MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

[Ares]

It's easily better than Encore (obviously) and Recovery.

Not Relapse doe.

MMLP2 is so much better than Relapse.

It's EminemBase. What did you expect?

[cityfan31]

MMLP
TES
Relapse
SSLP
MMLP2 - Recovery
Encore

[yoda you can call me]

To much to read on my phone but i wholeheartedly agree with op

[Mr Change]

Yeah I think is significantly better than Relapse...

[Mathers]

TES
MMLP
SSLP
MMLP2
Relapse
Recovery
Encore

[EminemBase]

It's easily better than Encore (obviously) and Recovery.

Not Relapse doe.

MMLP2 is so much better than Relapse.

Not so much better, but perhaps conceptually and lyrically.

Nah, conceptually how is it better?

It's a very vague 'revisitation of some of those themes'... for the sake of a #2...

Where as Relapse is a fictional murderous drug-induced relapse - taking the real-life relapse of his drug addiction as fuel to feed this concept. It's classic.

I don't see how it's lyrically better either. Relapse lyricism is amazing.

[Kill You]

As in his concepts were better. And the lyricism, he rhymes just as good on MMLP2 as Relapse and he is actually saying things...idk how to explain it but that's how I feel.

[Mr Change]

I don't see how it's lyrically better either. Relapse lyricism is amazing.

Relapse is full of rhymes, yes. But these rhymes hardly have any substance to them, they're so cheap...random accented words that otherwise wouldn't fit (but somehow it's forced if normal/screaming Eminem does it), murderous sprees were he can literally pick words out of a hat and add them into the story...finishing lines with 'ah' and other sounds to even out the syllables...

[Ares]

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MMLP2 is so much better than Relapse.

Not so much better, but perhaps conceptually and lyrically.

Nah, conceptually how is it better?

It's a very vague 'revisitation of some of those themes'... for the sake of a #2...

Where as Relapse is a fictional murderous drug-induced relapse - taking the real-life relapse of his drug addiction as fuel to feed this concept. It's classic.

I don't see how it's lyrically better either. Relapse lyricism is amazing.

Lyricism is amazing but content is shitty. imo

Only Deja Vu is classic worthy.

[momentsgolden]

I would hesitate to put it above Recovery just yet. That album sounded GREAT on first listen to me and there is a reason it resonated with a large number of his fans. He was still rapping some pretty incredible lines on there mixed with some awful puns.

MMLP2 still has the "pretty" hooks people hated on Recovery. There are still some awful puns on it. The screaming has been replaced by complaints of a choppy flow. The contrived content has been replaced by no new content.

Of the singles, LTWYL >> the monster

No Love>> Love Game

GTC>>> Headlights.

So, to me, its on the Recovery level of dopeness. Which edges who still tryna figure out.

That said, Bad Meets Evil is better than all 4 IMO.

[Kill You]

MMLP2 > Relapse > BME > Recovery

[metsfan1121]

MMLP>TES>SSLP>MMLP2>Encore>Recovery>HTS>Relapse

[EminemBase]

I don't see how it's lyrically better either. Relapse lyricism is amazing.

Relapse is full of rhymes, yes. But these rhymes hardly have any substance to them, they're so cheap...random accented words that otherwise wouldn't fit (but somehow it's forced if normal/screaming Eminem does it), murderous sprees were he can literally pick words out of a hat and add them into the story...finishing lines with 'ah' and other sounds to even out the syllables...

That's absolutely not true @ no substance.

If you take lines like...

"Slipped and fell, hit his back-bone, heard something go crack
Now he's up in the bathroom like he's busting a nap
Almost ended it that soon because of the fact ; I'm just busting my own chops while I'm bustin a rap"

It feels like most people just decided Relapse was rape and overlook every other element about it. In this little section... he's taking the piss out of his situation whilst using his life as fuel for the rhymes... this is what he used to do which made him so brilliant.

Rather than just going 'I collapsed from drugs. Shit was bad' blah blah, he parodies the situation and uses lyricism as a jumping off-point for reference...

Relapse is chock-full of this. It's witty as fuck. Yes there's some stupid lines in there, and he's provoking for the sake of it, but that's the point... he's relapsing in to a nutty state, which becomes the excuse for the provocation.

He basically walks that line of blurring reality with fiction properly again, like he does on "My Mom", which is similar to "Brain Damage" in that it takes a real story or concept from his life and turns it in to a clearly exaggerated storytelling scenario, allowing him much more freedom of expression with his description, voice acting, scenes etc.

Relapse mixes a lot of self-reference with self-parody and the writing style is so witty in how he phrases things in reference to himself as a character...

And that remains totally consistent throughout up until and including "Deja Vu".

[Kill You]

As albums:

TES > MMLP > SSLP > MMLP2 > Relapse > Hell: The Sequel (fuck it, I'm adding it) > Recovery > Encore

My personals:

TES > MMLP > MMLP2 > Relapse > SSLP > H:TS > Recovery > Encore

[Ares]

My list:
MMLP>TES>SSLP=MMLP2>RELAPSE/RECOVERY>ENCORE