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Re: Bobby Ray makes better MUSIC then Eminem

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Jul 16th, '10, 20:35

classthe_king wrote:Actually it was the opposite for me. When I first heard it I really liked it and thought it was the best song on Recovery but its been played by chicks so much in cars now that I am starting to dislike it.


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Re: Bobby Ray makes better MUSIC then Eminem

Postby classthe_king » Jul 16th, '10, 20:35

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Re: Bobby Ray makes better MUSIC then Eminem

Postby EminemBase » Jul 16th, '10, 20:40

classthe_king wrote:
Amadeo wrote:Love The Way You Lie is lyrically miles ahead of Don't Let Me Fall. It's not even a contest.

Don't even get me started on how much better DEJA VU is.


The chorus to love the way you lie is great but Em's verses are average, and I've never liked Deja Vu so :whistle:


I love B.o.B, that song and his album.

But Em has put out better than that. Then again, I mean if we're talking a full musical accomplishment then yes it is ahead of most of Em's recent stuff.

But... "Almost Famous" shits all over it for me. As does "Cinderella Man".

This is the thing though, many people are already comparing just lyricism when the OP clearly stated he's talking MUSIC, full musicality. Not just lyrics.
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Re: Bobby Ray makes better MUSIC then Eminem

Postby classthe_king » Jul 16th, '10, 20:47

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classthe_king wrote:
Amadeo wrote:Love The Way You Lie is lyrically miles ahead of Don't Let Me Fall. It's not even a contest.

Don't even get me started on how much better DEJA VU is.


The chorus to love the way you lie is great but Em's verses are average, and I've never liked Deja Vu so :whistle:


I love B.o.B, that song and his album.

But Em has put out better than that. Then again, I mean if we're talking a full musical accomplishment then yes it is ahead of most of Em's recent stuff.

But... "Almost Famous" shits all over it for me. As does "Cinderella Man".

This is the thing though, many people are already comparing just lyricism when the OP clearly stated he's talking MUSIC, full musicality. Not just lyrics.


Of course I'm not talking lyrically.


I also like No Apologies better but that was technically from the 02-03 period
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Re: Bobby Ray makes better MUSIC then Eminem

Postby EminemBase » Jul 16th, '10, 20:48

^ Yeah I know you're not.

But scanning through the pages I see people who are refuting you are talking precisely lyricism and that only lmao. So just pointing out you don't mean that.
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Re: Bobby Ray makes better MUSIC then Eminem

Postby classthe_king » Jul 16th, '10, 20:49

EminemBase wrote:^ Yeah I know you're not.

But scanning through the pages I see people who are refuting you are talking precisely lyricism and that only lmao. So just pointing out you don't mean that.


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Re: Bobby Ray makes better MUSIC then Eminem

Postby Jaz » Jul 16th, '10, 20:49

Not even really a fan of BoB.. He's got some solid tracks but I really just don't see anything special.
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Re: Bobby Ray makes better MUSIC then Eminem

Postby slimsoxshady » Jul 16th, '10, 21:07

I thought "Bet I" was the best song on BoB's album and theres like 12 songs on Recovery that are better imo...the OP is just trying to say that just because BoB sounds more musical (in technical terms), that means his sound is better

Recovery is real rap, Em's verses are some of the hardest shit he's dropped in his career, sound wise...whether that takes away from its "musical" value depends on who you ask and what kind of "music" they prefer

Thats almost like some people saying that rap is not music, its just noise pollution
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Re: Bobby Ray makes better MUSIC then Eminem

Postby Almostlity » Jul 16th, '10, 21:09

slimsoxshady wrote:I thought "Bet I" was the best song on BoB's album and theres like 12 songs on Recovery that are better imo...the OP is just trying to say that just because BoB sounds more musical (in technical terms), that means his sound is better

Recovery is real rap, Em's verses are some of the hardest shit he's dropped in his career, sound wise...whether that takes away from its "musical" value depends on who you ask and what kind of "music" they prefer

Thats almost like some people saying that rap is not music, its just noise pollution


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Re: Bobby Ray makes better MUSIC then Eminem

Postby classthe_king » Jul 16th, '10, 21:10

slimsoxshady wrote:I thought "Bet I" was the best song on BoB's album and theres like 12 songs on Recovery that are better imo...the OP is just trying to say that just because BoB sounds more musical (in technical terms), that means his sound is better

Recovery is real rap, Em's verses are some of the hardest shit he's dropped in his career, sound wise...whether that takes away from its "musical" value depends on who you ask and what kind of "music" they prefer

If you're talking about pop music, BoB has Em beat by a wide margin...if you're talking about rap music, Em is miles ahead as BoB's album struggled to have even 2 verse songs of actual rapping
Thats almost like some people saying that rap is not music, its just noise pollution


Bet I was one of the worst songs on the album.
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Re: Bobby Ray makes better MUSIC then Eminem

Postby slimsoxshady » Jul 16th, '10, 21:13

if the OP made this topic saying "Bob makes better POP MUSIC than Eminem" I would have agreed 100%...but last time I checked, Eminem is a rapper and his album has more than just 1 rapped verse per song
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Re: Bobby Ray makes better MUSIC then Eminem

Postby EminemBase » Jul 16th, '10, 21:15

classthe_king wrote:
slimsoxshady wrote:I thought "Bet I" was the best song on BoB's album and theres like 12 songs on Recovery that are better imo...the OP is just trying to say that just because BoB sounds more musical (in technical terms), that means his sound is better

Recovery is real rap, Em's verses are some of the hardest shit he's dropped in his career, sound wise...whether that takes away from its "musical" value depends on who you ask and what kind of "music" they prefer

If you're talking about pop music, BoB has Em beat by a wide margin...if you're talking about rap music, Em is miles ahead as BoB's album struggled to have even 2 verse songs of actual rapping
Thats almost like some people saying that rap is not music, its just noise pollution


Bet I was one of the worst songs on the album.


Indeed. :b:

Best songs are / were, "Don't Let Me Fall", "Ghost in the Machine", "The Kids" and "Letters from Vietnam". Although I think the final was a bonus.

So many good bonus tracks he should of included.
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Re: Bobby Ray makes better MUSIC then Eminem

Postby slimsoxshady » Jul 16th, '10, 21:17

the fact that I picked an actual rap song as my favorite song off the album should tell you that I'm not into this other "MUSIC" on his album
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Re: Bobby Ray makes better MUSIC then Eminem

Postby classthe_king » Jul 16th, '10, 21:17

EminemBase wrote:
classthe_king wrote:
slimsoxshady wrote:I thought "Bet I" was the best song on BoB's album and theres like 12 songs on Recovery that are better imo...the OP is just trying to say that just because BoB sounds more musical (in technical terms), that means his sound is better

Recovery is real rap, Em's verses are some of the hardest shit he's dropped in his career, sound wise...whether that takes away from its "musical" value depends on who you ask and what kind of "music" they prefer

If you're talking about pop music, BoB has Em beat by a wide margin...if you're talking about rap music, Em is miles ahead as BoB's album struggled to have even 2 verse songs of actual rapping
Thats almost like some people saying that rap is not music, its just noise pollution


Bet I was one of the worst songs on the album.


Indeed. :b:

Best songs are / were, "Don't Let Me Fall", "Ghost in the Machine", "The Kids" and "Letters from Vietnam". Although I think the final was a bonus.

So many good bonus tracks he should of included.


Throw in Past My Shades and you've basically got it.



Edit: The fact that you listen to and enjoy music by Lil Wayne proves that your opinion doesn't matter much
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Re: Bobby Ray makes better MUSIC then Eminem

Postby EminemBase » Jul 16th, '10, 21:17

slimsoxshady wrote:if the OP made this topic saying "Bob makes better POP MUSIC than Eminem" I would have agreed 100%...but last time I checked, Eminem is a rapper and his album has more than just 1 rapped verse per song


Not rapping doesn't automatically make the music POP.

B.o.B's themes in his lyricism and his structure alone discard it from being pop. He blends many genres, he's not one thing and he's not pertaining to be.

He likes the ambiguity, he blends everything.
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