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Re: Rap God - Highest Replay Value Song From Eminem in 10 ye

Postby trentimus » Oct 24th, '13, 15:47

4Corners wrote:Naw.....

I'll take Fast Lane over this. Stans really overrate stuff. I'm surprised HTS does't get much love here....even the hip hop heads enjoyed HTS.


I agree with 4Corners for the most part.. I felt most of HTS was just punchline, double time flow too though.. Em is getting one dimensional post-Relpase (to me) Rap God is just Em being Em over the past few years.. Just showcasing his abilities but not actually making great music. I respect the artistic risk in Berzerk, that and my ear isn't broken.. the song is just ridiculously awesome musically.

Berzerk>Rap God>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Survival

Relapse was dope AFTER the year it released.. I didn't initially enjoy it but Underground, Same Song and Dance, Beautiful, the list goes on from replayable songs.

Rap God is dope, don't get me wrong.. :worship: perfection of his double-time use since that Forever verse.
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Re: Rap God - Highest Replay Value Song From Eminem in 10 ye

Postby 4Corners » Oct 24th, '13, 15:51

trentimus wrote:
4Corners wrote:Naw.....

I'll take Fast Lane over this. Stans really overrate stuff. I'm surprised HTS does't get much love here....even the hip hop heads enjoyed HTS.


I agree with 4Corners for the most part.. I felt most of HTS was just punchline, double time flow too though.. Em is getting one dimensional post-Relpase (to me) Rap God is just Em being Em over the past few years.. Just showcasing his abilities but not actually making great music. I respect the artistic risk in Berzerk, that and my ear isn't broken.. the song is just ridiculously awesome musically.

Berzerk>Rap God>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Survival

Relapse was dope AFTER the year it released.. I didn't initially enjoy it but Underground, Same Song and Dance, Beautiful, the list goes on from replayable songs.

Rap God is dope, don't get me wrong.. :worship: perfection of his double-time use since that Forever verse.


We'll see. Recovery wasn't that though, he had different sounds and flows on Recovery though. HTS was basically straight spittin' and IMO it was his best rapping he's done since 8 Mile. A lot of heads agree with that too.

I hope this album doesn't follow that though. I hope he doesn't have the Rap God flow for half the album. I'm worried though. He seems to be either doing the Throw It Up, A Kiss flow or the Richard flow. I'm not too big a fan of those.
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Re: Rap God - Highest Replay Value Song From Eminem in 10 ye

Postby Jimmy Conway » Oct 24th, '13, 15:54

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Jimmy Conway wrote:Most replay value in ten years? No

More replay value than anything post Recovery. But that's not saying a lot.

Name some songs in the past 10 years which make you say that then

The majority of Relapse/Refill is better than this song.
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Re: Rap God - Highest Replay Value Song From Eminem in 10 ye

Postby trentimus » Oct 24th, '13, 16:03

4Corners wrote:
trentimus wrote:
4Corners wrote:Naw.....

I'll take Fast Lane over this. Stans really overrate stuff. I'm surprised HTS does't get much love here....even the hip hop heads enjoyed HTS.


I agree with 4Corners for the most part.. I felt most of HTS was just punchline, double time flow too though.. Em is getting one dimensional post-Relpase (to me) Rap God is just Em being Em over the past few years.. Just showcasing his abilities but not actually making great music. I respect the artistic risk in Berzerk, that and my ear isn't broken.. the song is just ridiculously awesome musically.

Berzerk>Rap God>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Survival

Relapse was dope AFTER the year it released.. I didn't initially enjoy it but Underground, Same Song and Dance, Beautiful, the list goes on from replayable songs.

Rap God is dope, don't get me wrong.. :worship: perfection of his double-time use since that Forever verse.


We'll see. Recovery wasn't that though, he had different sounds and flows on Recovery though. HTS was basically straight spittin' and IMO it was his best rapping he's done since 8 Mile. A lot of heads agree with that too.

I hope this album doesn't follow that though. I hope he doesn't have the Rap God flow for half the album. I'm worried though. He seems to be either doing the Throw It Up, A Kiss flow or the Richard flow. I'm not too big a fan of those.


Recovery he straight up abused the screaming delivery and double time flow IMO.. Wore it straight TF out.

HTS was definitely just a display of how well he can RAP. That's fo sho

I am trying to imagine how different he sounds on Rap God vs Berzerk vs Survival that this dude is gonna bring a varied flow.. One HUGE thing I took from Rap God is that HE PROVED THAT HE CAN SLOW DOWN AND ACTUALLY SPIT WITH A NORMAL VOICE AGAIN.(I know that sounds odd but if you listen when he slows down it sounds amazing how normal his voice is lol..)

God I miss the slow, gritty raps.. please #RapGod, please give us gritty slow-flow Em. I figure he listened to MMLP so he knows he was gritty and just euphoric with his flow back in the day vs straight aggressive and fast paced.

I can be WORRIED but I hope Eminem really has drawn from his inner artist to bring everything he has on this album, and that means NOT just being a great TECHNICAL rapper because that's ALL he gave me on Recovery TBH.. This is the album where I am like FUCK being technical just give me some great music.. We all KNOW Eminem has put together some of the most ridiculous raps ever on a technical level, nothing to prove in that regard anymore.
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Re: Rap God - Highest Replay Value Song From Eminem in 10 ye

Postby 4Corners » Oct 24th, '13, 16:09

trentimus wrote:
Recovery he straight up abused the screaming delivery and double time flow IMO.. Wore it straight TF out.

HTS was definitely just a display of how well he can RAP. That's fo sho

I am trying to imagine how different he sounds on Rap God vs Berzerk vs Survival that this dude is gonna bring a varied flow.. One HUGE thing I took from Rap God is that HE PROVED THAT HE CAN SLOW DOWN AND ACTUALLY SPIT WITH A NORMAL VOICE AGAIN.(I know that sounds odd but if you listen when he slows down it sounds amazing how normal his voice is lol..)

God I miss the slow, gritty raps.. please #RapGod, please give us gritty slow-flow Em. I figure he listened to MMLP so he knows he was gritty and just euphoric with his flow back in the day vs straight aggressive and fast paced.

I can be WORRIED but I hope Eminem really has drawn from his inner artist to bring everything he has on this album, and that means NOT just being a great TECHNICAL rapper because that's ALL he gave me on Recovery TBH.. This is the album where I am like FUCK being technical just give me some great music.. We all KNOW Eminem has put together some of the most ridiculous raps ever on a technical level, nothing to prove in that regard anymore.


I think even after Recovery, he's been on this overly technical kick. That's what I said about Rap God and people shit on me a little. He's overly technical lately almost a fault.

But I mean Recovery had different sounds still. On Fire, WTP, Going Through Changes, Not Afraid, Space Bound, Ridaz, So Bad, Almost Famous, etc.

I wish Em would spit like he did on Ridaz, So Bad, On Fire, etc.
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Re: Rap God - Highest Replay Value Song From Eminem in 10 ye

Postby trentimus » Oct 24th, '13, 16:16

It really seems like that is my issue with him.. he's been OVERLY technical since his rehab.. Like the accent issue on Relapse, just raining punchlines and double-time flow on Recovery, HTS was a better balance but he is still more focused on making complex rhymes than anything else it feels. Rap God I am down with because it was made pretty clear that he was showcasing his flows and ability as a rappity-rapper .. plus Berzerk is the polar opposite so I remain optimistic about MMLP2.

I am fully with your last line. Spit like that- but gritty lyrics and that's Prime-Em to me.
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Re: Rap God - Highest Replay Value Song From Eminem in 10 ye

Postby 4Corners » Oct 24th, '13, 16:23

trentimus wrote:It really seems like that is my issue with him.. he's been OVERLY technical since his rehab.. Like the accent issue on Relapse, just raining punchlines and double-time flow on Recovery, HTS was a better balance but he is still more focused on making complex rhymes than anything else it feels. Rap God I am down with because it was made pretty clear that he was showcasing his flows and ability as a rappity-rapper .. plus Berzerk is the polar opposite so I remain optimistic about MMLP2.

I am fully with your last line. Spit like that- but gritty lyrics and that's Prime-Em to me.


He doesn't seem to realize that when he's not trying so so so hard....it comes off so natural and still dope.

Beautiful, Underground from Relapse are good examples to me. Or even My Darling too. Examples from Recovery are On Fire, Ridaz, So Bad, Untitled. Other examples for me are the 2011 BET CYPHER and 2011 Westwood freestyle.

Sure....there's times the fast paced flow and overly technical lyrics stuff sounds dope, and it does a lot of times. Forever, Drop the World, No Love, Seduction, Fast Lane, Welcome 2 Hell, Loud Noises, Above the Law, etc. But it's not quite as dope as the other stuff I mentioned IMO.

And don't get me started on the accents. I thought they worked well on 3am, Stay Wide Awake, Same Song & Dance, and I actually really loved Drop the Bomb On Em, etc. But he would have been far better off doing a hint of the accent, but a more normalized voice, like Deja Vu, Elevator, Music Box, etc.

Honestly......if the album as far as spitting sounded like Ridaz, On Fire, So Bad, Untitled, Underground, I'd be thoroughly happy and it would probably be his best album hands down since TES.
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Re: Rap God - Highest Replay Value Song From Eminem in 10 ye

Postby 4Corners » Oct 24th, '13, 16:28

A highly rated TR moderator actually said Relapse is overrated......I really thought I was going to have a heart attack for a second. Couldn't agree more.

Relapse went from hated to overrated as fuck by fans, and Recovery went from being overrated and hailed a classic for some reason, to completely underrated in about a year.
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Re: Rap God - Highest Replay Value Song From Eminem in 10 ye

Postby trentimus » Oct 24th, '13, 16:35

Relapse is definitely not a classic.. but the production is near perfect and Em from a technical stand point was probably in one of his finest moments.. but again.. it was overly technical to a fault... it just wasn't great music.

There are some AMAZING songs on Relapse though.. and Recovery's issue is mainly production, and it's hard to replay a song that he is screaming 100% of the time.. that's I guess obvious in the fact I like Ridaz, On Fire, Seduction.. tracks where he toned it down best.

Like I said the best thing i got from Rap God is that he can use his normal voice.. that IMO is priceless..
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Re: Rap God - Highest Replay Value Song From Eminem in 10 ye

Postby trentimus » Oct 24th, '13, 16:35

Relapse is definitely not a classic.. but the production is near perfect and Em from a technical stand point was probably in one of his finest moments.. but again.. it was overly technical to a fault... it just wasn't great music.

There are some AMAZING songs on Relapse though.. and Recovery's issue is mainly production, and it's hard to replay a song that he is screaming 100% of the time.. that's I guess obvious in the fact I like Ridaz, On Fire, Seduction.. tracks where he toned it down best.

Like I said the best thing i got from Rap God is that he can use his normal voice.. that IMO is priceless..
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Re: Rap God - Highest Replay Value Song From Eminem in 10 ye

Postby trentimus » Oct 24th, '13, 16:35

Relapse is definitely not a classic.. but the production is near perfect and Em from a technical stand point was probably in one of his finest moments.. but again.. it was overly technical to a fault... it just wasn't great music.

There are some AMAZING songs on Relapse though.. and Recovery's issue is mainly production, and it's hard to replay a song that he is screaming 100% of the time.. that's I guess obvious in the fact I like Ridaz, On Fire, Seduction.. tracks where he toned it down best.

Like I said the best thing i got from Rap God is that he can use his normal voice.. that IMO is priceless..
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Re: Rap God - Highest Replay Value Song From Eminem in 10 ye

Postby 4Corners » Oct 24th, '13, 16:36

Menzo wrote:
4Corners wrote:A highly rated TR moderator actually said Relapse is overrated......I really thought I was going to have a heart attack for a second. Couldn't agree more.

Relapse went from hated to overrated as fuck by fans, and Recovery went from being overrated and hailed a classic for some reason, to completely underrated in about a year.


I love Relapse, but the overwhelming appraisal here is really a huge turn off and makes me see how much of a classic it isn't. It's an enjoyable album, slick flows and amazing beats coupled with great rhyming and some nifty concepts but that's all.


I have noticed by now I differ in terms of taste when it comes to newer Em, with the people here, but I agree.

There's some stuff on Relapse I really love, and some stuff I really dislike. He's got great wordplay and rhymes as always, but the accent was too much for me. I really wish he would have used the full blown accent on maybe 3-4 tracks at most, and used the hint of the accent with a normal voice like on Music Box, Elevator, Deja Vu. Deja Vu is probably one of my favorite Em hooks of all time.
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Re: Rap God - Highest Replay Value Song From Eminem in 10 ye

Postby dR3 » Oct 24th, '13, 16:39

I think Deja Vu and Same Song & Dance have greater replay value. We'll see how this holds up in three years lmao, it's still too early to tell.
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Re: Rap God - Highest Replay Value Song From Eminem in 10 ye

Postby skc_ » Oct 24th, '13, 16:39

so far listened to the song 1 time
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Re: Rap God - Highest Replay Value Song From Eminem in 10 ye

Postby 4Corners » Oct 24th, '13, 16:41

trentimus wrote:Relapse is definitely not a classic.. but the production is near perfect and Em from a technical stand point was probably in one of his finest moments.. but again.. it was overly technical to a fault... it just wasn't great music.

There are some AMAZING songs on Relapse though.. and Recovery's issue is mainly production, and it's hard to replay a song that he is screaming 100% of the time.. that's I guess obvious in the fact I like Ridaz, On Fire, Seduction.. tracks where he toned it down best.

Like I said the best thing i got from Rap God is that he can use his normal voice.. that IMO is priceless..


The problem is Em can't put it all 100% together like he did on SSLP, MMLP, TES, and to a lesser degree, 8 Mile. Encore had some gems and his worst shit ever to go along with it. Relapse had some dope stuff, but he seemed content on doing an accent 90% of the time that really missed with the overwhelming majority IMO. Recovery had some great rhyming, but he used the worst production he's ever used for that album.

HTS was the closest for me. Welcome 2 Hell, Fast Lane, Above the Law, Loud Noises, Living Proof was fire to me. Than he had the slower but still funny in a dark way stuff like Reunion, another comedic song with the drugs I'm On Everything, where he and Royce went HAM in the end. And a girl hook on a Khalil beat which actually sounded dope as fuck, Echo.

But....he still had Lighters and Take From Me on HTS, which keeps it from being incredible for me.
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