Recovery is Very Fucking Good...

[EminemBase]

I've liked it since it came out and have been listening to it on and off since then too. I go through different periods with it. But right now, just listening to my favourite tracks again, it's a very solid album. And the good material is really fucking good.

I do think that, given the fact it was his 'comeback' and all the attention and expectations etc. that neither Relapse or Recovery were truly looked at with a sober eye. Not to say I think he was done a critical disjustice, most were pretty fair.

BUT I do think the appreciation for both will improve majorly overtime. It's already happening with Relapse. People who at first couldn't stand it have since stopped protesting it on the grounds of content and actually listened to it, all seem to like it a lot more.

I'm not saying btw that Recovery touches the sides of the first three. But it's a very solid album. There isn't a weak track on it, and every track sounds like it should be there. It's just the sporadic production that makes it feel kind of... aimless / random.

[flyingmonkey10]

meh

[EminemBase]

id pick sslp/mmlp/tes/over it

I'm not saying btw that Recovery touches the sides of the first three.

[SoldierShady]

Meh. Like I said before, his flow is way too repetitive on Recovery. Not that solid for an (Eminem) album if you ask me. There ARE a few brilliant tracks but that's it. Album's not brilliant throughout.

[SatansAngel]

Recovery made me appreciate Relapse a lot more.

[Atone]

Latly i been bumpin alot of Recovery whenever i'm writin, but normally i listen to debute albums to get that motivation to write somethin that i would want ppl to hear from me for the 1st time, so usually i listen to

Eminem: Infinite
Eminem: Slim Shady LP
Obie Trice: Cheers
The Game: Documentary

and everything from Ludacris

but in my opinion, eminem p-ut alot of great work into recovery, with the exeption of Love The Way You Lie, i listen to that entire album at least once a week, it took me time to enjoy "No Love" but it's the same for me with every eminem album, with Slim Shady LP it's Guilty Concience that i don't like, with Marshal Mathers LP, it's "Stan" that i don't listen to, i like it, but i don't listen to it much anymore, with Eminem Show, it's Haily's song, Encore it's the track with d12, with Relapse, it's Ganja, so yeah, eminem has flaws on every album, nobody is perfect, not even your hero

[Drucifer]

I liked the Recovery album when it dropped and my opinion hasnt changed on that.

Do I want him to make it again??........No, but it was refreshing to hear Em rap about some normal stuff through the course of an entire album more or less. Diversity is the key, Recovery was a more mainstream album, but for him that was diffrent. For Em to have released Relapse 2 would have been predictable and expected. You hear Eminem, you automatically expect some Psycho-path shit, so to hear Em rhyme a love song with rhianna was as left field and unexpected as hearing Jay-Z rap about raping and murdering Beyonce. And he pulled if off well, with a CD that was pretty enjoyable.

But like I said, I dont wanna hear him do it over and over like most cats do, so hopefully on the next one he'll find summin else to concentrate on............

[Elision]

Man fuck yall, I've always thought Recovery was dope. And lyrically, it's his best album to date.

[Fa-Q]

lyrically, it's his best album to date.

I just coughed up a english muffin when you said that

[katha]

I agree, Recovery is a very good album. I think what's going on right now is the usual backlash. The first hype has died down and everybody is picking up on things they didn't like and magnifying them to the nth degree. Plus, the leaks lately have been a mixed bag so there's this general doomsday atmosphere.

Apart from Won't Back Down, Seduction and Not Afraid (though I do listen to that sometimes for the lolz), the album holds up very well IMO. And it should have gotten better reviews. At least compared to all the other dreck that gets praised to high heaven. But I have a theory that in some critical circles it's more about wanting Eminem to be over and irrelevant because they said so, and the reviews become an outlet for that.

[UnIquEEniGma]

lyrically, it's his best album to date.

I just coughed up a english muffin when you said that

Yeah yeah..recoverys...ok...umm
Do you have the video in your picture?
nahh jokes.
Recoverys a step in the right direction. His next album will decide his legacy in my opinion.

[EminemBase]

But I have a theory that in some critical circles it's more about wanting Eminem to be over and irrelevant because they said so, and the reviews become an outlet for that.

There's definitely some of that.

I wouldn't like to use that as an excuse for a bad review but some of the critics make it so obvious. They're so lame and bad at hiding it.

Especially gay writers who STILL think Eminem is a homophobe and still don't seem to understand irony. Despite attempting to use it several times in their lackluster 'reviews' lmao. They make it so obvious it's personal gripe / bias from that.

Also, like you said - Some feel the need to justify past statements of him being washed-up as opposed to admitting to being wrong. They all ruin the quality of criticism by bringing personal annoyance and justification so strong into it.

Critics (hundreds of years ago) used to be genuinely respected intellects. Now they're a laughing stock. Ever since they thought their reviews were worth more than the art they were reviewing. They also all seem to think they need to qualify the title of "critic" by criticizing SOMETHING even when they clearly don't feel there's much to criticize lmao.

Which is just bad criticism. If you objectively examine something, well as best as you 'objectively' can and feel there's little to no flaw, the proper response is to say so - Not try and criticize trivial aspects for the sake of feeling that's your job.

Critic is a bad title. Well, it's a good title for the cunts who do it now. But in its original form 'Examiner' would of been a more fitting one.

[Drucifer]

If your not being hated on that means you did summin wrong. All the greats get shit on.

I'm 26, I remember when Pac was actually alive and he got the same kinda criticism, everybody who didnt love him hated his guts. Wasnt till he died that the world decided to collectively kiss his ass.

But when he was here???...........Man, that All Eyez on me album got som many horrible reviews it isnt even funny.

[Elision]

lyrically, it's his best album to date.

I just coughed up a english muffin when you said that

I meant wordplay and stuff. His double/triple entendre's and stuff. Those really creative multi's that make you think.

[HereHere]

I agree Embase except that I've always loved the album lol. There are some parts of the album that are weaker than others and it does seem a bit random compared to his other albums but it's still an amazing album.