My Theory on MMLP2

[Fa-Q]

Both Berserk and Rap God were both littered with rap references being mostly old school and late 90's rap references. If you look at the RapGenius of Rap God, there are ones I didn't even notice because they are artists I don't really listen to like Big Pun.

With that being said, I believe this will be a tribute to Hip Hop and the artists that made Eminem the artist he is today. Maybe I'm wrong and we'll see in a couple days. Just a subject to discuss to pass the time until the album is here.

[Mr Change]

Yeah. Another one is the 'everyone loves to root for a nusiance' line from Rap God, which is apparently a big reference to a Roots' song or something idk but I didn't catch it and I feel the whole album will be like this. Sort of like a pledge to hip-hop

[Trilla]

Sorta like how MMLP is a tribute to those who criticized him and made him the rapper he was then!

[XxachiganxX]

A tribute to old hiphop FT. skylar grey, nate ruess, rihanna & sia

Would be cool though, I think there will be a lot oldschool references, and hopefully references to lines of the original MMLP too

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[Kill You]

I think he'll have a bunch of references.

[VINTAGƎ]

I hope not. I mean I can certainly see it going that way but, I hope that's limited.

It feels forced at times. Like he feels he needs to compensate in some way so he's like "I'm not pop. Look at the not so well known hip hop artists I used to listen to growing up!"

I'm not sure he has a feel for who his target audience is, or maybe he's trying to educate his younger fans on hip hop history.

The supersonic/jj fad reference completely went over my head, as did a few other references that are early 80s before I was born.

I think it's nice here and there to big up the pioneers before you, but he's 15 years in the game now, at least commercially, and even more if you count underground. He has his own legacy. His own mark on the game. Rap about that, not about rappers you listened to growing up who you've now surpassed in terms of respect and popularity.

I feel like he's trying to get haters to sway their opinion of him as opposed to not giving a fuck and writing lyrics that please him and his fans. Eminem is a true hip hop head in every sense of the word. Fans know it, people with an objective opinion know it. The only people who don't agree are haters, and he shouldn't care about them anyway because he'll never please them.

[Kmahrle83]

I hope not. I mean I can certainly see it going that way but, I hope that's limited.

It feels forced at times. Like he feels he needs to compensate in some way so he's like "I'm not pop. Look at the not so well known hip hop artists I used to listen to growing up!"

I'm not sure he has a feel for who his target audience is, or maybe he's trying to educate his younger fans on hip hop history.

The supersonic/jj fad reference completely went over my head, as did a few other references that are early 80s before I was born.

I think it's nice here and there to big up the pioneers before you, but he's 15 years in the game now, at least commercially, and even more if you count underground. He has his own legacy. His own mark on the game. Rap about that, not about rappers you listened to growing up who you've now surpassed in terms of respect and popularity.

I feel like he's trying to get haters to sway their opinion of him as opposed to not giving a fuck and writing lyrics that please him and his fans. Eminem is a true hip hop head in every sense of the word. Fans know it, people with an objective opinion know it. The only people who don't agree are haters, and he shouldn't care about them anyway because he'll never please them.

Honestly? I think now more than ever he's doing this for himself over his fans which is why we got a song like rap god in the first place. Back in the day he would always say what he wrote wasn't to please his fans, but himself

[VINTAGƎ]

I hope not. I mean I can certainly see it going that way but, I hope that's limited.

It feels forced at times. Like he feels he needs to compensate in some way so he's like "I'm not pop. Look at the not so well known hip hop artists I used to listen to growing up!"

I'm not sure he has a feel for who his target audience is, or maybe he's trying to educate his younger fans on hip hop history.

The supersonic/jj fad reference completely went over my head, as did a few other references that are early 80s before I was born.

I think it's nice here and there to big up the pioneers before you, but he's 15 years in the game now, at least commercially, and even more if you count underground. He has his own legacy. His own mark on the game. Rap about that, not about rappers you listened to growing up who you've now surpassed in terms of respect and popularity.

I feel like he's trying to get haters to sway their opinion of him as opposed to not giving a fuck and writing lyrics that please him and his fans. Eminem is a true hip hop head in every sense of the word. Fans know it, people with an objective opinion know it. The only people who don't agree are haters, and he shouldn't care about them anyway because he'll never please them.

Honestly? I think now more than ever he's doing this for himself over his fans which is why we got a song like rap god in the first place. Back in the day he would always say what he wrote wasn't to please his fans, but himself

I mean, maybe he is, but the criticism of Em for a while has been that he's not true hip hop. Because of songs like Without Me, Just Lose It, etc. That he's pop. That he's making a mockery of the culture. I'm sure his skin color plays a role in that as well. So when I hear him name drop these old school guys, a lot more frequently now than ever before, it feels to me, like he's saying "I'm hip hop to the bone. These are the guys I grew up on. The ones who influenced my style."

As if the haters are gonna say "Wow, he said Lakim Shabazz. That's real shit. Maybe I was wrong about him. Maybe he is hip hop."

Even if that's not what he's doing, these references for most of his listeners are not immediately picked up.

Back in the day, I got pretty much every reference he made. They were mostly current events related anyway, so it was easy to follow along. But now it feels like I have to use Rap Genius for all these new songs, not just to read the lyrics, but to get the reference. It loses it's edge in my opinion when you have to look up the meaning of his rhymes.

[ladelsofgravy]

not sure if i'm a fan of this direction, if that's the case. the fact that he namedrops all these old school artists but has not offered to work with any of them says enough.

it seems like a pepsi vs coke thing. coke goes for tradition, establishing how long it's been prevalent. pepsi, tries to establish how modern it is and how it's competitor is outdated. em, of course, is going to the coca cola route for now.

[Trilla]

not sure if i'm a fan of this direction, if that's the case. the fact that he namedrops all these old school artists but has not offered to work with any of them says enough.

it seems like a pepsi vs coke thing. coke goes for tradition, establishing how long it's been prevalent. pepsi, tries to establish how modern it is and how it's competitor is outdated. em, of course, is going to the coca cola route for now.

Eminem is Coca Cola and every other rapper out there is Pespi.

Eminem is outdated.

Em in 2013? Pshhh.

[ladelsofgravy]

not sure if i'm a fan of this direction, if that's the case. the fact that he namedrops all these old school artists but has not offered to work with any of them says enough.

it seems like a pepsi vs coke thing. coke goes for tradition, establishing how long it's been prevalent. pepsi, tries to establish how modern it is and how it's competitor is outdated. em, of course, is going to the coca cola route for now.

Eminem is Coca Cola and every other rapper out there is Pespi.

Eminem is outdated.

Em in 2013? Pshhh.

no, im not saying em is outdated. but what i'm saying is that em is probably going to tout him being a dominant rapper for a long-time.

it's the same thing in politics. when you're young in politics, you tout yourself as an "outsider". when you're older politician, you tout your "Experience".

[grayfox318]

not sure if i'm a fan of this direction, if that's the case. the fact that he namedrops all these old school artists but has not offered to work with any of them says enough.

it seems like a pepsi vs coke thing. coke goes for tradition, establishing how long it's been prevalent. pepsi, tries to establish how modern it is and how it's competitor is outdated. em, of course, is going to the coca cola route for now.

Eminem is Coca Cola and every other rapper out there is Pespi.

Eminem is outdated.

Em in 2013? Pshhh.

[EminemBase]

Yep well... the first MMLP was actually like a love letter to hip-hop too.

There's loads of references (Biggie and Pac just missed all this) and homages/reworkings ("The Way I Am" chorus @ Rakim's hook) - so I'm glad he's doing that, it's another way of making it feel like a real sequel/connected album without lamely trying to replicate it or continue it.

[AshRoarshock]

eh, tbh I hope the album isn't anything like Rap God, Berzerk or Survival. I hope those are his get-you-pumped songs to lure in other rappers and hip hop heads to talk about him and build his hype. I like the songs but I don't love the songs.

I'm hoping the rest of the album is like MMLP1 and the songs are Slim Shady crazy and emotional. If I don't hear another movie-like song like Stan/Kim I'm going to be disappointed. I don't even know what to call that type of song. It's more like reenacting a story rather than listening to a rapper talk about a story. The only other rapper I heard pull it off was Big Gemini - Sometimes I Feel

[ladelsofgravy]

eh, tbh I hope the album isn't anything like Rap God, Berzerk or Survival. I hope those are his get-you-pumped songs to lure in other rappers and hip hop heads to talk about him and build his hype. I like the songs but I don't love the songs.

that's a tall order. i tend to believe in three strikes you're out.