Recovery is Very Fucking Good...

[Fa-Q]

lyrically, it's his best album to date.

I just coughed up a english muffin when you said that

Yeah yeah..recoverys...ok...umm
Do you have the video in your picture?
nahh jokes.
Recoverys a step in the right direction. His next album will decide his legacy in my opinion.

Best pics/videos of her
http://denisemilani.ws/

[EminemBase]

I agree Embase except that I've always loved the album lol. There are some parts of the album that are weaker than others and it does seem a bit random compared to his other albums but it's still an amazing album.

I've always liked it too. Like I said in the original post.

I'm just making a post asserting that and that my liking of it only seems to improve with age now. Always liked it though, just sounded extra awesome today for some reason.

[Hiphopdane]

I've listened to it since it came out. If Eminem was a new rapper and this was his debut album, it would have got much more praise in the media.

The only real flaws are the amount of producers and the singing on You're never over. The hooks, apart from YNO, have never bothered me at all.

[Cam_24]

Recovery is fucking dope, I've been bumping it since it liked.

[Fa-Q]

Recovery is fucking dope, I've been bumping it since it liked.

Yea I was so happy when it liked too

[Alaine]

still my favorite album of the year and I listen to loads of music

[Solace]

Recovery is fucking dope, I've been bumping it since it liked.

Yea I was so happy when it liked too

lolololololololo

[katha]

There's definitely some of that.

I wouldn't like to use that as an excuse for a bad review but some of the critics make it so obvious. They're so lame and bad at hiding it.

Yeah, I think you can definitely tell the difference between a review that really looks at the songs and finds them wanting and someone just using the review to restate his/her own prejudices. Some of the stuff that was written about his first three albums was just embarassing: Practically nothing about the music, only about what a "Bad Role Model" he is. Because that's what art should be about, squeaky clean feel good messages that don't ever question anything.

And then many people just really don't get it. This is what Slant Magazine had to say about TES:
http://www.slantmagazine.com/music/review/eminem-the-eminem-show/64

At times, Eminem speaks for anyone who didn't blindly wave the stars and stripes in the wake of 9/11. On the scathing "White America," he defiantly vows to "spit liquor in the face of this democracy of hypocrisy" (though he unfortunately ends the track with a safe apologia)

It's a positive review, the writer mostly praises the album. But ultimately it's rather useless anyway, isn't it? I mean, is his irony and sarcasm really that hard to spot? Or is it because he's perceived as "trailer trash" that many won't admit how smart and complex the stuff he does is?

Look at the current praise orgy for Kanye West. It's a really good album IMO and I don't begrudge him the acclaim, but I'm sure that the hipster demographic feels comfortable embracing him at least partly because his presentation practically screams "Look at me! I'm a very important artist doing very serious artistic things!". Where are all the complaints about his depiction of women? See, when he does it it's "artistic", when Steely Dan write about pedophilia, it's "artistic", when Eminem does it, he must mean it literally, oh my god, won't anybody think of the children!!! Bah. Hypocrisy in its purest form.

[Alaine]

^ Eminem sucks now + Kayne is God = cool hipster


lol jk I don't mind if some people actually think that, as long as that's what they really think themselves & not because it's cool to think so. I freaking hate those people that don't have their own opinions & change them based on what others say are "cool"

[Fa-Q]

There's definitely some of that.

I wouldn't like to use that as an excuse for a bad review but some of the critics make it so obvious. They're so lame and bad at hiding it.

Yeah, I think you can definitely tell the difference between a review that really looks at the songs and finds them wanting and someone just using the review to restate his/her own prejudices. Some of the stuff that was written about his first three albums was just embarassing: Practically nothing about the music, only about what a "Bad Role Model" he is. Because that's what art should be about, squeaky clean feel good messages that don't ever question anything.

And then many people just really don't get it. This is what Slant Magazine had to say about TES:
http://www.slantmagazine.com/music/review/eminem-the-eminem-show/64

At times, Eminem speaks for anyone who didn't blindly wave the stars and stripes in the wake of 9/11. On the scathing "White America," he defiantly vows to "spit liquor in the face of this democracy of hypocrisy" (though he unfortunately ends the track with a safe apologia)

It's a positive review, the writer mostly praises the album. But ultimately it's rather useless anyway, isn't it? I mean, is his irony and sarcasm really that hard to spot? Or is it because he's perceived as "trailer trash" that many won't admit how smart and complex the stuff he does is?

Look at the current praise orgy for Kanye West. It's a really good album IMO and I don't begrudge him the acclaim, but I'm sure that the hipster demographic feels comfortable embracing him at least partly because his presentation practically screams "Look at me! I'm a very important artist doing very serious artistic things!". Where are all the complaints about his depiction of women? See, when he does it it's "artistic", when Steely Dan write about pedophilia, it's "artistic", when Eminem does it, he must mean it literally, oh my god, won't anybody think of the children!!! Bah. Hypocrisy in its purest form.

I wonder how much they really listened to the album when they called Obie Trice "Opie Trice"....lol this reminds me of the Maximum Eminem CD when they called Obie O-Bo Trice....

[slimsoxshady]

best album since Tech N9ne's Everready back in 2006 for me

[SweT]

Amen!

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Recovery seems consistent for what it is.

It has no story,but it has a variety of good to great songs.

only classics on it are Almost Famous and On Fire.

[EminemBase]

Recovery seems consistent for what it is.

It has no story,but it has a variety of good to great songs.

only classics on it are Almost Famous and On Fire.

None of his albums have stories.

Only difference is his other albums had a consistent sound. It's the coherency and consistency of the production as well as the songs that make the alum sound 'one'.

The Marshall Mathers LP had no story. It was just pure reactionary social commentary, in random bursts, but it was so coherent and... intentionally bigoted that it felt totally complete and 'one'. Same with The Eminem Show. There's no story though, the production is just very consistent and collective.

Where as Recovery, its hand-picked beats so it sounds kind of random. But in terms of lyrical themes, it's still very consistent / just as much as any of his others. Consistent in terms of 'themes' he's going along. He contradicts himself but he always does, but the basic theme(s) - Recovery / back on top / back better than ever etc. are prevalent throughout.

And every song sounds like it should be on the album.

In comparison to the last two in which there was at least two on each that sounded out of place and ruined the album(s). Particularly on Relapse though with "Beautiful" and "Crack a Bottle", because everything else was so coherent that they just stand out like a green hat with an orange bill.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

I've liked it since it came out and have been listening to it on and off since then too. I go through different periods with it. But right now, just listening to my favourite tracks again, it's a very solid album. And the good material is really fucking good.

I do think that, given the fact it was his 'comeback' and all the attention and expectations etc. that neither Relapse or Recovery were truly looked at with a sober eye. Not to say I think he was done a critical disjustice, most were pretty fair.

BUT I do think the appreciation for both will improve majorly overtime. It's already happening with Relapse. People who at first couldn't stand it have since stopped protesting it on the grounds of content and actually listened to it, all seem to like it a lot more.

I'm not saying btw that Recovery touches the sides of the first three. But it's a very solid album. There isn't a weak track on it, and every track sounds like it should be there. It's just the sporadic production that makes it feel kind of... aimless / random.

I do the same thing, listen to it off and on. He worked hard on this album, and I hate how some people just dismiss it because it's not TES part 2. It's not as good as TES, but the songs are good songs, I don't see how anyone can hate them. The rhyming may have gone down slightly, but the content and song quality are top notch