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Re: Am I the only one who find leaks annoying?

Postby Evan C. » Dec 28th, '10, 21:47

Hiphopdane wrote:The recent leaks just show how greedy and close-minded people are.

Funny how this Koloo idiot says on his Twitter that Encore only made it easier for him to leak Topless. If it wasn't for assholes such as himself, Encore wouldn't be that bad (and this is not meant to be discussion about that album). Same thing happened to Nas' I am; the album was going to be another classic from him untill people leaked some of the best stuff from the album months before release (tracks later ended up on The Lost Tapes). In both cases the leaked tracks got replaced with stuff that wasn't half as good.

And a big fat :facepalm at you acting like a thug on your Twitter.

Encore was going to be a disaster regardless...are you fucking serious? It was an album made by a drug addict just fucking around in the studio. The bonus tracks that did leak early are overrated and don't compare to his earlier work...the guy was a disaster waiting to happen at that point.
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Re: Am I the only one who find leaks annoying?

Postby 1TS OK4Y » Dec 28th, '10, 21:49


So what is your point? That Lil Wayne has never had anything leaked that he wanted to release on one of his albums? Even if that is, fair enough. I'm talking about tracks that was meant to be on albums that would have made the ALBUMS better.

Please....

Carter 3 was redone maybe 10 times because the leaks. And why do you care about an album? If you have the music you have it, doesn't matter if it's on an album or leaked.
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Re: Am I the only one who find leaks annoying?

Postby Hiphopdane » Dec 28th, '10, 21:50

Evan C. wrote:Encore was going to be a disaster regardless...are you fucking serious? It was an album made by a drug addict just fucking around in the studio. The bonus tracks that did leak early are overrated and don't compare to his earlier work...the guy was a disaster waiting to happen at that point.


Ehm... The tracks that leaked were better than a lot of those that made the final cut.

I never said that it would be a great album or anything.
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Re: Am I the only one who find leaks annoying?

Postby Hiphopdane » Dec 28th, '10, 21:53

1TS OK4Y wrote:

So what is your point? That Lil Wayne has never had anything leaked that he wanted to release on one of his albums? Even if that is, fair enough. I'm talking about tracks that was meant to be on albums that would have made the ALBUMS better.

Please....

Carter 3 was redone maybe 10 times because the leaks. And why do you care about an album? If you have the music you have it, doesn't matter if it's on an album or leaked.


Because I'm one of those who still buy albums to get the cd-quality (which is the best quality you can get) and to support the artists.

EDIT: It also has something to do with the artist's reputation. You gotta respect their art.

"Encore was a bad album"
"Yeah but did you hear the tracks that should have been on the album?"

Nobody would care ^^
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Re: Am I the only one who find leaks annoying?

Postby EminemBase » Dec 28th, '10, 22:04

Well then when you're really annoyed at, is the fact Em / others can't handle the fact people have heard some of the material prior to 'official' release date and therefore make new, lesser material.

People leaking material doesn't literally force Eminem to make new material, and material which isn't as good. He's still the one who makes that choice, so you should be mad at him for making that choice. And mad at him for not recognizing that the new material isn't as good.

Just because the leak(s) may have caused that chain reaction doesn't mean the leaks are to blame for the material not being as good. Em is still the one who made it, and put it on.

So no, I'm mad at Em. For not accepting the fact some leaks WILL happen, it's unavoidable and it's not worth reshaping your fucking album over. And I'm mad at him getting lazy when he does decide to make new material. I can understand the frustration but it's fucking life, act accordingly.

And as for anybody who complains about leaks for them hearing shit early - it's YOUR choice to listen to it or not. You can CHOOSE to ignore every leak and listen as you would if nothing had leaked. You make the choice to indulge in the atmosphere too, so you can't blame anybody for that.

Artists should be fucking flattered that people care enough to even want to leak their material, not annoyed that they are. The frustration that the element of mystery and that revealing of the cloak on X date is destroyed, I can understand - but the flattery that people even care enough to want to do that remains. And you know that you're worth something, as an artist.
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Re: Am I the only one who find leaks annoying?

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Dec 28th, '10, 22:08

EminemBase wrote:Well then when you're really annoyed at, is the fact Em / others can't handle the fact people have heard some of the material prior to 'official' release date and therefore make new, lesser material.

People leaking material doesn't literally force Eminem to make new material, and material which isn't as good. He's still the one who makes that choice, so you should be mad at him for making that choice. And mad at him for not recognizing that the new material isn't as good.

Just because the leak(s) may have caused that chain reaction doesn't mean the leaks are to blame for the material not being as good. Em is still the one who made it, and put it on.

So no, I'm mad at Em. For not accepting the fact some leaks WILL happen, it's unavoidable and it's not worth reshaping your fucking album over. And I'm mad at him getting lazy when he does decide to make new material. I can understand the frustration but it's fucking life, act accordingly.

And as for anybody who complains about leaks for them hearing shit early - it's YOUR choice to listen to it or not. You can CHOOSE to ignore every leak and listen as you would if nothing had leaked. You make the choice to indulge in the atmosphere too, so you can't blame anybody for that.

Artists should be fucking flattered that people care enough to even want to leak their material, not annoyed that they are. The frustration that the element of mystery and that revealing of the cloak on X date is destroyed, I can understand - but the flattery that people even care enough to want to do that remains. And you know that you're worth something, as an artist.


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Re: Am I the only one who find leaks annoying?

Postby RealSickLindley » Dec 28th, '10, 22:09

EminemBase wrote:Well then when you're really annoyed at, is the fact Em / others can't handle the fact people have heard some of the material prior to 'official' release date and therefore make new, lesser material.

People leaking material doesn't literally force Eminem to make new material, and material which isn't as good. He's still the one who makes that choice, so you should be mad at him for making that choice. And mad at him for not recognizing that the new material isn't as good.

Just because the leak(s) may have caused that chain reaction doesn't mean the leaks are to blame for the material not being as good. Em is still the one who made it, and put it on.

So no, I'm mad at Em. For not accepting the fact some leaks WILL happen, it's unavoidable and it's not worth reshaping your fucking album over. And I'm mad at him getting lazy when he does decide to make new material. I can understand the frustration but it's fucking life, act accordingly.

And as for anybody who complains about leaks for them hearing shit early - it's YOUR choice to listen to it or not. You can CHOOSE to ignore every leak and listen as you would if nothing had leaked. You make the choice to indulge in the atmosphere too, so you can't blame anybody for that.

Artists should be fucking flattered that people care enough to even want to leak their material, not annoyed that they are. The frustration that the element of mystery and that revealing of the cloak on X date is destroyed, I can understand - but the flattery that people even care enough to want to do that remains. And you know that you're worth something, as an artist.

I actually agree with you fully. Holy shit.

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Re: Am I the only one who find leaks annoying?

Postby Hiphopdane » Dec 28th, '10, 22:12

Why should I be mad at someone who has done nothing wrong? The hackers on the other hand litteraly steal his art and force him to make new stuff. I know he could just put the leaked tracks on his album but that's not the way it works if you want your album to do well. People want new material, not something they can find on youtube.

And no, nobody forces me to listen to the stuff that leaks. But what choice do people have? It's not going to be on the album anyway when it has made its way to the internet.
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Re: Am I the only one who find leaks annoying?

Postby clarkoggg » Dec 28th, '10, 22:31

Leaks arnt really annoying, fans degrading themselves for a 3 second snippet has to be one of the most pathetic things ive ever seen on this board.
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Re: Am I the only one who find leaks annoying?

Postby BigBangBazinga » Dec 28th, '10, 22:38

Hiphopdane wrote:Why should I be mad at someone who has done nothing wrong? The hackers on the other hand litteraly steal his art and force him to make new stuff. I know he could just put the leaked tracks on his album but that's not the way it works if you want your album to do well. People want new material, not something they can find on youtube.

And no, nobody forces me to listen to the stuff that leaks. But what choice do people have? It's not going to be on the album anyway when it has made its way to the internet.



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Re: Am I the only one who find leaks annoying?

Postby Almostlity » Dec 28th, '10, 22:41

yes, because the way it effects on members.. everyone is a 'little' tense.
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Re: Am I the only one who find leaks annoying?

Postby Bistnal » Dec 29th, '10, 05:10

Nope, I also find it annoying. I like getting new music, but the people who leak it act like they're God and all powerful and try to get people to beg for the music. Not to mention them leaking the songs (especially if they're obviously new and unfinished) just messes with the artist and the songs and upcoming albums from the artist. If it's just old shit that would never be released anyway and is decent, then I don't think it's such a big deal.
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Re: Am I the only one who find leaks annoying?

Postby stillmatic » Dec 29th, '10, 07:02

Hiphopdane wrote:The recent leaks just show how greedy and close-minded people are.

Funny how this Koloo idiot says on his Twitter that Encore only made it easier for him to leak Topless. If it wasn't for assholes such as himself, Encore wouldn't be that bad (and this is not meant to be discussion about that album). Same thing happened to Nas' I am; the album was going to be another classic from him untill people leaked some of the best stuff from the album months before release (tracks later ended up on The Lost Tapes). In both cases the leaked tracks got replaced with stuff that wasn't half as good.

And a big fat :facepalm at you acting like a thug on your Twitter.


This.

The only thing worse than leakers are the leechers encouraging and waiting for them.

Even though I like "syllables", I would much rather have never heard it if Eminem and his people never intended it to be released.

However it doesn't annoy me, it simply angers me.
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Re: Am I the only one who find leaks annoying?

Postby Sho0tinG STar » Dec 29th, '10, 07:05

Fleka wrote:Eminem feat. Dr. Dre-I Need a Plumber (to help me fix these leaks)
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Re: Am I the only one who find leaks annoying?

Postby kiki » Dec 29th, '10, 11:48

I don't think the people who leak are the problem but the people who sell those tracks aka the ones in Em's/Dre's camp. That's what happened to the Encore tracks as well. I hope they "bust" both the sellers and the leakers in this case. You can't just destroy history taking place here, that's wrong. Now for other leaks, let's say Lady Gaga leaks, I don't care but this is just wrong. And it shows that whoever leaks this has no interest in hiphop whatsoever. It took Dre 10 years to get this right and now the tracks get leaked so he ends up putting weak songs on it because he can't make any better songs and there goes the CLASSIC.
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