I'd say it is close between MMLP2 and Relapse. His flow was a lot smoother on Relapse, and he was aligning his lines correctly.
Though MMLP2 is the better album overall.
Kill You wrote:As if he's not aligning them correctly on MMLP2...Em is an expert at this craft. YOU are not.
beowafle wrote:Just relistened to Refill. Aaaaaaaand surprise surprise, I still enjoy Buffalo Bill more than most of MMLP2. Now don't get me wrong, I love MMLP2, but Eminem's flow since Bad Meets Evil... well I don't want to say I don't like it but I prefer the old one. It just seems to me that he raps so fast that he "stumbles over words" now...
Amadeo wrote:Kill You wrote:As if he's not aligning them correctly on MMLP2...Em is an expert at this craft. YOU are not.
Shut the fuck up, you idiotic Matthew.
Ku53v wrote:EminemBase wrote:That's absolutely not true @ no substance.
If you take lines like...
"Slipped and fell, hit his back-bone, heard something go crack
Now he's up in the bathroom like he's busting a nap
Almost ended it that soon because of the fact ; I'm just busting my own chops while I'm bustin a rap"
It feels like most people just decided Relapse was rape and overlook every other element about it. In this little section... he's taking the piss out of his situation whilst using his life as fuel for the rhymes... this is what he used to do which made him so brilliant.
Rather than just going 'I collapsed from drugs. Shit was bad' blah blah, he parodies the situation and uses lyricism as a jumping off-point for reference...
Relapse is chock-full of this. It's witty as fuck. Yes there's some stupid lines in there, and he's provoking for the sake of it, but that's the point... he's relapsing in to a nutty state, which becomes the excuse for the provocation.
He basically walks that line of blurring reality with fiction properly again, like he does on "My Mom", which is similar to "Brain Damage" in that it takes a real story or concept from his life and turns it in to a clearly exaggerated storytelling scenario, allowing him much more freedom of expression with his description, voice acting, scenes etc.
Relapse mixes a lot of self-reference with self-parody and the writing style is so witty in how he phrases things in reference to himself as a character...
And that remains totally consistent throughout up until and including "Deja Vu".
What a load of horse shitexcept for a handful of songs relapse has no content, even eminem would tell you that
SaneShadyFan wrote:beowafle wrote:Just relistened to Refill. Aaaaaaaand surprise surprise, I still enjoy Buffalo Bill more than most of MMLP2. Now don't get me wrong, I love MMLP2, but Eminem's flow since Bad Meets Evil... well I don't want to say I don't like it but I prefer the old one. It just seems to me that he raps so fast that he "stumbles over words" now...
Both Buffalo Bill and Music Box are better than most (if not all) the songs on MMLP 2.
4Corners wrote:Buffalo Bill is a good song, but I don't see this amazing love it gets on here. I'll take Music Box and Drop the Bomb On Em over it.
4Corners wrote:Naw way. Music Box is the voice he should have used on Relapse. Music Box is ill.
EminemBase wrote:4Corners wrote:Naw way. Music Box is the voice he should have used on Relapse. Music Box is ill.
Well it was prolly intended for #2.
Which we would have gotten if Em didn't listen to 12 year olds.
4Corners wrote:EminemBase wrote:4Corners wrote:Naw way. Music Box is the voice he should have used on Relapse. Music Box is ill.
Well it was prolly intended for #2.
Which we would have gotten if Em didn't listen to 12 year olds.
I know it's hard to comprehend but a lot of his fans, more than just 12 year old girls, actually much much much more, liked Recovery more then Relapse.
INCOMING: An 11,000 word response from EmBase about how people are ignorant and Relapse is a magical piece of art that should be cherished for generations to come.
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