Recovery is Very Fucking Good...

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Recovery seems consistent for what it is.

It has no story,but it has a variety of good to great songs.

only classics on it are Almost Famous and On Fire.

None of his albums have stories.

Only difference is his other albums had a consistent sound. It's the coherency and consistency of the production as well as the songs that make the alum sound 'one'.

The Marshall Mathers LP had no story. It was just pure reactionary social commentary, in random bursts, but it was so coherent and... intentionally bigoted that it felt totally complete and 'one'. Same with The Eminem Show. There's no story though, the production is just very consistent and collective.

Where as Recovery, its hand-picked beats so it sounds kind of random. But in terms of lyrical themes, it's still very consistent / just as much as any of his others. Consistent in terms of 'themes' he's going along. He contradicts himself but he always does, but the basic theme(s) - Recovery / back on top / back better than ever etc. are prevalent throughout.

And every song sounds like it should be on the album.

In comparison to the last two in which there was at least two on each that sounded out of place and ruined the album(s). Particularly on Relapse though with "Beautiful" and "Crack a Bottle", because everything else was so coherent that they just stand out like a green hat with an orange bill.

I really meant to write message,but i typed out story man.

yes recovery is random

[xxTrigger1989xx]

I can imagine the Recovery haters in this thread now...

"Recovery is garbage, anyone who likes it doesn't like good music"

[Devil'sAdvocate]

I can imagine the Recovery haters in this thread now...

"Recovery is garbage, anyone who likes it doesn't like good music"

im so happy class aint here.

[DanWS]

I still can't place Recovery on my "top Em albums" list. Sometime's I think it could sit 2nd in the list, other times 4th. I constantly change my mind between it being better/worse than the SSLP and TES - is it above them, in between them or below them? It changes from day to day. It's still to early for me to decide. Hell I still juggle Relapse and Encore.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

I can imagine the Recovery haters in this thread now...

"Recovery is garbage, anyone who likes it doesn't like good music"

im so happy class aint here.

Haha, that's exactly who I thought of when I wrote that little quote. I'm fairly sure that's what he would say, or something like it

[Decnent]

Relapse/Refill and Recovery are both great contributions to hip hop.

Like people say it probably won't touch TES, SSLP, or MMLP but to some people it does. It's all a matter of opinion and I don't think they were weak albums at all! Em only made Recovery filled with so many punchlines to prove he is better than Wayne/Drake and all the other fake bitches that somehow got to the top of the rap game.

[MikeNUFC]

I hate mainstream reviews of any rap albums. The reviewers never have a clue about the genre, it's ridiculous - they based their opinions purely on the beats/content. I still dont understand why Kanye's album is getting ridiculous reviews - it's got good production but NOTHING else.

I like Recovery but it lacks replay value to me. Plus it sounds so unnatural/forced compared to Relapse.

[Drucifer]

I hate mainstream reviews of any rap albums. The reviewers never have a clue about the genre, it's ridiculous - they based their opinions purely on the beats/content. I still dont understand why Kanye's album is getting ridiculous reviews - it's got good production but NOTHING else.

I like Recovery but it lacks replay value to me. Plus it sounds so unnatural/forced compared to Relapse.

I see it the other way actually, when I hear Relapse it felt like he was just doing what everybody expected him to do, Relapse felt like Jimmy Iovine came in and said "Controversy sells marshall, diss some more pop stars and rap about murder or your fired"......... the whole album kinda had this "Why am I still doing this" vibe to it, even in his interviews he seemed un-intrested as fuck last year........

[MikeNUFC]

I hate mainstream reviews of any rap albums. The reviewers never have a clue about the genre, it's ridiculous - they based their opinions purely on the beats/content. I still dont understand why Kanye's album is getting ridiculous reviews - it's got good production but NOTHING else.

I like Recovery but it lacks replay value to me. Plus it sounds so unnatural/forced compared to Relapse.

I see it the other way actually, when I hear Relapse it felt like he was just doing what everybody expected him to do, Relapse felt like Jimmy Iovine came in and said "Controversy sells marshall, diss some more pop stars and rap about murder or your fired"......... the whole album kinda had this "Why am I still doing this" vibe to it, even in his interviews he seemed un-intrested as fuck last year........

He recorded shit loads of tracks with Dre in 2008 after he got sober, before an album was even decided on, so I doubt he was forced to by Jimmy. We Made You obviously was but you could say that about his first 4 albums as well. It has it's desperate moments, without doubt but it seemed like he wanted to make it - his flows and rhymes just felt like Em. Not as good as prime-Em but felt natural.

He decided on the style of Recovery mainly due to the fans moaning about an accent. I also remember shit loads of rumours a few months after Relapse came out that Interscope had told Em that he needed to make more tracks like Beautiful (ie emotional) - this was before it was announced he'd scrapped Relapse 2. Might not be true but seems like a weird coincidence.

Not Afraid is one of the most un-Eminem like songs I've heard from him when he wasn't addicted.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

MikeNUFC spits the truth

yes he does.

[CLV22798]

I understand why people don't like Recovery, but I honestly think it's his best album to date. In saying that, I love his first 3 albums. IMO, It is the best 3 album stretch of any artist I've ever heard. Each album set out to top the last one, and I think Eminem succeeded in doing that. Ever since The Eminem Show was released in 2002, I have been waiting for the next classic album from Eminem. From the moment I heard Recovery from beginning to end, I knew it was my favorite album he's ever done. There's not one track I don't like from there, which I can't say for any of his past albums. I've also seen other people hate on the production, but I personally loved it. I liked the fact he worked with new producers instead of always sticking by Dre.

[buffalo bill]

MikeNUFC spits the truth

As usual.

[JotaMF]

I understand why people don't like Recovery, but I honestly think it's his best album to date. In saying that, I love his first 3 albums. IMO, It is the best 3 album stretch of any artist I've ever heard. Each album set out to top the last one, and I think Eminem succeeded in doing that. Ever since The Eminem Show was released in 2002, I have been waiting for the next classic album from Eminem. From the moment I heard Recovery from beginning to end, I knew it was my favorite album he's ever done. There's not one track I don't like from there, which I can't say for any of his past albums. I've also seen other people hate on the production, but I personally loved it. I liked the fact he worked with new producers instead of always sticking by Dre.

Aw man i envy you ....

[Manny_Boi]

Recovery would be a great album if it didn't have tracks like W.T.P.(seriously a disgrace to listen to just on the content alone) and WBD. Those 2 songs felt like really bad fillers to me. When Eminem said he was wishing to make the perfect album, I seriously hope he didn't think Recovery is anywhere near it.

[IVIrIVIurphY]

Recovery made me appreciate Relapse a lot more.

me to for some reason, i really like recovery as well