The significance to the ending of Drug Ballad

[IrishShady]

I mean, this should be OBVIOUS shit once you see it.

Then I remember: This is the same board that contains posters who write things like,

"I'm glad Eminem hatez fags!!!111"

"Encore was actually a very good album!!!111"

"Eminem was always on drugz"

"Eminem haz matured!!!111"

"Stop being negative about Eminem's musik!!!111"


What the fuck was I expecting? Shame on me.

[Satire]

This means Hailie was 2 or 3 years old when he wrote it, depending on whether he wrote it before or after December 25 1998. Probably after in early '99, since I'm guessing he wrote Drug Ballad right after he got snubbed by Mark Wahlberg on TRL while promoting SSLP, and he called him a "fucking faggot" on DB.

Hailie was 4 years old in 99 lol. or older, I forget. She was born in 94 or 95

Edit: December 25, 1995. So yeah, 3 years old. For some reason I thought she was born in January.

[Iris]

EminemInsider, nobody understands eminem like you do. It'd be great if you review all the songs from his first three albums. I'm sure there would be many things we didnt know.

Are you really laughing like that?

[Drug.Ballad]

my joint top fav song

got this from a eminem book about the ending: 'so the sins of the fathers repeat themselves through another generation'.

Its just about Hailie following in his 'footsteps', people go out and get 'smashed', its just a 'party' kinda track about drugs, not much hidden in it.

[DanWS]

I duno why people are giving this dude stick. What he said is definitely plausible. I actually never really interpreted those lyrics in this way. The way you explained it gives a new meaning to me. Props.

[EminemBase]

I don't agree with you.

Those were just tongue in cheek lyrics about the reality of aging and passing glory. And I know you'll respond hurling abuse at me because I don't agree with you but, you have no evidence outside your own belief this is what he was thinking.

I'm not coming back in though as I can't be bothered with a 100 page back and forth. So, think what you want, I personally think this is... and, I'm not usually one to say it as I'm a very analytical person, but this is reading too much into a line.

And there's nothing wrong with 'reading into' lyrics, and in terms of... applying logic, I don't think there's hardly ever 'too much', but this is applying a... subconscious, emotional fear to a lyric, of which there's no evidence for outside of personal conviction. There's an infinite number of possible emotions and thoughts you could apply behind a lyric but unless there's a solid logic, applicable to the actual language and aims on SHOW, it's conjecture and guesswork, and personal belief. Not truth.

This was passive, sarcastic humour - Acknowledging a possible future reality in an ironic, self-deprecating sense. Nothing more.

[EminemBase]

^ Are you speaking to me?

I said I wasn't coming back in but after I edited my post I saw yours.

Because I didn't use the word fabricate.

[EminemBase]

^ Well... do you see the word fabricate in the post? No.

Maybe because the language and points that I made suggest 'fabrication' you thought of it. Either way it's irrelevant as... your post still made no sense.

You defined fabrication as TYPICALLY being deceitful. That means it's not a necessary truth that it is, but you then concluded by assuming it was a necessary truth of the word, and concluded I was implying he was deceitful... As for the daughter / joke thing, I don't know what the fuck you're on about there.

I think you're saying... oh, because he DOESN'T joke about his daughter dying he therefore wouldn't joke about that, therefore it's true. Which is just ridiculous.

Which is going totally off the ball anyway and has zero to do with the core of this argument. You're just trying to start an argument based on semantics, because you agree with the OP and have a personal dislike of me. Stop being silly.

[Fa-Q]

I wonder if Lil Wayne fans over analyze things like this

[EminemBase]

@Amadeo - I used to think you were reasonably smart, even if we disagreed...

That's changed.

The joke wasn't on his daughter, it was on the point of aging fast - passing youth. Obvious in the lines leading upto it - If I could take it all back now I wouldn't, I would've did more shit that people said that I shouldnt.

The line is, as usual - about him. Not Hailie. Hailie was a prop in his life to bring relevancy to the line, you're focusing on the wrong aspect. It's a cocky line about aging and reality. But YOU go on thinking it was Eminem's subconscious fear about Hailie and he was trying to convey a deep serious message about his fears of Hailie's future disaster life

This is fucking ridiculous. I'm not wasting my day on TR going in circles on this nonsense. If it was something worth arguing maybe I'd go back and forth a bit longer, but this is dumb as fuck. Believe what you like, I couldn't care less - the thread's yours. Have a blast.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

lol,chill guys.

[Fa-Q]

That used to be smart line is played

[IVIrIVIurphY]

daaawgs daaaaaaawgs chill

[VenomBlackViper]

Well this was fun, ima go smoke now bye.

[Willy]

Base and Amadeo would be best friends in real life.