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Re: MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

Postby Amadeo » Nov 10th, '13, 01:39

I'd say it is close between MMLP2 and Relapse. His flow was a lot smoother on Relapse, and he was aligning his lines correctly.

Though MMLP2 is the better album overall.
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Re: MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

Postby Kill You » Nov 10th, '13, 01:40

As if he's not aligning them correctly on MMLP2...Em is an expert at this craft. YOU are not.
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Re: MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

Postby Amadeo » Nov 10th, '13, 01:41

Kill You wrote:As if he's not aligning them correctly on MMLP2...Em is an expert at this craft. YOU are not.

Shut the fuck up, you idiotic Matthew.
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Re: MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

Postby SaneShadyFan » Nov 10th, '13, 01:59

beowafle wrote:Just relistened to Refill. Aaaaaaaand surprise surprise, I still enjoy Buffalo Bill more than most of MMLP2. Now don't get me wrong, I love MMLP2, but Eminem's flow since Bad Meets Evil... well I don't want to say I don't like it but I prefer the old one. It just seems to me that he raps so fast that he "stumbles over words" now...


Both Buffalo Bill and Music Box are better than most (if not all) the songs on MMLP 2. I wasn't the biggest Relapse fan, but I would still be interested in hearing some of the other non-released Relapse 2 songs.
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Re: MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

Postby superman11 » Nov 10th, '13, 02:16

pick your favorite or the best 15 tracks from all 3 albums and I'll take MMLP2 over it.
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Re: MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

Postby unmissingpiece » Nov 10th, '13, 03:58

I have to say... I prefer Relapse. I went back and listened to both of them. If you include Refill, I think Relapse wins by a small margin. Deja Vu, Stay Wide Awake, Music Box, and Same Song And Dance are just amazing. The only song that was amazing for me was Legacy on MMLP2.

I still don't get how Eminem could have left the bonus songs off the album. Personally, I feel like they were far better than some songs like Beautiful, We Made You, Crack a Bottle.

My Order: MMLP=TES>>SSLP≥Relapse>MMLP2>>Recovery>>>Encore.
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Re: MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

Postby Kill You » Nov 10th, '13, 03:59

Amadeo wrote:
Kill You wrote:As if he's not aligning them correctly on MMLP2...Em is an expert at this craft. YOU are not.

Shut the fuck up, you idiotic Matthew.


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Re: MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

Postby EminemBase » Nov 10th, '13, 04:30

Ku53v wrote:
EminemBase wrote:That's absolutely not true @ no substance.

If you take lines like...

"Slipped and fell, hit his back-bone, heard something go crack
Now he's up in the bathroom like he's busting a nap
Almost ended it that soon because of the fact ; I'm just busting my own chops while I'm bustin a rap"

It feels like most people just decided Relapse was rape and overlook every other element about it. In this little section... he's taking the piss out of his situation whilst using his life as fuel for the rhymes... this is what he used to do which made him so brilliant.

Rather than just going 'I collapsed from drugs. Shit was bad' blah blah, he parodies the situation and uses lyricism as a jumping off-point for reference...

Relapse is chock-full of this. It's witty as fuck. Yes there's some stupid lines in there, and he's provoking for the sake of it, but that's the point... he's relapsing in to a nutty state, which becomes the excuse for the provocation.

He basically walks that line of blurring reality with fiction properly again, like he does on "My Mom", which is similar to "Brain Damage" in that it takes a real story or concept from his life and turns it in to a clearly exaggerated storytelling scenario, allowing him much more freedom of expression with his description, voice acting, scenes etc.

Relapse mixes a lot of self-reference with self-parody and the writing style is so witty in how he phrases things in reference to himself as a character...

And that remains totally consistent throughout up until and including "Deja Vu".


What a load of horse shit :laughing: except for a handful of songs relapse has no content, even eminem would tell you that


Saying there's 'no content' because it's not content mainly about his personal life or stories from his real personal life is absolutely fucking retarded.

The definition of content is not introspection.
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Re: MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

Postby Satan » Nov 10th, '13, 04:31

SaneShadyFan wrote:
beowafle wrote:Just relistened to Refill. Aaaaaaaand surprise surprise, I still enjoy Buffalo Bill more than most of MMLP2. Now don't get me wrong, I love MMLP2, but Eminem's flow since Bad Meets Evil... well I don't want to say I don't like it but I prefer the old one. It just seems to me that he raps so fast that he "stumbles over words" now...


Both Buffalo Bill and Music Box are better than most (if not all) the songs on MMLP 2.

Boogieing down to Frank Sinatra with Christopher Reeves is just as good as Bad Guy imo.
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Re: MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

Postby 4Corners » Nov 10th, '13, 04:41

Buffalo Bill is a good song, but I don't see this amazing love it gets on here. I'll take Music Box and Drop the Bomb On Em over it.
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Re: MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

Postby Satan » Nov 10th, '13, 04:42

4Corners wrote:Buffalo Bill is a good song, but I don't see this amazing love it gets on here. I'll take Music Box and Drop the Bomb On Em over it.

Music Box is 6.5/10.
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Re: MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

Postby 4Corners » Nov 10th, '13, 04:46

Naw way. Music Box is the voice he should have used on Relapse. Music Box is ill.
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Re: MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

Postby EminemBase » Nov 10th, '13, 04:47

4Corners wrote:Naw way. Music Box is the voice he should have used on Relapse. Music Box is ill.


Well it was prolly intended for #2.

Which we would have gotten if Em didn't listen to 12 year olds.
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Re: MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

Postby 4Corners » Nov 10th, '13, 04:51

EminemBase wrote:
4Corners wrote:Naw way. Music Box is the voice he should have used on Relapse. Music Box is ill.


Well it was prolly intended for #2.

Which we would have gotten if Em didn't listen to 12 year olds.


I know it's hard to comprehend but a lot of his fans, more than just 12 year old girls, actually much much much more, liked Recovery more then Relapse.

INCOMING: An 11,000 word response from EmBase about how people are ignorant and Relapse is a magical piece of art that should be cherished for generations to come.
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Re: MMLP2 >> Recovery, Relapse, Encore (and it ain't close)

Postby EminemBase » Nov 10th, '13, 04:53

4Corners wrote:
EminemBase wrote:
4Corners wrote:Naw way. Music Box is the voice he should have used on Relapse. Music Box is ill.


Well it was prolly intended for #2.

Which we would have gotten if Em didn't listen to 12 year olds.


I know it's hard to comprehend but a lot of his fans, more than just 12 year old girls, actually much much much more, liked Recovery more then Relapse.

INCOMING: An 11,000 word response from EmBase about how people are ignorant and Relapse is a magical piece of art that should be cherished for generations to come.


No need, you already said it for me. :b:

(Also - a lot of his 'fans', yeah casual rap fans who dip in and out of Eminem, or Eminem fans who just want an update to the soap opera. I've yet to know or talk to an Eminem fan who truly understands his shit and has listened from day one who thinks Recovery is better than Relapse.)
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