shreyshady wrote:What's shocking is pitchfork gave MCHG an entire point over MMLP2. If you're saying Em has nothing to rap about and is using filler lines, and that's your main issue with the album, wtf are you smoking MCHG was the same thing we've heard Jay put out forever now. His whole "I have a lot of shit, I'm awesome" There is no way in my mind that you can rate MCHG as a better album than MMLP2 and have any credibility. Rate them the same if you want, but don't tell me MCHG was somehow better. Just plain stupid, have some consistency.
But like most savants, Eminem is interested in pyrotechnics above all else — “Rap God” and “Berzerk,” especially, are overwhelming barrages of rhyme.... Rihanna rescues him again on “The Monster” — her blank power elevates his scratchy ramblings, and the melancholy piano on “Legacy” seems to calm him a bit. On “Love Game,” he uses a Wayne Fontana & the Mindbenders sample the way the Native Tongues might have, for a dose of oddity, while on “So Far...,” he’s rapping over Joe Walsh’s “Life’s Been Good” for a track that, were it not for all the bleeping it would need, could be easily played on Country Music Television.
“Brainless,” which could have been played on “The Dr. Demento Show,” is immediately followed here by “Stronger Than I Was,” which is a virtually unlistenable agglomeration of shrieks and atonal singing, the rare moment where Eminem’s rage outright trumps his dexterity.
But he still has some old bad habits, still heavy-handed with the homophobic slurs, and still explaining them away in interviews by equating his current creative frame of mind to that of his less enlightened battle-rapping days, a weak and tiresome excuse. He still excels at baleful and downright mean records. Unlike, say, Jay Z, who’s found new subject matter and new targets as he’s aged, Eminem is still rapping from deep inside his cave, as if he’s had no new experiences to draw from.
But like most savants, Eminem is interested in pyrotechnics above all else — “Rap God” and “Berzerk,” especially, are overwhelming barrages of rhyme.... Rihanna rescues him again on “The Monster” — her blank power elevates his scratchy ramblings, and the melancholy piano on “Legacy” seems to calm him a bit. On “Love Game,” he uses a Wayne Fontana & the Mindbenders sample the way the Native Tongues might have, for a dose of oddity, while on “So Far...,” he’s rapping over Joe Walsh’s “Life’s Been Good” for a track that, were it not for all the bleeping it would need, could be easily played on Country Music Television.
“Brainless,” which could have been played on “The Dr. Demento Show,” is immediately followed here by “Stronger Than I Was,” which is a virtually unlistenable agglomeration of shrieks and atonal singing, the rare moment where Eminem’s rage outright trumps his dexterity.
But he still has some old bad habits, still heavy-handed with the homophobic slurs, and still explaining them away in interviews by equating his current creative frame of mind to that of his less enlightened battle-rapping days, a weak and tiresome excuse. He still excels at baleful and downright mean records. Unlike, say, Jay Z, who’s found new subject matter and new targets as he’s aged, Eminem is still rapping from deep inside his cave, as if he’s had no new experiences to draw from.
Eminem wrote:Unfashionable and bout as rational as a rash in a fag's asshole
Steelez wrote:Where is the great lyricism on MMLP2? Besides Bad Guy and a couple of other glimpses, I don't see it.
You think lyrics like 'if it wasn't for blowjobs you'd be unemployed', or 'getting sick of these girls girls girls, oink oink oink, you fu*kin pigs, all you good for is doink doink doink', or 'the day you'll be me, pigs'll fly out my ass in a flying saucer, full of ITALIAN SAUSAGE' are remotely good, clever, or funny? like, seriously? And these are not isolated moments...there are plenty of bad lines on the album. And also, Rap God is lyrically mediocre. It needs to be said. People are quick to praise the song because he's rapping fast and rhyming big words together...sorry, but you need more than that to achieve GOOD lyricism.
Why is MCHG lyrically inferior? Jay's second verse on Holy Grail isn't good? Picasso Baby? Crown? Nickels and Dimes? Oceans? MCHG is certainly not a GREAT album, but the hate it gets is completely unwarranted.
Steelez wrote:Where is the great lyricism on MMLP2? Besides Bad Guy and a couple of other glimpses, I don't see it.
You think lyrics like 'if it wasn't for blowjobs you'd be unemployed', or 'getting sick of these girls girls girls, oink oink oink, you fu*kin pigs, all you good for is doink doink doink', or 'the day you'll be me, pigs'll fly out my ass in a flying saucer, full of ITALIAN SAUSAGE' are remotely good, clever, or funny? like, seriously? And these are not isolated moments...there are plenty of bad lines on the album. And also, Rap God is lyrically mediocre. It needs to be said. People are quick to praise the song because he's rapping fast and rhyming big words together...sorry, but you need more than that to achieve GOOD lyricism.
Why is MCHG lyrically inferior? Jay's second verse on Holy Grail isn't good? Picasso Baby? Crown? Nickels and Dimes? Oceans? MCHG is certainly not a GREAT album, but the hate it gets is completely unwarranted.
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