MMLP2 represents the MMLP well

[_Hawk_]

MMLP2 just conquers the elephant in the room.

There's way more to it than that, but in terms of its overriding relation to the original album that is what it is.
It revisits it from a matured perspective.

Eminem motherfuckers. Do you not understand him?

[EminemBase]

Whether I have invented it or not is a moot point. It holds up.
Read the Rolling Stone interview and, rather like with the original MMLP, you can understand what Em's intentions are if you read between the lines.

That's your point isn't it? He's expecting the fans to understand the work?
Well, I understand it.

/checkmate.

Lmao, no, not checkmate.

Bad points, badly made.

And no that's not my point, my point is that MMLP had a clear concept and foundation, and set of themes. It's not about him being the same person - but he barely touches on any of the MMLP themes from a new perspective... there's the odd line / reference, but then a regular Em album.

You say what it shares is that it's about his life / views now, how he's grown... yet every single Eminem album is about that. How is TES not that? How is Encore not? So you've failed to prove how it's different and therefore connected to MMLP in any way.

Inventing a metaphor about it being about greatness and saying 'that works' just so it cozily fits in your mind means nothing. Eminem has not said nor implied that in any way, 'read between the lines' in this instance is code for 'make up the connection because one isn't there'.

Eminem himself actually told you how he intended to connect the two, so you don't need to read between the lines. He said it's about the nostalgia and the vibe of MMLP.

/won.

[Kill You]

Definitely believe that him naming the title MMLP 2 had a point. He revisits those ideas and themes from a mature way like Hawk said...

[Trilla]

MMLP is about flipping the criticisms others made about him and using them to define himself, while making great music.

MMLP 2 is about...rapping...to rap? I'll have to go with EmBase on this one. One second the man is talking about being a Rap God then the next he's talking about Headlights and apologizing to his mother. Talking about his dad and then talking about how he's an asshole.

There's no concept. And, please, don't say the concept was Eminem telling things from his point of view because there's nothing new he's telling since we've heard it all.

[Kill You]

REVISITATION

[Trilla]

Definitely believe that him naming the title MMLP 2 had a point. He revisits those ideas and themes from a mature way like Hawk said...

"My mother reproduced like a komodo dragon
And had me on the back of a motorcycle
Then crashed in the side of loco-motive with rap, I'm loco
It's like handing a psycho a loaded handgun
Michelangelo with a paint gun in a tantrum
About to explode all over the canvas
Back with the Yoda of rap in a spasm"

Ohhh soooo matureeee just looook at that re-visitation

[_Hawk_]

I have not invented anything. You are now getting fucking retarded mate.

He revisits the album by tackling it as the Magnum Opus that has held back the rest of his career. He is constantly compared back to it, and so on this album he once and for all shows how he can escape that comparison and thus breach the artistic-glass ceiling that holds him back.

Need I say more?
After this album, he will never be compared to the MMLP again. It isn't so much a sequel so much as a means of displacing it as (i will say it again) the elephant in the room.

This is not a badly made point, this is a fact that you are not willing to accept.

All of his albums can be connected by arguing they are 'honest', however they come from different perspectives. Encore was intended as means to end his career, TES was him pouring his life out, and MMLP was him violently reacting against his critics.
You said every album is reactionary, but this is too simple a statement. MMLP is the most reactionary: it starts and finishes with a fundamental fuck-you to everyone who was doubting him. MMLP2 follows this same formula, but the actual meat of the album takes a more contemporary spin.

It is obvious what Eminem was intending. You are too pig-headed and too fixated on this one notion of 'single-mindedness' to see the wood for the trees.

[EminemBase]

REVISITATION

What does he revisit?

He doesn't even really mention his dad on MMLP 1 that I can remember... so that's not a revisit...

How about "So Much Better"... an anti-bitch track which appears on every Eminem album in some way or another, so that is also not a revisit or a MMLP theme...

"Legacy"?... about being bullying and overcoming odds... about his legacy in the game? I don't remember him talking about any of this in MMLP 1.

"Asshole" - the closest to a re-visitation, but very loosely. It's more so another broad, modern concept track, he litters some lines about the batman shooting etc. but then veers in to anti-bitch rambling.

"Rap God" revisits some shit...

There's the odd lines here and there, but the overall theme or feel of these lyrics and the album is not a revisitation to those themes.

[EminemBase]

I have not invented anything. You are now getting fucking retarded mate.

He revisits the album by tackling it as the Magnum Opus that has held back the rest of his career. He is constantly compared back to it, and so on this album he once and for all shows how he can escape that comparison and thus breach the artistic-glass ceiling that holds him back.

Need I say more?
After this album, he will never be compared to the MMLP again. It isn't so much a sequel so much as a means of displacing it as (i will say it again) the elephant in the room.

This is not a badly made point, this is a fact that you are not willing to accept.

All of his albums can be connected by arguing they are 'honest', however they come from different perspectives. Encore was intended as means to end his career, TES was him pouring his life out, and MMLP was him violently reacting against his critics.
You said every album is reactionary, but this is too simple a statement. MMLP is the most reactionary: it starts and finishes with a fundamental fuck-you to everyone who was doubting him. MMLP2 follows this same formula, but the actual meat of the album takes a more contemporary spin.

It is obvious what Eminem was intending. You are too pig-headed and too fixated on this one notion of 'single-mindedness' to see the wood for the trees.

No I'm not too pig-headed, I understand your very simple points, they're very tedious and I completely understand what you're saying the album is.

You're inventing complete notions, at no point has Eminem said he's made this to stop comparisons lmfao... and you're forcefully saying that like that was THEE purpose of the fucking album? Switching from a moment ago of saying it's about how Eminem has grown? Whilst continuing to ignore my challenge to show how TES and Encore are not also that?

You're a moron.

[_Hawk_]

A re-visitation to the mindset. Not the meat of the original album. :

[Snakebeast]

Definitely believe that him naming the title MMLP 2 had a point. He revisits those ideas and themes from a mature way like Hawk said...

"My mother reproduced like a komodo dragon
And had me on the back of a motorcycle
Then crashed in the side of loco-motive with rap, I'm loco
It's like handing a psycho a loaded handgun
Michelangelo with a paint gun in a tantrum
About to explode all over the canvas
Back with the Yoda of rap in a spasm"

Ohhh soooo matureeee just looook at that re-visitation

[EminemBase]

A re-visitation to the mindset. Not the meat of the original album. :

It's NOT a revisitation to the fucking mindset though!

HOW is it a revisitation to the mindset???

Because he's cocky, sarcastic and aludes to descriptive violence now 'n then?

Does he not do that on TES? or even Recovery? Fucking Cold Wind Blows is more of a consistent revistation to that mindset.

Eminem ALWAYS has some of this within his albums. So how the fuck does having 'some more of that' in MMLP2 make it MMLP!?, if it's not a true re-tackling of similar themes or not a similar concept... there is no connection of theme or concept, you fucking idiot.

[_Hawk_]

I have not invented anything. You are now getting fucking retarded mate.

He revisits the album by tackling it as the Magnum Opus that has held back the rest of his career. He is constantly compared back to it, and so on this album he once and for all shows how he can escape that comparison and thus breach the artistic-glass ceiling that holds him back.

Need I say more?
After this album, he will never be compared to the MMLP again. It isn't so much a sequel so much as a means of displacing it as (i will say it again) the elephant in the room.

This is not a badly made point, this is a fact that you are not willing to accept.

All of his albums can be connected by arguing they are 'honest', however they come from different perspectives. Encore was intended as means to end his career, TES was him pouring his life out, and MMLP was him violently reacting against his critics.
You said every album is reactionary, but this is too simple a statement. MMLP is the most reactionary: it starts and finishes with a fundamental fuck-you to everyone who was doubting him. MMLP2 follows this same formula, but the actual meat of the album takes a more contemporary spin.

It is obvious what Eminem was intending. You are too pig-headed and too fixated on this one notion of 'single-mindedness' to see the wood for the trees.

No I'm not too pig-headed, I understand your very simple points, they're very tedious and I completely understand what you're saying the album is.

I'm saying - that's a retarded and meaningless view of MMLP and means nothing, and may as well be any other Eminem album. You're a moron.

I'm not a moron, and your use of the word tedious is rather misplaced. Facts are only tedious to those too stupid to read and process them.

I simply stated my perspectives which many here support. You degenerating to insults to cause me to even stamp on your ridiculous fixations clearly highlights how insecure you are about what you're saying.

"this is a different time period in my life. So there's not gonna be like, continuations of every song or anything like that. To me, it's more about the vibe and the nostalgia."

I get all of that with this album, and if I explain why I am repeating myself.

[Trilla]

I don't see how MMLP 2 follows the same formula...

If it did, he would have attacked those who believe he's now a pop artist.

OH WHAT DO YOU KNOW!? He did attack those people who believed he was a pop artist back on the original MMLP! If he did it again on MMLP 2, then you could consider the album a revisitation.

But, nah. It's not. It's really just Eminem playing around with words again and fucking up his flow for the sake of the rhymes. It's like Relapse, except less consistent and with the name MMLP 2. Oh, and with Rihanna and Skylar Grey on there. +1 rapper...Kendrick.

I thought Em spent all his time reading dictionaries, he should probably look up the definition of "revisit".

[EminemBase]

I have not invented anything. You are now getting fucking retarded mate.

He revisits the album by tackling it as the Magnum Opus that has held back the rest of his career. He is constantly compared back to it, and so on this album he once and for all shows how he can escape that comparison and thus breach the artistic-glass ceiling that holds him back.

Need I say more?
After this album, he will never be compared to the MMLP again. It isn't so much a sequel so much as a means of displacing it as (i will say it again) the elephant in the room.

This is not a badly made point, this is a fact that you are not willing to accept.

All of his albums can be connected by arguing they are 'honest', however they come from different perspectives. Encore was intended as means to end his career, TES was him pouring his life out, and MMLP was him violently reacting against his critics.
You said every album is reactionary, but this is too simple a statement. MMLP is the most reactionary: it starts and finishes with a fundamental fuck-you to everyone who was doubting him. MMLP2 follows this same formula, but the actual meat of the album takes a more contemporary spin.

It is obvious what Eminem was intending. You are too pig-headed and too fixated on this one notion of 'single-mindedness' to see the wood for the trees.

No I'm not too pig-headed, I understand your very simple points, they're very tedious and I completely understand what you're saying the album is.

I'm saying - that's a retarded and meaningless view of MMLP and means nothing, and may as well be any other Eminem album. You're a moron.

I'm not a moron, and your use of the word tedious is rather misplaced. Facts are only tedious to those too stupid to read and process them.

I simply stated my perspectives which many here support. You degenerating to insults to cause me to even stamp on your ridiculous fixations clearly highlights how insecure you are about what you're saying.

"this is a different time period in my life. So there's not gonna be like, continuations of every song or anything like that. To me, it's more about the vibe and the nostalgia."

I get all of that with this album, and if I explain why I am repeating myself.

Facts? You've totally invented fictional intent as to why Eminem made this album and you're declaring it a fact lmfao.

And I actually only insulted you after you referred to me being retarded.

I usually only get personal when somebody takes it there, so don't bark at me if you don't want me to bite back. If you wanna keep it analytical, keep it that and don't be a childish dick.