Eminem is more vulnerable to attack now than he ever was

[stillmatic]

Eminem did songs with trash like Minaj, Nas did songs with trash like Khaled and Wayne, so has Jay, so did Scarface, so did many members of the Wu, so did Mobb Deep, Cube's done silly movies, LL completly switched his style, Rakim's long awaited comeback was below par and so forth.

It just happens. You simply cannot expect an artist to go through a career without making some decisions they probably wouldn't want to. It's just business.

Who gives it a shit if it makes them vulnerable, their legacy won't be built on some of their average decision making, it's built on their peak, prime and better work.

[TheGentlePlayer]

Selling out with an ice tea commercial? Making crap songs with Nicki Minaj and Puff Daddy? Writing crap punch lines?

So many things people can diss him for.

1: He didn't sell out
2: Romans Revenge was the best song on Pink Friday and everybody want a music video for it.
3: Puff Daddy was just a remix he did to see how he could match the beat. And his vers was good.
4: He is writing better then 90% of the dudes out these, and he is getting better and better.

So...
5: Shut the fuck up!

[shadybaby46]

Best thread I've seen here in a while, props to the OP. Like someone else before me said, The Warning was the last really cool thing he did where he seemed to have that fire in his belly again. Em has without doubt been uninspired lately; I'd mark his collab with Nicki on "Roman's Revenge" as his worst featre of all time. Some of the lines he uses in it are facepalm worthy. I'm sick of the shouting and shitty punchlines. Yes sometimes it worked; it worked on Recovery because it was fresh and new, and songs like Almost Famous and Cold Wind Blows really blended well with that style. But he needs a new direction now. To be honest, as I've already said before, I really wouldn't mind if he stepped back from the limelight for a while and came back with new material in 2012. I know we all wanna hear new Em stuff all the time but it's getting to the point where I'm barely excited at the prospect of hearing a new song or seeing a new performance right now. The few months before Recovery and Relapse dropped I was excited as fuck and really couldn't wait, but now whenever a new Em joint drops there's hardly any anticipation. The constant leaks have definitely done more harm than good. I'd say out of all the new songs we weren't supposed to hear (note INAD isn't included in this as we would've got to hear it anyway) that Cocaine and Echo are the only ones that are genuinelly good tracks. I'd honestly think it would be a good thing if he wasn't on anything in 2011 but say, a track on the Slaughterhouse album and 1 more track on Detox. He needs time to step back and develop new content and head in a different direction, and we need time off from him so we can start appreciating him again and actually be pumped when something new drops.

what does any of that have to do with the thread?

[DanWS]

Best thread I've seen here in a while, props to the OP. Like someone else before me said, The Warning was the last really cool thing he did where he seemed to have that fire in his belly again. Em has without doubt been uninspired lately; I'd mark his collab with Nicki on "Roman's Revenge" as his worst featre of all time. Some of the lines he uses in it are facepalm worthy. I'm sick of the shouting and shitty punchlines. Yes sometimes it worked; it worked on Recovery because it was fresh and new, and songs like Almost Famous and Cold Wind Blows really blended well with that style. But he needs a new direction now. To be honest, as I've already said before, I really wouldn't mind if he stepped back from the limelight for a while and came back with new material in 2012. I know we all wanna hear new Em stuff all the time but it's getting to the point where I'm barely excited at the prospect of hearing a new song or seeing a new performance right now. The few months before Recovery and Relapse dropped I was excited as fuck and really couldn't wait, but now whenever a new Em joint drops there's hardly any anticipation. The constant leaks have definitely done more harm than good. I'd say out of all the new songs we weren't supposed to hear (note INAD isn't included in this as we would've got to hear it anyway) that Cocaine and Echo are the only ones that are genuinelly good tracks. I'd honestly think it would be a good thing if he wasn't on anything in 2011 but say, a track on the Slaughterhouse album and 1 more track on Detox. He needs time to step back and develop new content and head in a different direction, and we need time off from him so we can start appreciating him again and actually be pumped when something new drops.

what does any of that have to do with the thread?

From the OP:
"Making crap songs with Nicki Minaj and Puff Daddy? Writing crap punch lines?"

Can you not see in my post how I'm talking about this subpar material he has been putting out recently? Sure the part about not minding if Em stepped out of the limelight is a bit of a tangent, but so what?

[dR3]

endorsing ice tea for a pay day is selling-out.

Thing is though, he didn't do it for money.

[RealSickLindley]

Lucky for him, he's made good friends.

Royce- who IMO would fuck Em in a back and forth beef.
The rest of Slaughterhouse- all beasts that have proved that they can hit rappers.
Jay Z- he's king of the humiliating subliminals.
Lupe Fiasco- would make Em sound stupid, but he adores him.

The only way that Em would get in to beef, is if he answered to the lesser artists, like Canibus. But he said he's not going to do that.

HOWEVER.

Don't put past D12 taking a few digs, with maybe Em hopping on board with a subliminal or two..

'I'll bite the face of your baby, for anyone dissing Proof or Halie'

[The Shady Virus]

He has plenty to gain.

He's lost a TON of respect from the underground fans. He'd gain a lot of it back if he actually tore someone a new asshole.

Who gives a fuck. The underground people are usually the ones stealing his shit anyways. The mainstream is the shit he is getting payed for. Cole said it best.

“Either you play the game or watch the game play you, and be that broke muthaf*cker talkin bout “I stay true” - J. Cole

[BILI]

The warning already proved that if you piss him off you can get it.

[N.W.A.]

I'm pretty sure Em can still bring it hard if he had to. "Had to" being the key words there.

[RossMc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbHPpdPhlic

"Eminem is the only rapper that nobody ever wants a problem with"

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[Devil'sAdvocate]

Em will always be attacked.

[BigBangBazinga]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbHPpdPhlic

"Eminem is the only rapper that nobody ever wants a problem with"

/Thread

[ShadyNarkoticz]

3: Puff Daddy was just a remix he did to see how he could match the beat. And his vers was good.

Just... no.

And no one dares to diss Eminem. You won't just lose the battle but your career will be over.

[DƎRDYPK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbHPpdPhlic

"Eminem is the only rapper that nobody ever wants a problem with"

/Thread

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"no white rapper could ever see me flow"

[xxTrigger1989xx]

^ Wack, I'm sorry :/