MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

[skc_]

its close for relapse

[therapist]

This is second best album ever next to the first one. It goes like this and anyone who disagrees is wrong:

MMLP>MMLP2>TES>SSLP>INFINITE>RELAPSE>Recovery>Encore

My personal fav though that's not fact like the other one just my opinion:

MMLP>MMLP2>TES>Recovery=Relapse>Encore>SSLP>Infinite

I know that SSLP is a better album that Relapse, Recovery, infinite, and Encore but I enjoy more songs on the others.

Put TES in front of MMLP2 and you've got yourself a list.

definitely MMLP2 > sslp, encore, relapse, recovery AND infinite. Bad meets evil too, shit. what the hell

[UofLCard]

its close for relapse

[Trilla]

Relapse > MMLP 2 for sure

[JHart15]

Relapse is overrated on here. This is the same album with Insane, We Made You, Medicine Ball, Old Time Sake, Must Be the Ganja, Crack a Bottle, and Underground. Only thing special out of all those batch of records is the 2nd verse on MBTG.

[Trilla]

I don't see how it's lyrically better either. Relapse lyricism is amazing.

Relapse is full of rhymes, yes. But these rhymes hardly have any substance to them, they're so cheap...random accented words that otherwise wouldn't fit (but somehow it's forced if normal/screaming Eminem does it), murderous sprees were he can literally pick words out of a hat and add them into the story...finishing lines with 'ah' and other sounds to even out the syllables...

That's absolutely not true @ no substance.

If you take lines like...

"Slipped and fell, hit his back-bone, heard something go crack
Now he's up in the bathroom like he's busting a nap
Almost ended it that soon because of the fact ; I'm just busting my own chops while I'm bustin a rap"

It feels like most people just decided Relapse was rape and overlook every other element about it. In this little section... he's taking the piss out of his situation whilst using his life as fuel for the rhymes... this is what he used to do which made him so brilliant.

Rather than just going 'I collapsed from drugs. Shit was bad' blah blah, he parodies the situation and uses lyricism as a jumping off-point for reference...

Relapse is chock-full of this. It's witty as fuck. Yes there's some stupid lines in there, and he's provoking for the sake of it, but that's the point... he's relapsing in to a nutty state, which becomes the excuse for the provocation.

He basically walks that line of blurring reality with fiction properly again, like he does on "My Mom", which is similar to "Brain Damage" in that it takes a real story or concept from his life and turns it in to a clearly exaggerated storytelling scenario, allowing him much more freedom of expression with his description, voice acting, scenes etc.

Relapse mixes a lot of self-reference with self-parody and the writing style is so witty in how he phrases things in reference to himself as a character...

And that remains totally consistent throughout up until and including "Deja Vu".

That's what I love most about Relapse, how he seamlessly blends in details of his own life into this persona made entirely for this album. So much attention to detail, it's fantastic.

[Trilla]

As an album? Sure, I can say that Relapse flows better. I personally don't think that there are any songs on MMLP2 as bad as Old Time's Sake, We Made You, Crack A Bottle, Beautiful, or Underground though.

What's wrong with those songs?

[CanadaPure]

As an album? Sure, I can say that Relapse flows better. I personally don't think that there are any songs on MMLP2 as bad as Old Time's Sake, We Made You, Crack A Bottle, Beautiful, or Underground though.

What's wrong with those songs?

I find those particular songs to feel like they just drag on, they're sloppy to me.

[Ku53v]

That's absolutely not true @ no substance.

If you take lines like...

"Slipped and fell, hit his back-bone, heard something go crack
Now he's up in the bathroom like he's busting a nap
Almost ended it that soon because of the fact ; I'm just busting my own chops while I'm bustin a rap"

It feels like most people just decided Relapse was rape and overlook every other element about it. In this little section... he's taking the piss out of his situation whilst using his life as fuel for the rhymes... this is what he used to do which made him so brilliant.

Rather than just going 'I collapsed from drugs. Shit was bad' blah blah, he parodies the situation and uses lyricism as a jumping off-point for reference...

Relapse is chock-full of this. It's witty as fuck. Yes there's some stupid lines in there, and he's provoking for the sake of it, but that's the point... he's relapsing in to a nutty state, which becomes the excuse for the provocation.

He basically walks that line of blurring reality with fiction properly again, like he does on "My Mom", which is similar to "Brain Damage" in that it takes a real story or concept from his life and turns it in to a clearly exaggerated storytelling scenario, allowing him much more freedom of expression with his description, voice acting, scenes etc.

Relapse mixes a lot of self-reference with self-parody and the writing style is so witty in how he phrases things in reference to himself as a character...

And that remains totally consistent throughout up until and including "Deja Vu".

What a load of horse shit except for a handful of songs relapse has no content, even eminem would tell you that

[Mr Change]

That's absolutely not true @ no substance.

If you take lines like...

"Slipped and fell, hit his back-bone, heard something go crack
Now he's up in the bathroom like he's busting a nap
Almost ended it that soon because of the fact ; I'm just busting my own chops while I'm bustin a rap"

It feels like most people just decided Relapse was rape and overlook every other element about it. In this little section... he's taking the piss out of his situation whilst using his life as fuel for the rhymes... this is what he used to do which made him so brilliant.

Rather than just going 'I collapsed from drugs. Shit was bad' blah blah, he parodies the situation and uses lyricism as a jumping off-point for reference...

Relapse is chock-full of this. It's witty as fuck. Yes there's some stupid lines in there, and he's provoking for the sake of it, but that's the point... he's relapsing in to a nutty state, which becomes the excuse for the provocation.

He basically walks that line of blurring reality with fiction properly again, like he does on "My Mom", which is similar to "Brain Damage" in that it takes a real story or concept from his life and turns it in to a clearly exaggerated storytelling scenario, allowing him much more freedom of expression with his description, voice acting, scenes etc.

Relapse mixes a lot of self-reference with self-parody and the writing style is so witty in how he phrases things in reference to himself as a character...

And that remains totally consistent throughout up until and including "Deja Vu".

What a load of horse shit except for a handful of songs relapse has no content, even eminem would tell you that

[Ares]

That's absolutely not true @ no substance.

If you take lines like...

"Slipped and fell, hit his back-bone, heard something go crack
Now he's up in the bathroom like he's busting a nap
Almost ended it that soon because of the fact ; I'm just busting my own chops while I'm bustin a rap"

It feels like most people just decided Relapse was rape and overlook every other element about it. In this little section... he's taking the piss out of his situation whilst using his life as fuel for the rhymes... this is what he used to do which made him so brilliant.

Rather than just going 'I collapsed from drugs. Shit was bad' blah blah, he parodies the situation and uses lyricism as a jumping off-point for reference...

Relapse is chock-full of this. It's witty as fuck. Yes there's some stupid lines in there, and he's provoking for the sake of it, but that's the point... he's relapsing in to a nutty state, which becomes the excuse for the provocation.

He basically walks that line of blurring reality with fiction properly again, like he does on "My Mom", which is similar to "Brain Damage" in that it takes a real story or concept from his life and turns it in to a clearly exaggerated storytelling scenario, allowing him much more freedom of expression with his description, voice acting, scenes etc.

Relapse mixes a lot of self-reference with self-parody and the writing style is so witty in how he phrases things in reference to himself as a character...

And that remains totally consistent throughout up until and including "Deja Vu".

What a load of horse shit except for a handful of songs relapse has no content, even eminem would tell you that

I think he might have Relapse CD too deep in his ass.

[beowafle]

Just relistened to Refill. Aaaaaaaand surprise surprise, I still enjoy Buffalo Bill more than most of MMLP2. Now don't get me wrong, I love MMLP2, but Eminem's flow since Bad Meets Evil... well I don't want to say I don't like it but I prefer the old one. It just seems to me that he raps so fast that he "stumbles over words" now...

[beowafle]

It's probably also caused by the beats... I prefer the "cleaner ones" over those "dirty ones" it's really hard for me to express myself in english .

[Trilla]

Relapse def has more forgettables than MMLP2 but also some masterpieces that make it hard for me. Refill alone is just so.. 10/10
But i agree with Recovery and Encore for sure. I'd say MMLP2 > Relapse but its kinda close

Every song on Relapse pulls you in. None of them are forgettable.

[4Corners]

Relapse has way too many forgettable tracks. Bagpipes, I know it's a favorite here, Old Times Sake, Medicine Ball, We Made You, Crack A Bottle are all forgettable. And songs like Hello, My Mom, aren't anything super special, but they aren't bad by any means.

The only time Relapse reaches the heights of Bad Guy, Brainless, Headlights, Evil Twin, Legacy, Groundhog Day is Deja Vu really.