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Re: Eminem’s Lipton Brisk Super Bowl Commercial

Postby SlipperyMooseCakes » Feb 7th, '11, 20:03

EminemBase wrote:
A lot of people think doing a song with Rihanna is selling-out but to me that's not because the motive was quite obviously the fact she was a very public victim of domestic abuse and the song is about that, so it's an uncomfortable paradox. Like him performing with Elton in front of GLAAD.


Ahh I was just going to bring that analogy up! I was going to say plenty of people would argue with you that having people link Pink and Rihanna on his album is selling out. However, I agree with you on that he didn't sell out of that, he was very relevant to his music which is what he is all about.

EminemBase wrote:Things like that, are artistically motivated.


Ok, keep this in mind. I'm going to reference it later.
EminemBase wrote:But you can't seriously believe his main motive of a 30 second ice tea commercial, for millions of dollars, was the commercial itself. I can tell from your responses you're not dumb, so I don't believe you think that.


You're right, I don't. Clearly money is a part of this or else he would have done it for free. However the reason I draw the line is because he has always been about creative freedom and expressing himself and I just personally believe he accomplished this. I just think he managed to collaborate making money, having publicity and not selling out his image pretty well. Of course he has nothing to do with iced tea and I'm sure he doesn't even drink it and that can be brought into question, I understand that. Em has just never struck me as a guy that has done it souly for the money. He is the world's biggest artist and yet he doesn't even make the most in his field. He has had plenty of Superbowls and other opportunities to endorse I'm sure and turned them down because he felt like he would be selling out or they didn't give him creative freedom. I think Lipton was very wise in approaching him differently. Em got paid and kept his freedom, Lipton got some great advertisement time out of it. [/quote]

EminemBase wrote:So, just because the commercial itself is funny, I don't think that justifies the act. Like I say, there's different degrees of selling-out. So, let's call it the low-end then. But it's still a compromise, randomly endorsing something for a pay-off.


Ahh see I don't think it isn't selling out because it was funny, I think it wasn't because of the creative freedom. He kind of did his own thing. I will compromise with you on that there are different degrees. He did get paid for a company to promote their product. I just don't think there has to always be a negative connotation with doing that always.

EminemBase wrote:Like I say, and this is a perfectly valid analogy - if he did a song with Backstreet Boys then, but the song turned out good and he remained true to himself, would you consider that not selling-out too? If he got paid off to do it. It's still taking money to associate himself with something he wouldn't otherwise, if NOT for the money...


I don't think it would be possible for Em to stay true to himself if he collaborated with the Backstreet Boys. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say some how they pulled off a rap song with all the backstreet boys then yes I do think he would be selling out because part of the thing he stands for is working with real talented artists that he respects and I don't honestly believe Em does have respect for them deep down inside. Especially if he did it for money because he would have no other reason to do so because he doesn't respect them but is merely getting a pay check out of it. I think Em respected this commercial and the work put into it. It was well done. But people would argue just the opposite so who knows, that's the great debate haha.[/quote]
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Re: Eminem’s Lipton Brisk Super Bowl Commercial

Postby NicoleEM » Feb 7th, '11, 20:08

Emshady2 wrote:Good commercial! Funny :D

This,i liked it more then the Chrysler one :happy:
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Re: Eminem’s Lipton Brisk Super Bowl Commercial

Postby Anim » Feb 7th, '11, 20:22

He probably did it just for fun, and because he wanted to do it. That doesn't mean he should do it for free either. At the end of the day Eminem is ALLWAYS selling a product. Be it music, films, cars of iced tea...

Btw hiphopdx wrote a very good article on this a couple of days ago http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/editorial ... dorsements
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Re: Eminem’s Lipton Brisk Super Bowl Commercial

Postby SlipperyMooseCakes » Feb 7th, '11, 20:28

Anim wrote:He probably did it just for fun, and because he wanted to do it. That doesn't mean he should do it for free either. At the end of the day Eminem is ALLWAYS selling a product. Be it music, films, cars of iced tea...

Btw hiphopdx wrote a very good article on this a couple of days ago http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/editorial ... dorsements



A very well written and thought out article. It states a lot of the same things I have been trying to stress.
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Re: Eminem’s Lipton Brisk Super Bowl Commercial

Postby Alia » Feb 7th, '11, 20:37

EminemBase wrote:I think less of him as a person now.


lol, really? The man has pistol whipped a man, beat up his wife, dissed black women, written songs about killing his wife and raping his mother.....and this makes you think less of him, lmfao.
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Re: Eminem’s Lipton Brisk Super Bowl Commercial

Postby EminemBase » Feb 7th, '11, 21:06

dbiggie wrote:
EminemBase wrote:I think less of him as a person now.


lol, really? The man has pistol whipped a man, beat up his wife, dissed black women, written songs about killing his wife and raping his mother.....and this makes you think less of him, lmfao.


1. He drew an empty pistol on a guy, he was tryna look tough and let the anger get the better of him. Like we all haven't done that at some point.

2. He's never beat up his wife as far as I know. He may say it in songs but from the reports of his mother and friends, Kim would always be hitting him and he wouldn't fight back. I don't think he's a woman beater.

3. That song was a tongue in cheek freestyle, nobody is immune from insults or ribbing. It was a momentary thing, which he also apologized for. And as a kid.

4. Writing songs about raping his mother and killing his wife - no he's made art about those things. "Kim" is art, the fact he's killing his wife just happens to be the theme and content but that's not why it's so brilliant. And it's a song. That's like saying you should think less of Tarantino for writing movies about murderers.

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But outside of his music, as a person - I used to think he had integrity and, he was above tacky shit and random endorsements. So I think less of him for lowering himself to 50 Cent's standard and associating himself with something, for cash.
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Re: Eminem’s Lipton Brisk Super Bowl Commercial

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Feb 7th, '11, 21:59

***** wrote:he loves football

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LOL, I've said that like 4 different times on this subject and no one else has said anything about it. I honestly think that's why he did these commercials, just as a way to participate in the Superbowl
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Re: Eminem’s Lipton Brisk Super Bowl Commercial

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Feb 7th, '11, 22:12

I kinda noticed this in the commercial as a subliminal type of message right at the end of the commercial.

When Em says "but i got one final demand"

and the guy says "no we cant change the name to Eminem shut and drink ice tea"

and Em says "see thats why i dont do commercial's"

that aint a coincedence,some little message was meant to reach the viewer here.

hope yall nikkaz get it.
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Re: Eminem’s Lipton Brisk Super Bowl Commercial

Postby j04370859 » Feb 7th, '11, 22:13

EminemBase wrote:
dbiggie wrote:
EminemBase wrote:I think less of him as a person now.


lol, really? The man has pistol whipped a man, beat up his wife, dissed black women, written songs about killing his wife and raping his mother.....and this makes you think less of him, lmfao.


1. He drew an empty pistol on a guy, he was tryna look tough and let the anger get the better of him. Like we all haven't done that at some point.

2. He's never beat up his wife as far as I know. He may say it in songs but from the reports of his mother and friends, Kim would always be hitting him and he wouldn't fight back. I don't think he's a woman beater.

3. That song was a tongue in cheek freestyle, nobody is immune from insults or ribbing. It was a momentary thing, which he also apologized for. And as a kid.

4. Writing songs about raping his mother and killing his wife - no he's made art about those things. "Kim" is art, the fact he's killing his wife just happens to be the theme and content but that's not why

it's so brilliant. And it's a song. That's like saying you should think less of Tarantino for writing movies about murderers.

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But outside of his music, as a person - I used to think he had integrity and, he was above tacky shit and
random endorsements. So I think less of him for lowering himself to 50 Cent's standard and associating
himself with something, for cash.

Oh your still calling eminem a sellout just for doing a commercial bla bla bla now you think less of him
don't you ever stop crying.
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Re: Eminem’s Lipton Brisk Super Bowl Commercial

Postby Mahmoud48 » Feb 7th, '11, 22:19

eminem sells out for doing a commercial??
so this man cant do what he wants because u have an image of him
and if he tarnishes ur precious little image of urs hes a sell out
come on thats pathetic
and most of the time the record label or the manager tells eminem what to do
its all about money
u ppl have no sense of business
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Re: Eminem’s Lipton Brisk Super Bowl Commercial

Postby EminemBase » Feb 7th, '11, 22:55

j04370859 wrote:Oh your still calling eminem a sellout just for doing a commercial bla bla bla now you think less of him
don't you ever stop crying.


My god you're dumb.

I don't give a flying fuck you moron, don't you even understand that I'm arguing about the definition and not about Eminem.

I just care about truth, and the fact people won't call a spade a spade because it's Em. I'm not crying about anything you retard, I'm not even breaking a sweat, I'm just casually responding to your bullshit again and again. Because it stinks.
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Re: Eminem’s Lipton Brisk Super Bowl Commercial

Postby EminemBase » Feb 7th, '11, 22:58

Mahmoud48 wrote:eminem sells out for doing a commercial??
so this man cant do what he wants because u have an image of him
and if he tarnishes ur precious little image of urs hes a sell out
come on thats pathetic
and most of the time the record label or the manager tells eminem what to do
its all about money
u ppl have no sense of business


Eminem is a sell-out for endorsing a product for money. Yes. If that's not nothing is and you do not know what selling-out is. You may as well not use the term, as you will defend anything he does.

And come on, using his record label as an excuse? lmfao. They can't tell him what to do you silly, they distribute his music, they're not the boss of his life.

And I have plenty sense of business actually. But there's ways to conduct business, with Dr. Dre for example, he spent years on an extremely credible set of headphones and is now making a ton from those - that's business. If you're going to make money, as an artist and stay integral, do it involving your art in some way, as an expansion or extension of who you are.

I got a business overdraft from the bank for my web design business and have been immersed in Internet marketing since my early teens, I know plenty about business fuck nut. But slapping your name on a product is not business. It's whoring your name out.
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Re: Eminem’s Lipton Brisk Super Bowl Commercial

Postby clustr » Feb 7th, '11, 23:02

hum, i'm feeling EmBase tbh, although i dont think bad of him now ;)
he just changed as an artist (collaborates with nicki minaj roflamo+...+...+...) and as a person, i guess most of us would love to turn back time and just keep him stuck at the age of 26 or something but unfortunately we cant.

I like the commercial but yeah, feels kinda awkward to see him advertising for ice tea for the hell of it.
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Re: Eminem’s Lipton Brisk Super Bowl Commercial

Postby clustr » Feb 7th, '11, 23:08

EminemBase wrote:
And I have plenty sense of business actually. But there's ways to conduct business, with Dr. Dre for example, he spent years on an extremely credible set of headphones and is now making a ton from those - that's business. If you're going to make money, as an artist and stay integral, do it involving your art in some way, as an expansion or extension of who you are.


yo, why bring dre in :( didn't he advertise for dr. pepper?
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Re: Eminem’s Lipton Brisk Super Bowl Commercial

Postby rinnie1207 » Feb 7th, '11, 23:08

Genocide wrote:Guys.

It was a commercial.

If you think he sold out, fine, if you don't, fine.

Let's just enjoy it.

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