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Postby AspirinE » Sep 23rd, '06, 23:06

Groupie.

learn to separate "opinion" from "hating".


I made that fack hating thread, and say my name next time instead of saying "some people"

and i made the "dont buy curtain call" thing. I did it for a laught buncha little kids get pains in the ass from fucking insignificant shit.

Eminem is a great artist. Fack is tha wackest song i ever hear, smack that is the most rediculously useless and non creative song i ever hear, and encore is the only eminem album i regret buying.

Stick to ur own opinion, dont outlaw other opinions. I been a D12 fan for more than uve probly even listened to hip hop, u wanna hate on my opinion? Fine go ahead, but it wont make a bad track better or wont releif an artist from critisism.
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Postby AspirinE » Sep 23rd, '06, 23:19

I find it fucking pathetic that a discussion board about an artist, clearly detests the concept of criticism. Eminem is an artist getting paid millions to do something that he knows how to do well... and getting paid pretty damn well, well enough to feed a small country in Africa..

Being able to criticize, is the whole idea about apreciating GOOD work.
Im radical in opinion, but u will NEVER see me criticizing a TES or SSLP.. i love good work, i point out the disadvantages in bad work, and since eminem isnt fucking immortal and immune to mistakes, theres always something to critisise.


thanx very much for this meaningfull thread.

yall can have a group hug, and then make a prair to eminems naked picture.
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Postby AspirinE » Sep 23rd, '06, 23:36

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i think i get you now man.

damn i feel stupid for making this topic :(


nah its ok man, some times i say stupid shit too.

But ive been on this board since the begining and ive shown support from eminem, then wen i say something against i see how people jump to conclusion, eminem fans especially the young ones that just started listning to music very often act up to "fan" standart.

I mean if you dont agree, prove the opposite, most people just respond by saying... "ohh hater this ...hater that" that will only inspire people to rivalry.
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Postby AspirinE » Sep 23rd, '06, 23:51

Clarky wrote:What do you think the last good track Eminem made was?^ jw

And I think that when people hate on Smack That, saying it is crap is kinda wrong. Because it's good at what it wants to do. It's a club song, a party song. And I think it's a good one. People can't expect lyrical stuff all of the time, tbh it would of made the track worse for a lot of people.

And remember that this song is Akons. Eminem has done him a favour. Akon will of chose a club song, not Eminem.


last good track from em - "when im gone"

Smack that is not a song. A song is art .. its creativity - smack that is the least creative song ive ever hear eminem feature on. And this song is wack coz of Akon.

mack that, all on the floor,
smack that, give me some more,
smack that, 'till you get sore
smack that, oooh.
smack that, all on the floor,
smack that, give me some more,
smack that, 'till you get sore,
smack that, oooh.



Im sorry but thats the most rediculously uncreative hook i ever heard, its just... stupid....

I have nothing against party songs, im partly a daddy kane fan and Kane has made timeless party songs. Theres QUALITY in party tracks too. Ill pay eminem 30 dollars, for a good track i bump in my car and one that will set my mood at a bar or club.

When music is so bluntly selling out i have nothing else but that to say.
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Postby AspirinE » Sep 24th, '06, 00:04

Clarky wrote:Yeah but tbh honest not a lot of people would choose BDK at a party. This song will be popular with a lot of people and will get played in clubs/bars.

To sell, which is Akon's main priority, he's gonna make a club song with Eminem in which will be loved by teenage girls everywhere. Why not lol. He'll get fuck loads of money lol.


they play anything at the club, coz the same eminemlover12374's shadyfan4lifes's etc are in those clubs, they like it JUST COZ, cause its eminem and coz that song is popular on the charts, wich if u think logically are controlled by the industry. To be really real these days, i really gave a fuck wats playing in the "clubs" 3-4 shots of vodka and ill get crunk to black eyed peas. but as i said, just coz its a club track and it dont matter how good it is.. it doesnt mean they can just set bad examples for music and the industry.
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Sep 24th, '06, 00:55

like i enter thread read the first post get ready for a big eminem post bout all this shit then i keep reading and asp made every single point i though of to make a point about dam you asp :angry: :sweating:
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Postby Curious » Sep 24th, '06, 01:10

ASP wrote:and i made the "dont buy curtain call" thing. I did it for a laught buncha little kids get pains in the ass from fucking insignificant shit.

Eminem is a great artist. Fack is tha wackest song i ever hear, smack that is the most rediculously useless and non creative song i ever hear, and encore is the only eminem album i regret buying.

Stick to ur own opinion, dont outlaw other opinions. I been a D12 fan for more than uve probly even listened to hip hop, u wanna hate on my opinion? Fine go ahead, but it wont make a bad track better or wont releif an artist from critisism.


i totally agree with asp n killa here - criticising n hating is not the same thing n honestly Encore was not a great album, some of the lyrics were really lame, n considering the talent Em really does have i think it's fair to be disappointed in the album

As for Curtain Call i've no idea why it's worth buying because of 2 new tracks if u've got the rest of his albums??? i'm generally not in favour of Greatest Hits albums, usually they don't have the best tracks anyway... fack is definitely the most ridiculous song Em's ever made, but i wouldn't discourage ppl from buying CC just because of that n i don't really remember anyone saying so... :unsure:

As for Smack That, word Asp! ;) I don't really give a d*** about the video or Em's clothes, the song's trivial n immaterial.
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Postby theunit_8 » Sep 25th, '06, 08:07

Clarky wrote: I wanna hear the Eminem on Infinite again.


ewwwww....that shit was weak bro he says himself on shit can happen. 'ever since i spit some shit on infinite i've been givin it 110%'

but thats your opinion but there are about maybe 2 or 3 good songs from infinite in my opinion
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Postby AspirinE » Sep 25th, '06, 11:33

theunit_8 wrote:
Clarky wrote: I wanna hear the Eminem on Infinite again.


ewwwww....that shit was weak bro he says himself on shit can happen. 'ever since i spit some shit on infinite i've been givin it 110%'

but thats your opinion but there are about maybe 2 or 3 good songs from infinite in my opinion


wtf?


"never 2 far" - classic
"infinite" - classic
"open mic" - classic
"Its ok" - Classic
and i can t remeber the rest of the songs right now, but the only track i skip is ... "maxine" ...

Not too good quality wise, but the album has real feelings, he literally told the future he wished for on "never 2 far" than achieved it.

Marshall mathers Lp aint got HALF the real feelings the infinite album has.

wtf is wrong with this site, people love "fack" and dont like infinite. >_>
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Postby meinem » Sep 25th, '06, 12:46

ASP wrote:Groupie.

learn to separate "opinion" from "hating".


I made that fack hating thread, and say my name next time instead of saying "some people"

and i made the "dont buy curtain call" thing. I did it for a laught buncha little kids get pains in the ass from fucking insignificant shit.

Eminem is a great artist. Fack is tha wackest song i ever hear, smack that is the most rediculously useless and non creative song i ever hear, and encore is the only eminem album i regret buying.

Stick to ur own opinion, dont outlaw other opinions. I been a D12 fan for more than uve probly even listened to hip hop, u wanna hate on my opinion? Fine go ahead, but it wont make a bad track better or wont releif an artist from critisism.



i been into hip hop now for around 24 yrs and loved eminem and d12 from the day they appeared especially eminem.

i agree peeps need to seperate opinion from hating for real but i wanna make a few points here.

it seems that a lot of folk seem to expect em to only create hard core serious tracks with every release, some of his tracks are not designed to be like that.

fack is one of them - if you listen to the words is obviously done as a joke and as a laugh.

shake that personally was a very boring song but it was a different style song to his usual stuff and should be respected as such.

when im gone was sheer utter class one of the best he has written.

encore and the eminem show got slated big time but only by a lot of his so called true fans.

they are both as good as the first albums he made they just show a more fun side to em rather than the serious side of the first 2 albums.

if you look at the track listings and then compare tracks, whats the difference between : without me and :as the world turns?

they are both class tracks in their own right if you look at them as fun tracks instead of serious hard core tracks that fact shows thru

as for encore it was a far more serious album rather than the hard core violent side and was more deep into em's life and more deep/serious and should be taken as such.

everyones entitled to their own opinion and others should respect that just as i do so this is just mine so respect and accept it :)
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Postby AspirinE » Sep 25th, '06, 13:23

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Fack is just not a funny rap song ...period. Its not a song. If eminem wants to stupid sounds on the mic he can go participate in entertaining kindergardens.

I dont expect him to release "hardcore shit" , i love "our house", i love "cum on everybody" i love "can-i-bitch" thats wen people with brains laugh.

Fack is not on the level. A lot of people in denial at this point. Dumb and dumber seemed like one of the dumbest creation of civilized society this song just makes me question the average IQ of people listning to such shit is. People wanna put this song in the same context as the other Funny songs trying to justify it just some common sense from people at times would be great. I dont want to hear eminem make another track like that, just coz hes neo-fans have gladly copped that shit that took no effort wat so ever, something that is not music.

TES > MMLP , im yet to see people critisize the eminem show, dont create conspiracies joining the TES and Encore.


I see people like u generalising all the time. Just coz people dont like fack, dont mean they "expect" something serious from him. He knows how to balance his shit, and i think any normal person would understand that a rappers high-paying job might as well be done full capacity... or he can quit, and let those starving in the underground continue what he cannot maintain.
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Postby DOPE » Sep 25th, '06, 14:29

i was reading this



everythin has bin said about Eminem's new songs and everything


but about Infinite

the only thing bad is the beats on it

it really needs to b remixed by any producer out there and put on a mixtape or somethin

only if acapellas is avaible from it, Mart will b happy as hell to do so
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Postby AspirinE » Sep 25th, '06, 17:16

Clarky wrote:
theunit_8 wrote:
Clarky wrote: I wanna hear the Eminem on Infinite again.


ewwwww....that shit was weak bro he says himself on shit can happen. 'ever since i spit some shit on infinite i've been givin it 110%'

but thats your opinion but there are about maybe 2 or 3 good songs from infinite in my opinion


Obviousley you don't listen to lyrics.


plus that lyric means, that ever since infinite, he was doing his best, in no sense does it mean that it wasnt good. It wasnt the new style eminem had, but it was good.
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Postby theunit_8 » Sep 26th, '06, 06:38

Clarky wrote:
theunit_8 wrote:
Clarky wrote: I wanna hear the Eminem on Infinite again.


ewwwww....that shit was weak bro he says himself on shit can happen. 'ever since i spit some shit on infinite i've been givin it 110%'

but thats your opinion but there are about maybe 2 or 3 good songs from infinite in my opinion


Obviousley you don't listen to lyrics.


yo i listen to lyrics and lyrically he was the best on the em show his flow everything was fuckin unreal for that album...when you say i want em on infinite again, why? it seems like everyone on here likes him the best on TES so why not want that? and just bc i said i dont like him on infinite doesnt make it fact. wasnt asp and everyone sayin the shit they say is opinions so with that said what i said was an opinion.
with all the fack talk i never once said i liked fack...its no good, very weak actually.
in my opinion i think the best album he made was TES then i think MMLP and SSLP are about equal the only reason i say that is bc i cant really put one above the other they're both crazy lyrically.
with all his club songs i think theyre good bc the way he spits and flows no one can do that. yes i would rather have em in a serious better song but still its decent i think.
with all that shit said i would like to have eminem do another album in the style that he had around TES and 8 mile time all those songs are ridiculous
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Postby G-Bustah » Sep 26th, '06, 17:42

ASP wrote:
Blackheart wrote:
i think i get you now man.

damn i feel stupid for making this topic :(


nah its ok man, some times i say stupid shit too.

But ive been on this board since the begining and ive shown support from eminem, then wen i say something against i see how people jump to conclusion, eminem fans especially the young ones that just started listning to music very often act up to "fan" standart.
I mean if you dont agree, prove the opposite, most people just respond by saying... "ohh hater this ...hater that" that will only inspire people to rivalry.


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WTF? :confusion:
I'm 13 yeah.
Yea Em I think is a damn good rapper (otherwise I woulden't be here)
And yea there are a lot of "fans", also at my darn sgool they only go saying its a funny song (fack) etc.
But I usually listen to the lyrics, he has good talent, but I never heard about " Infinite", and actuallly I don't give a shit! Yeah maybe I sound kinda idiotic, and I listen to rap since I was 10, I'm from Belgium, so back then I diddn't even understand what rappers said. I got a lot o' Eminem records, but I also listen to G-Unit, Kanye West, D12, JMT, Snoop Dogg, etc.
I don't even need to have those "old" records. I look up to the future, yeah some of his songs suck, others don't.
Rofl, I love rap, why else I started practising rap myself? I ain't no wanna-B who wants to look like Eminem, I don't even like those to-big-pants, juz gimme a pair of cool jeans and a hoody and I'm satisfied.

I know what pain and shit is,
So don't think I fit with those young idiots.
(And yes I know you probably didn't mean me :flower: I just had to tell :happy: )

And 'bout Em,
He's my favourite rapper yes, but he needs to make some more (and GOOD) songs. Cuzz everytime he makes a new record it has maybe 4,5 new songs...
He's good, but like ya said, hed better spend his money to help Africa instead of paying hoes (don't know if he does that, but nvm :p )
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