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Re: Em turned down role in new movie

Postby eminembound » Jul 17th, '13, 15:13

HeySamantha_ wrote:
eminembound wrote:^He's been sober for 5 years and he's still THAT afraid and lacks confidence in his own strength......?

Once an addict, always an addict. Why do you think they're supposed to change their entire life when they leave rehab? to get away from old triggers lol



Staying in his own house being afraid of that triggers isn't gonna help him. He needs to step up..
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Re: Em turned down role in new movie

Postby HeySamantha » Jul 17th, '13, 15:18

Him being a hermit isn't drug related, he's always been that way lol

8Mile is where things got really bad for him with drugs, going into another movie would be scary for sure. 5 years is a long time but it's not at the same time. It's a great milestone but I mean, look at the Cory story that's happening right now. We went to rehab twice, started using when he was 12 and even though people thought he was doing great... bam. he ends up dead one night. alone.
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Re: Em turned down role in new movie

Postby eminembound » Jul 17th, '13, 15:19

@bigray I was saying assuming that he is.
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Re: Em turned down role in new movie

Postby Sam. » Jul 17th, '13, 19:09

It'd would have been a great film to see him in, oh well. I think he chose Detroit because he want's it to get the proper attention that it needs and may in some way create job opportunities or something. I don't really see any other reason apart from this. He'd have felt more confident doing that Movie at home and hell could have given his 100%.

He's acting has never been criticized that much, unlike some here. He showed what he was capable of in '8 Mile', so we can expect something beyond that, can't we?

Check out the acting on this one:
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Re: Em turned down role in new movie

Postby Jimmy Conway » Jul 17th, '13, 19:11

The ignorance in this thread is amazing
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Re: Em turned down role in new movie

Postby sbolli1 » Jul 17th, '13, 19:39

Slim Cary wrote:My ignorance in every thread is amazing


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Re: Em turned down role in new movie

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Jul 17th, '13, 19:41

I will never view Eminem as an actor so I honestly don't care for this at all, I WANT SOME FUCKING MUSIC.
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Re: Em turned down role in new movie

Postby Despicable » Jul 17th, '13, 19:56

I applaud EM for that,boss move.He can do whatever he wants.

People here slag EM for turning down the role but if he had taken the role,the same people here would slag him off for not concentrating on his music.
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Re: Em turned down role in new movie

Postby Mathers » Jul 17th, '13, 19:59

Despicable wrote:I applaud EM for that,boss move.He can do whatever he wants.

People here slag EM for turning down the role but if he had taken the role,the same people here would slag him off for not concentrating on his music.
Thats fickle fans for ya.

They're slagging him off for his reason.
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Re: Em turned down role in new movie

Postby EminemBase » Jul 17th, '13, 23:04

SliK wrote:
HeySamantha_ wrote:Really? I thought he was fantastic!

He wasn't.

Watch a film like The Machinist and tell me Eminem is a "fantastic" actor, lol.


Well that's not really a sensible comparison...

Bale in that movie is in a very extreme situation, the likes of which he has never been in and has to go out of his way to portray...

Compare that to the very real and semi-autobiographical situation( s ) of 8 Mile to Em's life.

In terms of authentic and charismatic delivery of lines, body language and just general human portrayl of thoughts and situations that have been written for him... I thought he was good, displayed a decent range, and it was his first ever true acting role. Pretty decent work and most serious film critics, including Ebert thought-so too.

Keanu Reeves is shitty acting. And Eminem is a million times better than him.

If you think Em was shitty in 8 Mile, you can't have seen that many bad actors.

Also, Bale is quite a bad actor at times. His accent sounds so transparently fake and he over-acts like fuck, sometimes I cringe at how OTT and unreal he feels. But he often puts so much in to it, so much intensity that it ultimately convinces and feels compelling in some way...

But there's much better actors than Bale.
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Re: Em turned down role in new movie

Postby Whitefox » Jul 18th, '13, 03:34

EminemBase wrote:Keanu Reeves is shitty acting. And Eminem is a million times better than him.


What? Eminem did good in 8 mile just because everything from the subject matter of the movie to the surrounding were familiar to him. Thats the case of his "good" acting. I really dont think that Em can handle some different role, which is not connected with hip-hop.
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Re: Em turned down role in new movie

Postby SliK » Jul 18th, '13, 03:44

EminemBase wrote:
SliK wrote:
HeySamantha_ wrote:Really? I thought he was fantastic!

He wasn't.

Watch a film like The Machinist and tell me Eminem is a "fantastic" actor, lol.


Well that's not really a sensible comparison...

Bale in that movie is in a very extreme situation, the likes of which he has never been in and has to go out of his way to portray...

Compare that to the very real and semi-autobiographical situation( s ) of 8 Mile to Em's life.

In terms of authentic and charismatic delivery of lines, body language and just general human portrayl of thoughts and situations that have been written for him... I thought he was good, displayed a decent range, and it was his first ever true acting role. Pretty decent work and most serious film critics, including Ebert thought-so too.

Keanu Reeves is shitty acting. And Eminem is a million times better than him.

If you think Em was shitty in 8 Mile, you can't have seen that many bad actors.

Also, Bale is quite a bad actor at times. His accent sounds so transparently fake and he over-acts like fuck, sometimes I cringe at how OTT and unreal he feels. But he often puts so much in to it, so much intensity that it ultimately convinces and feels compelling in some way...

But there's much better actors than Bale.

Bale is an incredible actor. He has been in roles that weren't incredible but he is capable of truly brilliant performances. It's like saying "Recovery wasn't amazing so Eminem isn't an amazing rapper", completely ignoring MMLP. Bale is a fucking great actor. American Psycho, The Machinist, The Fighter are all great movies with great performances from Bale.

Eminem on the other hand really isn't good. I'd wager that I've seen a fuckload more movies than you have. I have been a projectionist for 6 years and have a huge catalogue of new and old films. I know the difference between good and bad acting.

You are right Keanu Reeves, Hayden Christianson, the dude who plays Dexter's dad are ALL bottom of the barrel and worse than Eminem. I put Eminem just below Mark Whalberg (who is far from great but still watchable).
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Re: Em turned down role in new movie

Postby EminemBase » Jul 18th, '13, 05:39

Whitefox wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Keanu Reeves is shitty acting. And Eminem is a million times better than him.


What? Eminem did good in 8 mile just because everything from the subject matter of the movie to the surrounding were familiar to him. Thats the case of his "good" acting. I really dont think that Em can handle some different role, which is not connected with hip-hop.


Not really.

There's still good and bad acting.

You could give Keanu Reeves a movie about his life and he'd still be awful; because he delivers lines in a wooden way, he's flat, hollow, lacks charisma, screen presence and conviction... he ACTS unrealistically, Eminem acts realistically - doesn't mater what the subject-matter is, he's still delivering lines which aren't thoughts from his head, and acting convincingly.
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Re: Em turned down role in new movie

Postby EminemBase » Jul 18th, '13, 05:48

SliK wrote:Bale is an incredible actor. He has been in roles that weren't incredible but he is capable of truly brilliant performances. It's like saying "Recovery wasn't amazing so Eminem isn't an amazing rapper", completely ignoring MMLP. Bale is a fucking great actor. American Psycho, The Machinist, The Fighter are all great movies with great performances from Bale.


I would call Ed Norton an incredible actor.

I would call Denzel Washington an incredible actor.

Same for Jack Nicholson, Steve Buscemi...

I'd call Bale a sometimes thrilling... sometimes cheesy and off-key actor... sometimes I don't think he's convincing. He's nearly always compelling in some way but sometimes he's comic-like cheesy and off-key and his US accents are incredibly OTT and often are his actions.

He was great in Harsh Times, but the same applied; it's only because he was playing a psycho (as he often is) that it worked for him.

But there's far more convincing actors than Bale. But he's interesting.

Also, when did I mention any bad performances by him? You're dismissing an argument that I didn't make lol, so that Em/MMLP analogy doesn't work, because I didn't make that case. I'm saying that even in his great roles, he's not 100% great to me, he's just very intense and interesting and that overrides his flaws as an actor, which, to me as I watch him - is overracting.

I'm not saying he's not capable of true greatness, as his performance in The Fighter definitely was, but I don't think he's wholly consistent in his delivery, I sense holes as I watch him.

SliK wrote:You are right Keanu Reeves, Hayden Christianson, the dude who plays Dexter's dad are ALL bottom of the barrel and worse than Eminem. I put Eminem just below Mark Whalberg (who is far from great but still watchable).


Hmm... well, Whalberg is kinda bad but he pulls off moments... in the right role he can be good-ISH but you can still sense the holes. He was good in The Departed but there's been many shit actors that under the right script and direction look good (COUGH JOHN TRAVOLTA)... I don't think one film is enough to say he's worse than Whalberg, as I think his performance in 8 Mile is more convincing, authentic and interesting than most of Mark's performances. Mark has just been in a wider array of movies and tackled different subject-matter - there's moments of bad acting in 8 Mile but for the most part Em gently underplays emotion like a pro. Shit actors overact or simply have no charisma - great actors like De Niro are powerful underacts, they emphasize realism through subtlety... Em seems to grasp that tone of subtlety in his delivery and body language.

Really don't know what performance you watched. His was solid.

Agree to disagree on that one.
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Re: Em turned down role in new movie

Postby eminembound » Jul 18th, '13, 05:57

Menzo wrote:Nicolas Cage is a good actor, right guys? Guys..?



There, there.... :console:


He's got a hot wife tho.
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