Em's Rap God Speed / Complexity...

[ganjakush56]

@kkaniff

they way I hear people discuss Eminem's skillz, to me, seems as if they are implying that Eminem is the indisputable greatest, most technical, spiritual lyrical miracle spitting don of hip hop when he just isn't. He is not on some pedestal that no rapper can or has ever touched before. Eminem is impressive in the technical department, but so is Big Pun, Tech N9ne, Busta, Twista, etc. etc. There are many others. In terms of punchlines, Big L's material seems to always shit on Eminem's. In terms of wordplay, symbolism, metaphors, etc., Nas shits on Eminem. And the second paragraph of my initial response was directed towards the OP. To me, Eminem shines because of his diversity of flows and styles - his versatility. Also, especially post 2009, the way his cadence seems to bounce of the snare perfectly is pretty outstanding.

In terms of Rap God, its not that fast and other rappers have spit just as complicated bars with just as much content in double in triple time flows as well.

[ganjakush56]

Nas is my second favourite rapper, but no.

no?

btw nas isn't even my favorite rapper either, i dont know who is, for a few months it was immortal technique, then Eminem, then biggie, then eminem again, wu tang too, fuck... at the end of the day, i listen to Eminem way more than nas

[ganjakush56]

Hm...are you a fairly new rap fan?

nah, i probably just listen to it for different reasons than other people

[Elision]

Ive come to a conclusion of the last few years that no matter what genre, sport, activity or anything, the really dope (aka the best) ones never get full attention.

That's not (always) true.

[csw621]

I think ganjakush has been smoking too much of his own supply tbh

[DetroitSkills]

I think ganjakush has been smoking too much of his own supply tbh

[ganjakush56]

I think ganjakush has been smoking too much of his own supply tbh

yeee

[EminemBase]

@kkaniff

they way I hear people discuss Eminem's skillz, to me, seems as if they are implying that Eminem is the indisputable greatest, most technical, spiritual lyrical miracle spitting don of hip hop when he just isn't. He is not on some pedestal that no rapper can or has ever touched before. Eminem is impressive in the technical department, but so is Big Pun, Tech N9ne, Busta, Twista, etc. etc. There are many others. In terms of punchlines, Big L's material seems to always shit on Eminem's. In terms of wordplay, symbolism, metaphors, etc., Nas shits on Eminem. And the second paragraph of my initial response was directed towards the OP. To me, Eminem shines because of his diversity of flows and styles - his versatility. Also, especially post 2009, the way his cadence seems to bounce of the snare perfectly is pretty outstanding.

In terms of Rap God, its not that fast and other rappers have spit just as complicated bars with just as much content in double in triple time flows as well.

LEL @ Nas shitting on Eminem.

Nas' wordplay etc. has always been simple and pretty unimpressive.

He has some good punches, some good wordplay but... he's not supreme at it.

His gift was always poetic phrasing, on his prime shit. Eminem's wordplay absolutely slaughters anything Nas has ever done. Em is in another realm to Nas in almost every category.

[ganjakush56]

@EminemBase

so you're saying that your opinion is better than my opinion? how dare you

[CrashBand]

yikes

[csw621]

Base's opinion is better than yours and eminem is better than your mom.

[ganjakush56]

Base's opinion is better than yours and eminem is better than your mom.

eminem is better than my mom? that was either a really bad joke or you must be 12...or high as fuck. and the nigga's opinion is just an opinion just like mine is JUST an opinion. aint no motherfucker on this site got the ability to give an objective critique of an artist (unless they only focus on sales, which doesn't have anything to do with artistry) and that includes me.

Anyways..back to what i was doing.

[Emadyville]

base's opinion should always be respected, he doesnt talk out of his ass like a lot of people on this forum. and thats meant at no one, i'm just saying

[csw621]

Eminem is the best selling artist of the fucking millennium and it has EVERYTHING to do with artistry you ass.

[ganjakush56]

Eminem is the best selling artist of the fucking millennium and it has EVERYTHING to do with artistry you ass.

no it doesn't. Artistry is only one factor. Sales do not equal talent or artistic ability.