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Interesting theory about Encore

Postby Mr Change » Sep 14th, '11, 22:10

So I was thinking about Encore this morning, and all the random crappy filler songs(As usual when you think of Encore,), and I got an idea.

It doesn't really make sense for the so called 'encore' to his 'show' to have as many songs as the show itself.

So, with that in mind, I thought maybe alittle while after The Eminem Show came out and after he finished the tours, got hooked on prescription drugs and had nothing else to talk about, he had no intention to make another album. Think about it, I think he was just gonna sit back and watch his label the rest of his career. He was too lazy and drugged out to keep making music.

Now, somwhere along this time he got the idea to record a career ending 10 track EP, Encore, made out of some left overs from TES and some new material.

1. Curtains Up
2. Never Enough
3. Yellow Brick Road
4. Love You More
5. We As Americans
7. Mockingbird
8. One Shot 2 Shot
9. Final Thought
10. Encore/Curtains Down


Look closely, you have your Kim song, your anti-establishment song, a song about his daughters, a feature with D12. Pretty much every aspect Eminem would need to touch on or have to end his career. I think once he announced this so suddenly, he was pressured heavily into making a full album instead without fully announcing a retirement. He would then make several filler songs (Rain Man, Big Weenie, Ass Like That) as well as others he hadn't originally intended to have on it (Spend Some Time, Evil Deeds, Like Toy Soldiers, Just Lose It as the catchy single), thus giving us what we got.

What do you guys think? :sweating:
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Re: Interesting theory about Encore

Postby ColdWindCriminal » Sep 14th, '11, 22:16

Good, but I'd like it to be a full album with those songs, plus Spend Some Time, Toy Soldiers, Just Lose It (yeah, I liked the song), Evil Deeds, Canibitch, Ricky Ticky Tock
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Re: Interesting theory about Encore

Postby Mr Change » Sep 14th, '11, 22:18

ColdWindCriminal wrote:Good, but I'd like it to be a full album with those songs, plus Spend Some Time, Toy Soldiers, Just Lose It (yeah, I liked the song), Evil Deeds, Canibitch, Ricky Ticky Tock


Whether it would be better or not, I was just saying what I thought he might have actually planned on doing in the first place
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Re: Interesting theory about Encore

Postby Sam. » Sep 14th, '11, 22:25

None of those songs can be a "TES" left over .They are pure Encore material.
Love You More is a possibility but the voice is different . :-k
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Re: Interesting theory about Encore

Postby richard » Sep 14th, '11, 22:26

Seeing as the 'filler' songs on his other albums don't suck nearly as much as half of 'Encore', I disagree with this. He was just fucked up.
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Re: Interesting theory about Encore

Postby Mr Change » Sep 14th, '11, 22:29

Sam. wrote:None of those songs can be a "TES" left over .They are pure Encore material.
Love You More is a possibility but the voice is different . :-k


You never know mayne

richard wrote:Seeing as the 'filler' songs on his other albums don't suck nearly as much as half of 'Encore', I disagree with this. He was just fucked up.


I'm saying the reason the 'filler' songs sucked on his was he was 'fucked up', out of ideas, depressed, etc. etc. I'm going with the idea that the Encore EP may have consisted of already written material.
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Re: Interesting theory about Encore

Postby SajN » Sep 14th, '11, 22:36

In his book he states that when his songs leaked out (the bonus tracks and a few more I think), he didn't know what to write anymore, and he was somewhere with Dr.Dre and while in booth he suddenly said "Raaaiiin Maaaan" and that's how some of the songs were made...

I don't quite remember exact.
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Re: Interesting theory about Encore

Postby Sam. » Sep 14th, '11, 22:38

The entire tone is different ,the voice the beats ,pretty much everything . I don't get it how can be left overs of "TES" .
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Re: Interesting theory about Encore

Postby richard » Sep 14th, '11, 22:42

GoinThruChanges wrote:
richard wrote:Seeing as the 'filler' songs on his other albums don't suck nearly as much as half of 'Encore', I disagree with this. He was just fucked up.


I'm saying the reason the 'filler' songs sucked on his was he was 'fucked up', out of ideas, depressed, etc. etc. I'm going with the idea that the Encore EP may have consisted of already written material.


Oh. Well that would have been nice, and less of a stain on his legacy.
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Re: Interesting theory about Encore

Postby Mr Change » Sep 14th, '11, 23:09

Aside from it being leftover lyrics from TES or not, do you guys think that Encore could originally have been an EP with those songs I mentioned? thats the main idea...
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Re: Interesting theory about Encore

Postby Solace » Sep 15th, '11, 00:03

No, I don't at all. Eminem doesn't even do EP's, aside from SSEP from before he was even signed. Encore was to be a whole album. And then his shit got leaked and he was forced to rush and make more shitty songs and resulted in a shitty album.
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Re: Interesting theory about Encore

Postby illegalweapons » Sep 15th, '11, 00:21

Encore is an ok album....fuck haters
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Re: Interesting theory about Encore

Postby Amaranthine » Sep 15th, '11, 00:32

illegalweapons wrote:Encore is an ok album....fuck haters

Yeah, it's an "ok" album among the rest of Em's "THIS IS THE MOST AMAZING, WONDERFUL MASTERPIECE EVER" albums...
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Re: Interesting theory about Encore

Postby Innovation » Sep 15th, '11, 01:04

Sam. wrote:None of those songs can be a "TES" left over .They are pure Encore material.
Love You More is a possibility but the voice is different . :-k


We As Americans and Love You More were actually released on the Straight From The Lab EP in 2003. For We As Americans in partiular, you can tell it's not an Encore era song based on the writing alone. It's miles ahead of the vast majority of Encore it's ridiculous. I'd probably put it in my top 30 Em tracks. I'm guessing it's a 2002 written verse and recorded in 2002/2003.
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Re: Interesting theory about Encore

Postby illegalweapons » Sep 15th, '11, 01:57

Amaranthine wrote:
illegalweapons wrote:Encore is an ok album....fuck haters

Yeah, it's an "ok" album among the rest of Em's "THIS IS THE MOST AMAZING, WONDERFUL MASTERPIECE EVER" albums...

It's always hate along with relapse and recovery :'( Relapse ha one of the best flows ever and recovery was magnificent.... Not afraid = best comeback song... Not afraid is oNE of my favorite dogs and I love the video.... Encore is always left out when it had two of eminem's best songs on there.... I just tried o people hatin on encore :( Its better than soulaj boy right????? :sweating: :unsure:
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