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Postby Knicky » Nov 2nd, '06, 21:44

All of Ems previous beefs have been quite high profile , so pretty much every1 knos about them only 'real' eminem fans would have heard 'bully' and have read into the lyrics, bully was never publically released, it was only leaked, plus i wouldnt consider

Suge has Irv on a string
And Irv's so nervous that he
Says anything to this man to keep him at bay


as em dissing suge really, and the song is primarily aimed at Benzino/Ja/Irv e.t.c suge really isnt involved in the song at all

well thats what i think neways lol :sweating:
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Postby Knicky » Nov 2nd, '06, 21:46

oooo and also, be pretty hard 4 em 2 remember every single lyric hes ever written, and in 'bully' suges name is mentioned once and the song isnt even aimed at him at all! the entire line is meant to diss irv for being suges bitch! It is not meant to b dissing suge in ne way!
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Postby Inzanity » Nov 2nd, '06, 21:47

Knicky wrote:All of Ems previous beefs have been quite high profile , so pretty much every1 knos about them only 'real' eminem fans would have heard 'bully' and have read into the lyrics, bully was never publically released, it was only leaked, plus i wouldnt consider

Suge has Irv on a string
And Irv's so nervous that he
Says anything to this man to keep him at bay


as em dissing suge really, and the song is primarily aimed at Benzino/Ja/Irv e.t.c suge really isnt involved in the song at all

well thats what i think neways lol :sweating:


he might not diss him but he does mention him in "Bully" now in the song "Like Toy Soldiers" Eminem dosen't say "I went my whole career without ever dissing" he says "I went my whole career without ever mentioning" y would Eminem lie and say he never mentioned Suge when he did mention Suge
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Postby Inzanity » Nov 2nd, '06, 22:10

Clarky wrote:I think he means mentioning the Suge beef with Dre. Not just Suge in general.


but then he would've just said "I went my whole career without ever mentioning the Suge beef" not "I went my whole career without ever mentioning Suge" trust me he says "I went my whole career without ever mentioning nig*a"
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Postby stevethetruth » Nov 2nd, '06, 22:14

EmptyPromises wrote:
Clarky wrote:I think he means mentioning the Suge beef with Dre. Not just Suge in general.


but then he would've just said "I went my whole career without ever mentioning the Suge beef" not "I went my whole career without ever mentioning Suge" trust me he says "I went my whole career without ever mentioning nig*a"


alright first off it's suge because if it were ni*** then he never would've said what he said after he said it ok
in the lyics below he states that dre said it wasn't his beef right

And talkin' about something that I knew nothing about
Plus Dre told me stay out, this just wasn't my beef
So I did, I just fell back, watched and gritted my teeth


now if you say that he said n**** then it would be his beef
ok plain and simple
case closed
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Postby Inzanity » Nov 2nd, '06, 22:19

steverocks88 wrote:
EmptyPromises wrote:
Clarky wrote:I think he means mentioning the Suge beef with Dre. Not just Suge in general.


but then he would've just said "I went my whole career without ever mentioning the Suge beef" not "I went my whole career without ever mentioning Suge" trust me he says "I went my whole career without ever mentioning nig*a"


alright first off it's suge because if it were ni*** then he never would've said what he said after he said it ok
in the lyics below he states that dre said it wasn't his beef right

And talkin' about something that I knew nothing about
Plus Dre told me stay out, this just wasn't my beef
So I did, I just fell back, watched and gritted my teeth


now if you say that he said n**** then it would be his beef
ok plain and simple
case closed


the case isn't closed until my questions answerd will somebody please tell y me Eminem would lie in a song and state "I went my whole career without ever mentioning Suge" when in his song "Bully" Eminem clearly states "Suge has Irv on a string And Irv's so nervous that he Says anything to this man to keep him at bay" ? please somebody give me a logical anwer to this question.
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Postby xsibleyx03 » Nov 2nd, '06, 22:49

EmptyPromises wrote:
Clarky wrote:I think he means mentioning the Suge beef with Dre. Not just Suge in general.


but then he would've just said "I went my whole career without ever mentioning the Suge beef" not "I went my whole career without ever mentioning Suge" trust me he says "I went my whole career without ever mentioning nig*a"


hes saying suge
1. it sounds right
2 he wouldnt have taken ni**a out
3. the lines after it further support that it was suge


*the respect hes refuring to is that Dre told him not to so he was respectin what he was sayin*
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Postby Inzanity » Nov 2nd, '06, 22:54

xsibleyx03 wrote:
EmptyPromises wrote:
Clarky wrote:I think he means mentioning the Suge beef with Dre. Not just Suge in general.


but then he would've just said "I went my whole career without ever mentioning the Suge beef" not "I went my whole career without ever mentioning Suge" trust me he says "I went my whole career without ever mentioning nig*a"


hes saying suge
1. it sounds right
2 he wouldnt have taken ni**a out
3. the lines after it further support that it was suge


*the respect hes refuring to is that Dre told him not to so he was respectin what he was sayin*


y wouldn't he have takin' nig*a out he's done it before in the song "Criminal" he says "I drink more liquor to fuck u up quicker then u'd wanna fuck me up for sayin' the word nig*a" only the "N" word is bleeped out in that song. so if he bleeped it out on "Criminal" y wouldn't he bleep it out on "Like Toy Soldiers"
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Postby xsibleyx03 » Nov 2nd, '06, 22:57

then why would he say the lines after that?
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Postby Inzanity » Nov 2nd, '06, 23:03

xsibleyx03 wrote:

then why would he say the lines after that?



um it makes sense he says he did it out of respect meaning he didn't mention "nig*a" out of respect for black people because he was white and it's wrong for a white person to say the word nig*a. It makes sense because it ties in with the battle between him and Benzino. During the battle Benzino dug up an old freestyle by Eminem called "Foolish Pride" it was a song dissing black women Eminem admitted that he recorded the song when he was 15 and he appoligized for the recording. There was also another freestyle released where the "N" word was mentioned but Eminem stated that he did not record that freestyle and that was not him on that track it was just somebody imitating Eminem. Eminem is just trying to make it clear that he is not racist.
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Postby xsibleyx03 » Nov 2nd, '06, 23:11

EmptyPromises wrote:
xsibleyx03 wrote:y wouldn't he have takin' nig*a out he's done it before in the song "Criminal" he says "I drink more liquor to fuck u up quicker then u'd wanna fuck me up for sayin' the word nig*a" only the "N" word is bleeped out in that song. so if he bleeped it out on "Criminal" y wouldn't he bleep it out on "Like Toy Soldiers"



then why would he say the lines after that?



um it makes sense he says he did out of respect meaning he didn't mention "nig*a" out of respect for black people because he was white and it's wrong for a white person to say the word nig*a. It makes sense because it ties in with the battle between him and Benzino. During the battle Benzino dug up an old freestyle by Eminem called "Foolish Pride" it was a song dissing black women Eminem admitted that he recorded the song when he was 15 and he appoligized for the recording. There was also another freestyle released where the "N" word was mentioned but Eminem stated that he did not record that freestyle and that was not him on that track it was just somebody imitating Eminem. Eminem is just trying to make it clear that he is not racist.[/quote]

that would make since if it werent for:
1 he did say it and in different interviews he flat out said that he did it
and 2. he goes into this
"And that was just out of respect for not runnin' my mouth
And talkin' about something that I knew nothing about
Plus Dre told me stay out, this just wasn't my beef
So I did, I just fell back, watched and gritted my teeth
While he's all over t.v. down talkin' a man who literally saved my life
Like fuck it i understand


its directly talking about the suge and dre beef and besides most of the official lyric sites show he says suge anyway...
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Postby Inzanity » Nov 2nd, '06, 23:16

xsibleyx03 wrote:


that would make since if it werent for:
1 he did say it and in different interviews he flat out said that he did it
and 2. he goes into this
"And that was just out of respect for not runnin' my mouth
And talkin' about something that I knew nothing about
Plus Dre told me stay out, this just wasn't my beef
So I did, I just fell back, watched and gritted my teeth
While he's all over t.v. down talkin' a man who literally saved my life
Like fuck it i understand


its directly talking about the suge and dre beef and besides most of the official lyric sites show he says suge anyway...


but the song is about the battle between him and Benzino that song has nothing to do with Suge so y would he radomly mention Suges name in that song. When Suge had no part in the Shady/Aftermath vs. Benzino and Murder Inc. battle
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Postby Inzanity » Nov 2nd, '06, 23:17

Clarky wrote:You just don't listen do you? lol.


who?
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Postby Inzanity » Nov 2nd, '06, 23:22

Clarky wrote:You lol :p


Seriousley though, why would he try and rhyme good with '*****'?


he wasn't tryin to rhyme the two words
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Postby Inzanity » Nov 2nd, '06, 23:23

Clarky wrote:Then what was he tryna rhyme?


Intentions and mentioning
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