weed, it is a physical substance that you put into your body, and you can't decide how it will affect your braincells or whatever. Video games are a different thing; you can be smart enough to consciously decide how it will affect you. And excuse me if my post was a bit ambiguous, but the guy talked on video games like it was the sole reason for people being violent. And even if it is part of the reason, I'm sure it shouldn't be the priority problem to solve.

Okay forget weed and actually being high but imagine X was proved to make people be more likely to be violent, insane, depressed whatever. Even if it's not the main cause and other things should be the priority if it is deemed to be part of the problem and it is realistically able to fix then we shouldn't ignore it just because it's not a priority.

I said parents should teach you, it doesn't mean that all parents do teach (or show) their children all the right things, which is obviously a bigger problem than video games. Hence the tittle "apparently you ain't parents". Before pointing the finger to videos games, you should look at yourself. Though in that guy's defense, he actually may be a parent who doesn't allow his kids to play videos (which is what one should do, if they think they're a bad thing). And again, if parents are being violent around their children, that could have much worse consequences than playing video games, and that should be the focus of these "do-gooders".
So basically you think it's up to the parents and when you are older it's up to you? Lets say Herion causes all these bad side effects, would you argue parents should be stopping their kids and not the government as well by making it illegal.

Now I know herion and as you mentioned a violent household will have worse consequences. But if video games are proven to cause something bad. Then whatever else causes worse things is irrelevant.

Surely if masturbating is alright, then it should be fine to masturbate in front of anyone? Of course it depends on the circumstances. If cursing is avoided in songs, movies or whatever it doesn't change anything. People will still curse, and will be aware of the existence of cursing. We use different registers with different people, it's up to us to use the proper one in the proper occasion.

Anyway, thanks for your input, you bring up some interesting points.
We are slightly straying off the main point so I'll leave this alone :b:
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