I find it almost weird Em dissed Michael Jackson

[VenomBlackViper]

That "I done touched on everything but little boys" is one of the best punchlines I ever heard
Also as NicoleEm pointed out "thats not not a stab at michael thats just a metaphor i'm just psycho" is pretty much the same as "relax guy I like gay men" he had nothing against either he was just making jokes & trying to confuse people. I remember reading that some retard said "eminem should have his ghetto pass revoked" which is just really fucking retarded.

[stillmatic]

So is it okay for all of America to make fun of him behind his back, every chance they get, throwing around child molestation jokes like they're nothing, but when Eminem POKES FUN (not even disses, but just parodies MJ) at Michael Jackson, suddenly he's the bad guy. No, fuck that, MJ was being clowned on by EVERYONE around the time of these trials and all this drama, so why can't Eminem do it? Because he actually does it out in the open, instead of in the safety of his own house, or in the company of friends? THAT'S not cowardly, THAT'S free speech, that's how democracy works, too. Free speech is just as important, and if Eminem is a coward for speaking freely (unlike the rest of America), then free speech no longer means anything

Umm that's the point, Em aligned himself with the rest of the sheep who were going at MJ. Eminem was always different in that aspect, where he formed his opinion, he never let the media dictate what he thought about others, he never let people influence his actions, and then he goes out and follows the same direction which he denounces so often in his music. It was a hypocritical move bigger tahn anything he's done ever, and at the same time it was a complete dick move to do it to a person who's influenced so much of what even Eminem's done in music. MJ broke down barriers in music, he broke the unwritten code that blacks weren't to be played on MTV, this allowed for race to take a backward step in music, if not for this, Eminem still may have been a nobody.

[stillmatic]

I second that.

What, however, makes MJ seem like guilty (to most people), is that he himself claimed he had slept "with" kids in the same bed. And instead of proving his case, he "payed off" this family to redraw the case. BUT, I don't know more than anyone else here, so I won't speculate whether he's guilty or not. Imo, he's made several good (some great) songs, that's what I care about.

Wow about being mis-informed.

How about you actually read on the case?

Michael Jackson "paid off" the Chandlers, because it was a CIVIL CLAIM where it only involves MONEY. It was NOT a criminal case. The Chandlers wanted money, they never wanted to press criminal charges, now surely you'd think that if a father who's son had been molested, you'd think he would want that person locked up? No? In a civil claim, there is NEVER guilty or not guilty, it simply liable or not liable.

Btw. In the American justice system, the court and jury, at all times even in a civil claim, the court is allowed to press criminal charges if they believe there is sufficient evidence to do so even if the Chandlers didn't want to do so, but the court RECOGNIZED there was NO evidence even of the slightest to do so.

Michael Jackson was never even put in question of being guilty, as the case was never about being guilty or not guilty.

There is a big difference between a man being a little weird and a pedophile, so please, gets your facts right.

[Atone]

This Jekil_N_Hyde guy is a fucking idiot

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to anybody who i may have offended

[Master Chief]

I respect a lot Em for making fun of MJ!!! I really disrepect MJ, for me he's a pussy, he lived like one and die like one. Y'all probably will start with like "fuck you MJ is the GOAT", yeah in his gener he maight be but as a person he's a coward. Let's see why:
First he had a bad father who always told him what to do and what's the best for him but MJ never stand him like Em did, he never had the balls to tell him like a man "fuck you, i know what's the best for me" or somethink like that.
Yeah he was the victime of the fame but in some poit it was his faut. He went with a mask in the nose just to get attantion, he slept in a tube just to get attantion agan, he was lying about his surjeris just to be countruversal or somethink, he kept a secret his skin degrees just to get attantion, he was fucking patetic.
I don't know if he slept with kids or no, i just know he was a coward, he never act like a man!!!! Em was addicted to the same shit as MJ but Em get off them and now he's sober and not afraid to talk about that and admitted he was waek. MJ never did it and that's why he died this way!!! I know it sucks to talk about someone who's not with us anymore, but this is the true for me, that's how i see MJ in my eays!!! And i just wanna said that he was a brillieant artist, one of the best in all genres but......

You are a fucking idiot. I won't even argue against you.

[Slill_Slim_Shady]

I respect a lot Em for making fun of MJ!!! I really disrepect MJ, for me he's a pussy, he lived like one and die like one. Y'all probably will start with like "fuck you MJ is the GOAT", yeah in his gener he maight be but as a person he's a coward. Let's see why:
First he had a bad father who always told him what to do and what's the best for him but MJ never stand him like Em did, he never had the balls to tell him like a man "fuck you, i know what's the best for me" or somethink like that.
Yeah he was the victime of the fame but in some poit it was his faut. He went with a mask in the nose just to get attantion, he slept in a tube just to get attantion agan, he was lying about his surjeris just to be countruversal or somethink, he kept a secret his skin degrees just to get attantion, he was fucking patetic.
I don't know if he slept with kids or no, i just know he was a coward, he never act like a man!!!! Em was addicted to the same shit as MJ but Em get off them and now he's sober and not afraid to talk about that and admitted he was waek. MJ never did it and that's why he died this way!!! I know it sucks to talk about someone who's not with us anymore, but this is the true for me, that's how i see MJ in my eays!!! And i just wanna said that he was a brillieant artist, one of the best in all genres but......

You are a fucking idiot. I won't even argue against you.

you can't argue me and i'm the idiot Ok!!

[xxTrigger1989xx]

So is it okay for all of America to make fun of him behind his back, every chance they get, throwing around child molestation jokes like they're nothing, but when Eminem POKES FUN (not even disses, but just parodies MJ) at Michael Jackson, suddenly he's the bad guy. No, fuck that, MJ was being clowned on by EVERYONE around the time of these trials and all this drama, so why can't Eminem do it? Because he actually does it out in the open, instead of in the safety of his own house, or in the company of friends? THAT'S not cowardly, THAT'S free speech, that's how democracy works, too. Free speech is just as important, and if Eminem is a coward for speaking freely (unlike the rest of America), then free speech no longer means anything

Umm that's the point, Em aligned himself with the rest of the sheep who were going at MJ. Eminem was always different in that aspect, where he formed his opinion, he never let the media dictate what he thought about others, he never let people influence his actions, and then he goes out and follows the same direction which he denounces so often in his music. It was a hypocritical move bigger tahn anything he's done ever, and at the same time it was a complete dick move to do it to a person who's influenced so much of what even Eminem's done in music. MJ broke down barriers in music, he broke the unwritten code that blacks weren't to be played on MTV, this allowed for race to take a backward step in music, if not for this, Eminem still may have been a nobody.

Anyone who takes Eminem too seriously when he takes jabs at people, especially in the Encore era, should themselves. His little jabs at MJ are no different than his jabs at other celebrities he's mocked in the past. People wanna get butthurt over Em saying something they don't like, that's fine, but Em shouldn't have to hold himself back like that. If he wants to say something, he'll say it, it's called free speech. No one is an exception

If he truly DID let the media dictate his actions like you're saying he did, then he wouldn't have said shit. He would have stopped himself, because he knew that taking small shots at MJ would spark some controversy. The media was pointing fingers, calling him an asshole, and he still made the music. Yeah, Eminem REALLY let the media dictate is actions, buddy. Him "dissing" MJ is no different than him "dissing" Brittany, if he was the media puppet you were trying to make him out to be, he would never name drop anyone for controversy. GTFO

[stillmatic]

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Anyone who takes Eminem too seriously when he takes jabs at people, especially in the Encore era, should themselves. His little jabs at MJ are no different than his jabs at other celebrities he's mocked in the past. People wanna get butthurt over Em saying something they don't like, that's fine, but Em shouldn't have to hold himself back like that. If he wants to say something, he'll say it, it's called free speech. No one is an exception

If he truly DID let the media dictate his actions like you're saying he did, then he wouldn't have said shit. He would have stopped himself, because he knew that taking small shots at MJ would spark some controversy. The media was pointing fingers, calling him an asshole, and he still made the music. Yeah, Eminem REALLY let the media dictate is actions, buddy. Him "dissing" MJ is no different than him "dissing" Brittany, if he was the media puppet you were trying to make him out to be, he would never name drop anyone for controversy. GTFO

It's not about taking Eminem too seriously or not, it's about the people he was going at. The fact that you can't distinguish the MJ insults and the other celebs he went at it confirms to be you fail to see the circumstances. They are apples and oranges, not even remotely similar. Eminem going at MJ wasn't just an insult, it was an attack against a man with accusations that were personal and further increased ignorance, that's different to what he's done in the past, when he's gone at mickey mouse celebs for their crap music, their look or whatever.

And are you kidding me? He aligned himself with the media, just because there was a little outcry from certain areas (almost exclusively blacks and BET who were the only ones to ban the video) doesn't mean he went against them, he was WITH THEM. The "thing" at that time was to insult Michael Jackson, the cool thing at that time was to make fun of MJ, are you serious? Do you forget the constant insults thrown at MJ on Late Night, on News channels and the uproar over his interview with Martin Basheer where everyone was suggesting he should lose rights to seeing his kids?

No one other than MJ fans and certain groups were going at him for the MJ insult, just as no one other than say gays and gay groups were going at him for insulting gays, it was just the same old same for Eminem.

At this time, Eminem was just sheep. He tagged along with the popular trend and that was to make fun of MJ.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

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Anyone who takes Eminem too seriously when he takes jabs at people, especially in the Encore era, should themselves. His little jabs at MJ are no different than his jabs at other celebrities he's mocked in the past. People wanna get butthurt over Em saying something they don't like, that's fine, but Em shouldn't have to hold himself back like that. If he wants to say something, he'll say it, it's called free speech. No one is an exception

If he truly DID let the media dictate his actions like you're saying he did, then he wouldn't have said shit. He would have stopped himself, because he knew that taking small shots at MJ would spark some controversy. The media was pointing fingers, calling him an asshole, and he still made the music. Yeah, Eminem REALLY let the media dictate is actions, buddy. Him "dissing" MJ is no different than him "dissing" Brittany, if he was the media puppet you were trying to make him out to be, he would never name drop anyone for controversy. GTFO

It's not about taking Eminem too seriously or not, it's about the people he was going at. The fact that you can't distinguish the MJ insults and the other celebs he went at it confirms to be you fail to see the circumstances. They are apples and oranges, not even remotely similar. Eminem going at MJ wasn't just an insult, it was an attack against a man with accusations that were personal and further increased ignorance, that's different to what he's done in the past, when he's gone at mickey mouse celebs for their crap music, their look or whatever.

And are you kidding me? He aligned himself with the media, just because there was a little outcry from certain areas (almost exclusively blacks and BET who were the only ones to ban the video) doesn't mean he went against them, he was WITH THEM. The "thing" at that time was to insult Michael Jackson, the cool thing at that time was to make fun of MJ, are you serious? Do you forget the constant insults thrown at MJ on Late Night, on News channels and the uproar over his interview with Martin Basheer where everyone was suggesting he should lose rights to seeing his kids?

No one other than MJ fans and certain groups were going at him for the MJ insult, just as no one other than say gays and gay groups were going at him for insulting gays, it was just the same old same for Eminem.

At this time, Eminem was just sheep. He tagged along with the popular trend and that was to make fun of MJ.

Yes, I actually am kidding you

Nah, but really, no point in arguing about it. I've already said that Em HAS ALWAYS taken the media, pointed out what was wrong with it, and exaggerated it. He's ALWAYS DONE THAT, it's not like MJ was the first person to have that done to. And you seem to think differently, so I won't dispute it anymore. Whatever

[Willy]

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Anyone who takes Eminem too seriously when he takes jabs at people, especially in the Encore era, should themselves. His little jabs at MJ are no different than his jabs at other celebrities he's mocked in the past. People wanna get butthurt over Em saying something they don't like, that's fine, but Em shouldn't have to hold himself back like that. If he wants to say something, he'll say it, it's called free speech. No one is an exception

If he truly DID let the media dictate his actions like you're saying he did, then he wouldn't have said shit. He would have stopped himself, because he knew that taking small shots at MJ would spark some controversy. The media was pointing fingers, calling him an asshole, and he still made the music. Yeah, Eminem REALLY let the media dictate is actions, buddy. Him "dissing" MJ is no different than him "dissing" Brittany, if he was the media puppet you were trying to make him out to be, he would never name drop anyone for controversy. GTFO

It's not about taking Eminem too seriously or not, it's about the people he was going at. The fact that you can't distinguish the MJ insults and the other celebs he went at it confirms to be you fail to see the circumstances. They are apples and oranges, not even remotely similar. Eminem going at MJ wasn't just an insult, it was an attack against a man with accusations that were personal and further increased ignorance, that's different to what he's done in the past, when he's gone at mickey mouse celebs for their crap music, their look or whatever.

And are you kidding me? He aligned himself with the media, just because there was a little outcry from certain areas (almost exclusively blacks and BET who were the only ones to ban the video) doesn't mean he went against them, he was WITH THEM. The "thing" at that time was to insult Michael Jackson, the cool thing at that time was to make fun of MJ, are you serious? Do you forget the constant insults thrown at MJ on Late Night, on News channels and the uproar over his interview with Martin Basheer where everyone was suggesting he should lose rights to seeing his kids?

No one other than MJ fans and certain groups were going at him for the MJ insult, just as no one other than say gays and gay groups were going at him for insulting gays, it was just the same old same for Eminem.

At this time, Eminem was just sheep. He tagged along with the popular trend and that was to make fun of MJ.

People that get their face raped by plastic surgeons and have sex with boys without a condom should be insulted. They should be ridiculed so no one will ever follow in their footsteps.

[stillmatic]

Again, prove to me he had "sex" with children.

Also I find it funny how you wrote "had sex with children without a condom".....so...if a man has sex with children with a condom it's fine? Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

[Willy]

I was one of them

[cocaine2011]

Let the king of pop rest in peace


stop talking about dissing him and accusations now when he obviously doesn't care

[xxTrigger1989xx]

I was one of them

Now THAT'S fucked up...

[Willy]

king of popping boners in a kid's butthole