Em's Rap God Speed / Complexity...

[Elision]

eminem is the best ever. it's not arguable. and he knows it. some people can not realize it, and that's fine with me and with him. his new material (yes sometimes subliminally) disses other mainstream rappers (those he considers his competition) up and down in a way he's never done before, not just with his words but with his attitude and flow, and again, some people can not see that and it's fine

[Solace]

trshady isn't a website. it's not arguable. it's made up in your minds. floating in conckaplon, a planet on the edge of saturn's 12th ring. again, some people can not see that and it's fine

[kkaniff]

I see lot of incredulous responses ITT, and I'm not particularly known for my sensitivity/diplomacy so imma just say it:
Solace, Elision, StanBase y'all are idiots.
Why? He thinks Eminem is the GOAT, and he's so convinced of it that you can't change his mind and y'all are acting like he said something absurd.
'Arguably' is something people put after a declarative statement when they don't want to offend some pussy's sensibilities; the pussies in this scenario being you.
'Arguably' means 'I acknowlege that you might have a different view from mine and I respect that' it is not a required addition to every declarative statement like y'all seem to think. Especially now, as the statement in question is pretty much close to truth.
Melanie: flee from Backstage, it is evil
Rollefsen: saying it's unarguable isn't delusional, it isn't 'Stannish', he's probably considered the opposition; Pac, Big, Nas and Camel and found them wanting. As I have.
csw621: you either show admirable conviction or extreme Stannism. Anyway it's a welcome relief from all the pussy, I-don't-want-to-make-broad-statements-that-make-me-look-like-a-stan shit that I've had to read on here.
Hope I offended at least one person with what I just typed.
Peace.

[Elision]

I see lot of incredulous responses ITT, and I'm not particularly known for my sensitivity/diplomacy so imma just say it:
Solace, Elision, StanBase y'all are idiots.
Why? He thinks Eminem is the GOAT, and he's so convinced of it that you can't change his mind and y'all are acting like he said something absurd.

that's because he said something absurd.

'Arguably' is something people put after a declarative statement when they don't want to offend some pussy's sensibilities; the pussies in this scenario being you.
'Arguably' means 'I acknowlege that you might have a different view from mine and I respect that' it is not a required addition to every declarative statement like y'all seem to think. Especially now, as the statement in question is pretty much close to truth.

when did I use this word? and the statement in question isn't even in the same solar system as the truth.

Hope I offended at least one person with what I just typed.

so edgy. so bold.

[ganjakush56]

I see lot of incredulous responses ITT, and I'm not particularly known for my sensitivity/diplomacy so imma just say it:
Solace, Elision, StanBase y'all are idiots.
Why? He thinks Eminem is the GOAT, and he's so convinced of it that you can't change his mind and y'all are acting like he said something absurd.
'Arguably' is something people put after a declarative statement when they don't want to offend some pussy's sensibilities; the pussies in this scenario being you.
'Arguably' means 'I acknowlege that you might have a different view from mine and I respect that' it is not a required addition to every declarative statement like y'all seem to think. Especially now, as the statement in question is pretty much close to truth.
Melanie: flee from Backstage, it is evil
Rollefsen: saying it's unarguable isn't delusional, it isn't 'Stannish', he's probably considered the opposition; Pac, Big, Nas and Camel and found them wanting. As I have.
csw621: you either show admirable conviction or extreme Stannism. Anyway it's a welcome relief from all the pussy, I-don't-want-to-make-broad-statements-that-make-me-look-like-a-stan shit that I've had to read on here.
Hope I offended at least one person with what I just typed.
Peace.

Eminem is not THE goat. Someone who cannot understand why that is a delusional immature retarded stanning fool and needs to broaden their understanding of hip-hop and art in general. Putting "arguable" at the end of a point is not being a pussy (again - ). It is merely grounding your opinion in a legitimate realm of thought instead of exclaiming like a fucking idiot/12 year old, "EMINEM IS THE BEST!!" Because the fact is, it can be argued whether or not Eminem or any other artist of any medium is the best at their craft because the measure of artistic talent is a subjective one. In order to come to at least a somewhat sound conclusion, one must cover all their bases by exposing themselves to as much art as possible in order to foster an unbiased discussion of the artist of question.

When it is all said and done, there is no "BEST" in any medium of art. Fuck a stan for implying that eminem is the best - that is an insult to the genre and culture that is called hip-hop because you are discrediting all the artist that have come before him, that have influenced him, and are not acknowledging all of the artists that do things that Eminem cannot do. There is only going to be one Eminem but there is also only going to be one Big L, Jay-Z, Nas, Biggie, 2pac, KRS, Public Enemy, Kurupt, Lauryn Hill, Ice Cube, Treach, Wu-Tang, Big Pun, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, El-P, Cunninlynguists, Immortal Technique, Mos Def, Busta, Kanye, Rakim, Tribe, Run DMC, MC Lyte, Sugar Hill Gang, Bun B, Andre 3K, Scarface and the list goes on and on. So i say politely - shut the fuck up.

[kkaniff]

@ganjakush
I actually had a semi-polite response to your post half-way typed out, but I had to abandon it when confronted with the staggeringly idiotic cluster of words that is the second half of your post.

When it is all said and done, there is
no "BEST" in any medium of art. Fuck
a stan for implying that eminem is the
best - that is an insult to the genre
and culture that is called hip-hop
because you are discrediting all the
artist that have come before him, that
have influenced him, and are not
acknowledging all of the artists that do
things that Eminem cannot do

This particularly fine nugget of idiocy, which stood out even among the virtual torrent of stupid that was the lower half of your post, caught my attention.
I bolded it so you can see it better, maybe you typed it out when you were half-asleep, or something.
So implying that Eminem is the best is an insult to hip-hop? How about implying that Nas is the best, or Pac or Hov? Surely that's an insult to hip-hop too, right?
I'm sure that has never been done, I'm sure hip-hop heads and publications don't do that, right?
I'm sure that music reviewers and art critics don't measure the quality of art and rate them, right?
How about end of year best music lists? Or greatest artists of all time lists?
B-b-but, music is subjective, there's no objective best get the entire fuck outta here.
@Elision
I'm going to be brief, cws said Eminem is unarguably the greatest of all time, that's an opinion. Why do you have a problem with it?

[ganjakush56]

@kkaniff

of course people still try to talk about who is the best. My point is till valid. You ever wonder why no one comes to a collective decision on who is the BEST? The answer is that there is no fucking BEST. There are only favorites.

And you actually use greatest of all time lists, music publications, and random critics to help you make your own fucking decisions regarding your music taste? They too are merely expressing a subjective opinion (redundant because an opinion is by definition subjective). Too suggest otherwise is lunacy.

[Elision]

So implying that Eminem is the best is an insult to hip-hop? How about implying that Nas is the best, or Pac or Hov? Surely that's an insult to hip-hop too, right?

yes.

@Elision
I'm going to be brief, cws said Eminem is unarguably the greatest of all time, that's an opinion. Why do you have a problem with it?

Because it's not an opinion to him. He's spouting it like it's an objective fact that can't be disputed.

[kkaniff]

@Elision
Of course he says it like it's fact, because he believes it to be true. Doesn't stop it from being just an opinion though.
Do you ever say to your girlfriend 'I love you the most, arguably', or 'you're arguably the best gf in the world' or 'I arguably am the happiest man in the world'?

[Elision]

@Elision
Of course he says it like it's fact, because he believes it to be true. Doesn't stop it from being just an opinion though.
Do you ever say to your girlfriend 'I love you the most, arguably', or 'you're arguably the best gf in the world' or 'I arguably am the happiest man in the world'?

Given that he doesn't believe it's an opinion, what relevance is it here whether or not it actually is? And no, I don't say those things period.

[Solace]

Solace, Elision, StanBase y'all are idiots.

this statement is false. it's not arguable. you're wrong and i'm right. again, you can not see that and it's fine

[ganjakush56]

@kkaniff

quit while you still can. you are at risk of getting completely ethered.

[TheBoss123]

You dont see the same backlash whenever someone says pac, nas, or biggie is the best. But if you think Eminem is the best, youre a no-nothing stan? that is bullshit. I do think Eminem is the best, and you can make a case for other rappers, but i dont see how someone thinking eminem is the best, is an insult to the culture. Youre not discrediting anyone, if Eminem is the best it doesnt mean the rest dont have anything to offer thats also incredible. Yall have a culmination of the right ideas, sometimes shit is taken way to the extreme on both sides, boldly stated as facts on this forum. The culmination of what Eminem is, to me is what makes him the best, it doesnt mean hes the absolute best in every category.

im sure someone will tear me apart for this despite having no malicious intent. but thats my 2 cents.

[kkaniff]

@ganjakush come at me
@Solace lol
@Elision cool

[Elision]

@ganjakush come at me
@Solace lol
@Elision cool