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Re: Eminem: Great artist, awful label owner

Postby Emadyville » Nov 22nd, '10, 01:17

I agree with the re-up idea, or at least a mixtape, whether an album for sale or not would be really smart :y:
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Re: Eminem: Great artist, awful label owner

Postby Robbie G » Nov 22nd, '10, 01:21

The label pretty much went to hell when Em entered his Drug era. Em fell apart, G-Unit fell apart, D12 fell apart, Cashis/Bobby were signed, Dre didn't do shit...

I'll give Em the benefit of the doubt that he'll be able to turn it around in the next year or two. Not too too optimistic but hopefully he'll be able to.
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Re: Eminem: Great artist, awful label owner

Postby Emadyville » Nov 22nd, '10, 01:25

O, and the fact that ems albums will sell for decades to come, there will always be money coming in from that, so I don't necessarily see him having to keep big name artists...just saying, obviously he needs to make moves, but it isn't like murder inc and when em killed ja they had no one else on the label and no one buying ja anymore
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Re: Eminem: Great artist, awful label owner

Postby FreeSpeech » Nov 22nd, '10, 01:37

Em and Dre are pretty much morons when it comes to running labels haha. Joel Ortiz, Raekwon, Rakim, and Bishop Lamont were all signed to Aftermath and left the label without dropping a record (just to name a few artists, there are plenty more). They had the Game and Busta Rhymes signed, both left after 1 album.
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Re: Eminem: Great artist, awful label owner

Postby Slim's Shady » Nov 22nd, '10, 02:48

Robbie G wrote:The label pretty much went to hell when Em entered his Drug era. Em fell apart, G-Unit fell apart, D12 fell apart, Cashis/Bobby were signed, Dre didn't do shit...

I'll give Em the benefit of the doubt that he'll be able to turn it around in the next year or two. Not too too optimistic but hopefully he'll be able to.

Sadly, when Eminem fell, his partners/friends/labelmates fell.

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Re: Eminem: Great artist, awful label owner

Postby FreeSpeech » Nov 22nd, '10, 03:43

Francesco10 wrote:What's awful here is your post, as usual.
If you knew just a little what business is you should know Eminem's solo career goes first, and Shady Records go after so the label is way bordered right there. If EM wanted to sit back and sign plenty of artists like Russel does while doing yoga, then it'd be way different.
Comercially Shady's a label of the caliber only one or two others can fuck with and considering all that has come in the little time in between EM recording his solo albums, touring and his personal drama, Shady's a staple in hip hop. Not just that it has brought new artists making them worldwide superstars, but erased other labels from the face of hip hop as well. Plus what's Aftermath/Shady counts for Shady as well doesn't it. Eminem's always been bordered by Interscope too because Interscope is all about sales, so EM have to sing marketable artists only, not just lyricists period.
Young money is an all out label, with steady sales that would be considered not too good at Interscope. Apart Wayne, Drake and Nicky noone else would have a chance to get a deal on Interscope. Young money goes different way, and does good actually but with time passing comparison in between those two labels would be even more ridicilous.


Hmmm, I actually do know my shit when it comes to business, thanks. No shit Eminem has to sign artists other than lyricists like Slaughterhouse, I said that. Shady Records is awful, other than Em and 50. The talent they sign is a joke. I mean, who doesn't want a Bobby Creekwater album?! Eminem and 50 carry the label. It has made virtually no progress since signing 50. Shady could sign a roster of special ed yodellers and the label would still make bank because it had Eminem. Aftermath is a joke too, they sign great artists and ten have themsit for 5 years without dropping an album. Jay Z knows how to run the music industry, he manages to release solo albums AND actually sign good artists. If EM has time to hop on Nicki MInaj's album he has time to make his label half repectable.
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Re: Eminem: Great artist, awful label owner

Postby FreeSpeech » Nov 22nd, '10, 04:14

Francesco10 wrote:D12 - Devil's night
Eminem -The Eminem show (Aftermath/Shady)
Eminem - 8 Mile
50 Cent - GRODT (Shady/Aftermath)
Obie - Cheers
D12 - D12 World
Eminem - Encore
50 Cent - The Massacre (Shady/Aftermath)
Eminem - Curtain call (Aftermath/Shady)
Obie - Second rounds on me
Shady Records - Eminem presents The Re-up
Cashis - The county hound EP
50 Cent - Curtis (Shady/Aftermath)
Eminem - Relapse (Aftermath/Shady)
50 Cent - BISD (Shady/Aftermath)
Eminem - Recovery (Aftermath/Shady)

This is Shady, and I won't even bother to talk about numbers to you. If that's awful and Aftermath and Shady is a joke in your opinion, then you're definitely semi retarded.
If Jay Z knows how to run the music industry how come then Shady has sold 3 times as much and more than what Jay, Roca-fella and Roc Nation have sold all toghether. Jay Z is all about money, unlike Eminem and he still always dreamed of having a label like Shady, comercial wise. If you didn't know a lot of his label projects flopped, even with good artists having those albums.


Every single one of those releases is 50 or Em (He obviously carries D12 sales) or Obie. And Obie left because he felt stifled. I thought his albums were dope, but neither got promoted how they should have, and he's sunken into obscurity since. 50 and Em obviosly will have massive sales, regardless of the label. Face it, Em is a great artist, bad label owner. He and Dre both sign artists, let them sit for years, then drop them. Bishop Lamont had huge, huge hype and some great songs. He was Dre's next protege after Em. How'd that turn out?
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Re: Eminem: Great artist, awful label owner

Postby shadyboymez » Nov 22nd, '10, 04:16

EM-DZ wrote:Drake is one of the biggest dudes out right now, :facepalm2
Disney rapper :facepalm


amenn to that. Drake just doesn't impress me, neither does the entire young money scam
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Re: Eminem: Great artist, awful label owner

Postby FreeSpeech » Nov 22nd, '10, 04:18

For more proof Shady Records is a joke, check out their website. They have a little banner that goes by with Obie Trice and Stat Quos names on it. They both left in 2008.
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Re: Eminem: Great artist, awful label owner

Postby flyingmonkey10 » Nov 22nd, '10, 04:37

the title of the thread says it all :coffee:
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Re: Eminem: Great artist, awful label owner

Postby XLJ » Nov 22nd, '10, 05:17

His label has sold over 40 million albums worldwide. I think he has a very sucuessful label.
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Re: Eminem: Great artist, awful label owner

Postby Alaine » Nov 22nd, '10, 06:00

lol the label sucks period, I don't wanna talk about quality here since this is business thing, they simply don't have ANY marketable artist (say what you want about YM, they are very marketable & know how to keep themselves hot) And it's not even Eminem running the label, check your info first, it's Paul who is actually running the label, Eminem is just the name.
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Re: Eminem: Great artist, awful label owner

Postby Rash J » Nov 22nd, '10, 06:47

I agree. That label is collecting dust. One thing I always wondered was that Em founded Shady Records just to sign D12 yes? Why not just introduce them to Dre? Unless Dre didn't think they were dope and hence Em made his own label.
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Re: Eminem: Great artist, awful label owner

Postby mecuryball » Nov 22nd, '10, 11:52

most people don't even know slim da mobstar is on shady records,i haven't even hear this dude rap.can someone please tell me where i can listen or download any of his song.
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Re: Eminem: Great artist, awful label owner

Postby Hiphopdane » Nov 22nd, '10, 14:44

I know the label is kind of old now but he has just been in rehab and is now trying to sign Slaughterhouse (plus a few other acts according to his manager) so something is definitely under the way.

Another Re-up? With those rappers currently signed to the label that's the last thing I want right now. Make such an album when his solo career is over and he has made it a big ass label.

Actually I'm looking forward to seeing what is going to happen at the label when he retires. His name alone is enough to attract a lot of good rappers, I guess. He is also quite rich and has access to beats from all kind of great producers (well, including his own).

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^^They have actually released quite a lot.
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