Fuck Eminem

[4D]

Every cd that came out after tupacs death... SUCKED. Except the songs that were mixed and recorded to the original beat and just put on cd's.

I stopped listening to Pac after All Eyes On ME, his last great album!

[4D]

And I suppose you can make a better 2Pac album?

That's what he's saying.

[DrRapid]

And i aint even a fan of eminem production. (im not sure wich songs he even produced on loyal to the game, ill check my booklet later). I got mine with a bonus cd of remixes from other peeps no affiliated to shady/aftermath... and the tracks on that second cd sucked.

matter of fact ill be honest enough to say.

Every cd that came out after tupacs death... SUCKED. Except the songs that were mixed and recorded to the original beat and just put on cd's.

well i preety much think that there r gud songs on Better Dayz, Until The End Of Time, Still I Rise and R U Still Down

[$0 R3@L]

And I suppose you can make a better 2Pac album?

lol

and i agree wit asp and 4d

[,-,'-{Bar}-',-,]

love or hate eminem but his production work is always brilliant,apart from that junk ass beat with t.i. anyway 'loyal to the game' contains a few good points which is more then can be said for other remixed 2pac commercial albums.The only thing i disagreed with was the people he featured on there with pac,elton john? wtf's with that.

Anyway i find this whole argument pointless,discussing an album thats 3 years old based on ones opinion and tastes.

true man


uh, btw, hoopz man, you shouldnt insult eminems remixing skills, he creates his own beats for the remixes..you dont, so straight away his 2pac remix album will always be better than one of yours, dont get big headed man coz thats the way its coming off, if im reading it wrong, then my bad


oh and as for loyal to the game album, i liked it, i never could lsiten completely through but i could listen to a good handful of the tracks, taking pac away from westcoast beats was like WOAH weird ya know, pac didnt sound the same but it still sounded sick, and no album released after his death will ever be as good as when he was alive, as fordie sayed, they are scrapping the bottom of the barrel, so most the tracks that do suck, suck because they were pella's pac created out of boredome when he had a hour to kill on a sunday


oh and as for this thread and the thread title, it reminds me of a flamez attention seeking thread, only in a different form

[Kez]

Anyway, the fact is Hoopz, that you not liking how Eminem handled Pac's vocals is not an excuse for you to say "Fuck Eminem". You could of quite easily just said "I don't like Eminem because..", but no, it had to be "Fuck Eminem". It is of course a viable reason for you to dislike him, but not a good reason to say fuck him. Now, i don't pretend to know the intimate details of remixing, Pac's music or anything like that. No. I'm telling this from the viewpoint of a casual listener. I will admit that Eminem making Pac say "G-Unit" was a stupid move, as that's just disrespectful. But the fact still remains that music is made for people to listen to. I don't have to research Tupac to enjoy his music. I don't have to know about Pac's earlier shit to enjoy the album Eminem produced. I don't have to care about the 3/4 of lyrics cut out of Ghetto Gospel to enjoy it. Also, don't call us groupies, please. A groupie is some dumb bitch who wants to suck the person in question's cock, the people you are referring to (as there is nobody like that on here) are just people who're defending what they believe. Just like you, Hoopz. Imagine if someone posted a thread like "Fuck Pac" and said they disliked him cause he started loads of beef. Naturally you would defend Pac, as it would be an unfair statement in your opinion. Now imagine if when you did this, we started calling you a groupie. Think about that next time you decide to call someone who isn't a groupie a groupie. And don't throw the "you don't know what you're talking about" shit at me either. I do know what i'm talking about. Just cause i don't listen to Pac/Bone Thugs whatever all the time dosen't mean my opinion is not valid. And that's the end of this long fuckin post, i better not of forgotten any points in there.

[Hoopz]

And i aint even a fan of eminem production. (im not sure wich songs he even produced on loyal to the game, ill check my booklet later). I got mine with a bonus cd of remixes from other peeps no affiliated to shady/aftermath... and the tracks on that second cd sucked.

matter of fact ill be honest enough to say.

Every cd that came out after tupacs death... SUCKED. Except the songs that were mixed and recorded to the original beat and just put on cd's.

check the Better Dayz album.

[AspirinE]

And i aint even a fan of eminem production. (im not sure wich songs he even produced on loyal to the game, ill check my booklet later). I got mine with a bonus cd of remixes from other peeps no affiliated to shady/aftermath... and the tracks on that second cd sucked.

matter of fact ill be honest enough to say.

Every cd that came out after tupacs death... SUCKED. Except the songs that were mixed and recorded to the original beat and just put on cd's.

check the Better Dayz album.

I own it, i have a 3 cd mp3 collection discography package of 2pac.
ON better dayz, the only good songs were the ones that were less fucked with.
The whole hype with the albums that came out after pacs death is overated, people buy em just because.. and they really that good.

[$0 R3@L]

First of all, i have to defend Hoopz against the people saying "It's been 3 years since it was produced, get over it.". Because it's been almost 3 years since Encore was made, and that is still one of the arguments used as evidence for Eminem's decline in quality lately. I'm on the side of 4D, yes, but that is still a truthful fact

yes but unlike this argument the '3 year old album' isnt usually the main piece of material being used to hate eminem.People discussing eminems decline WILL mention Encore as a argument point however will not base the whole argument on that one piece of evidence.Not only would that be blind sighted but plain dumb.

There also isnt no need to 'defend hoopz', for one his a big boy and im sure he wants people to debate and analyse his point of view and opinion otherwise he wouldnt have posted his views on a public discussion forum.

[Kez]

^ When did i say Encore was a "main argument"? I just said it's one of the points of evidence to Eminem's decline of quality.

As for the "defending Hoopz", that was just me staying neutral, pointing out what he was right about as well as wrong (in my opinion). But whatever.

[Hoopz]

And i aint even a fan of eminem production. (im not sure wich songs he even produced on loyal to the game, ill check my booklet later). I got mine with a bonus cd of remixes from other peeps no affiliated to shady/aftermath... and the tracks on that second cd sucked.

matter of fact ill be honest enough to say.

Every cd that came out after tupacs death... SUCKED. Except the songs that were mixed and recorded to the original beat and just put on cd's.

check the Better Dayz album.

I own it, i have a 3 cd mp3 collection discography package of 2pac.
ON better dayz, the only good songs were the ones that were less fucked with.
The whole hype with the albums that came out after pacs death is overated, people buy em just because.. and they really that good.

no tempos were messed with really on better dayz.

[AspirinE]

no tempos were messed with really on better dayz.

the fuck do i care about tempos, im talking music, u can remix good music, the original is always better. Unless we talking rappers that dont use specif emotion for a beat.

[Tash8]

ok, original is always going to be better because everyone puts their emotion and flow towards one beat, unless you create the same melody and somewhat same drums.. it's not gonna be better. so stop with your whinin.

[SajN]

First of all, i have to defend Hoopz against the people saying "It's been 3 years since it was produced, get over it.". Because it's been almost 3 years since Encore was made, and that is still one of the arguments used as evidence for Eminem's decline in quality lately. I'm on the side of 4D, yes, but that is still a truthful fact.

Anyway, the fact is Hoopz, that you not liking how Eminem handled Pac's vocals is not an excuse for you to say "Fuck Eminem". You could of quite easily just said "I don't like Eminem because..", but no, it had to be "Fuck Eminem". It is of course a viable reason for you to dislike him, but not a good reason to say fuck him. Now, i don't pretend to know the intimate details of remixing, Pac's music or anything like that. No. I'm telling this from the viewpoint of a casual listener. I will admit that Eminem making Pac say "G-Unit" was a stupid move, as that's just disrespectful. But the fact still remains that music is made for people to listen to. I don't have to research Tupac to enjoy his music. I don't have to know about Pac's earlier shit to enjoy the album Eminem produced. I don't have to care about the 3/4 of lyrics cut out of Ghetto Gospel to enjoy it. Also, don't call us groupies, please. A groupie is some dumb bitch who wants to suck the person in question's cock, the people you are referring to (as there is nobody like that on here) are just people who're defending what they believe. Just like you, Hoopz. Imagine if someone posted a thread like "Fuck Pac" and said they disliked him cause he started loads of beef. Naturally you would defend Pac, as it would be an unfair statement in your opinion. Now imagine if when you did this, we started calling you a groupie. Think about that next time you decide to call someone who isn't a groupie a groupie. And don't throw the "you don't know what you're talking about" shit at me either. I do know what i'm talking about. Just cause i don't listen to Pac/Bone Thugs whatever all the time dosen't mean my opinion is not valid. And that's the end of this long fuckin post, i better not of forgotten any points in there.