Am i the only one who ...

[AspirinE]

I thought he'd stop, after eminem show...

coz i had no problem with him doing that on that album, since its a concept album about his life and how he just got to that spot.


But enough is always enough, although id rather hear songs about kim than dumb shit like "smack that" with worthless/talentless singers that "specialise" in hooks.

[,-,'-{Bar}-',-,]

rapping is a way of expressing you views you hardships...never seen anyone complain when tupac did it and he hardly did anything else, emcee type and tracks like that are great but so are personel tracks there basically what started it if you think lots of blues songs were about there struggles in there life and perosnel stuff sometimes

[4D]

I agree with everything Asp said.

Also, to take away the personal stories in his rhymes, or to take away the funny carefree side of him, is to make him one dimensional. That's why I think Eminem is special when it comes to Emcees, he has it all. Emcee/lyricist skills, funny/humour/entertainment, heartfelt/emotional stories and dark conceptual fictional raps.

The songs he's doing now, like Shake that Ass and Smack That, are just proof that Eminem is trying to be successful in yet another facet of hip-hop that he hasn`t touched on yet, club songs.

I think if you're measuring greatness, versatility goes a hell of a long way.

Eminem's not doing the club songs for the sales or money, I think he already sells enough without doing that shit, it's just him trying to dominate rap from every angle.

But, don`t get me wrong, I`ll take a "Till I Collapse" or "Kim" before I'd take a "Fack" or "Smack That". But, I'd still want the those last 2 tracks too!

[tamara]

I agree with everything Asp said.

Also, to take away the personal stories in his rhymes, or to take away the funny carefree side of him, is to make him one dimensional. That's why I think Eminem is special when it comes to Emcees, he has it all. Emcee/lyricist skills, funny/humour/entertainment, heartfelt/emotional stories and dark conceptual fictional raps.

The songs he's doing now, like Shake that Ass and Smack That, are just proof that Eminem is trying to be successful in yet another facet of hip-hop that he hasn`t touched on yet, club songs.

I think if you're measuring greatness, versatility goes a hell of a long way.

Eminem's not doing the club songs for the sales or money, I think he already sells enough without doing that shit, it's just him trying to dominate rap from every angle.

But, don`t get me wrong, I`ll take a "Till I Collapse" or "Kim" before I'd take a "Fack" or "Smack That". But, I'd still want the those last 2 tracks too!

I completly agree with you, nothing else to add

[-[Zach]-]

it's kind of cool when he raps about sumthin' in his life that u can relate 2. so its all right with me if he raps about his life.

[jenocide187]

I agree with everything Asp said.

Also, to take away the personal stories in his rhymes, or to take away the funny carefree side of him, is to make him one dimensional. That's why I think Eminem is special when it comes to Emcees, he has it all. Emcee/lyricist skills, funny/humour/entertainment, heartfelt/emotional stories and dark conceptual fictional raps.

The songs he's doing now, like Shake that Ass and Smack That, are just proof that Eminem is trying to be successful in yet another facet of hip-hop that he hasn`t touched on yet, club songs.

I think if you're measuring greatness, versatility goes a hell of a long way.

Eminem's not doing the club songs for the sales or money, I think he already sells enough without doing that shit, it's just him trying to dominate rap from every angle.

But, don`t get me wrong, I`ll take a "Till I Collapse" or "Kim" before I'd take a "Fack" or "Smack That". But, I'd still want the those last 2 tracks too!

completely agree. u hit my thoughts right on the head....ow

[DediCation]

I think its his style of rapping that made him so famous, and those family issues are what made him huge at the same time. I think hes toned it down quite a bit as of late with encore etc.


It's his unique style that makes him stand out more so then everyone else, and he left little room for anyone else to compare to that, as he pretty much covered a lot of problems with a lot of his songs, which allowed people to relate. However, there is only so much that you need to be able to listen to to relate.

I think his music about fighting is the best. (Till I collapse, soldier, white america, fight music)


thats just my opinion, but without those family songs, it just wouldn't be his style, and I do enjoy listening to them

[lc-rounce]

everybody raps about what they live in

[Curious]

I agree with everything Asp said.

Also, to take away the personal stories in his rhymes, or to take away the funny carefree side of him, is to make him one dimensional. That's why I think Eminem is special when it comes to Emcees, he has it all. Emcee/lyricist skills, funny/humour/entertainment, heartfelt/emotional stories and dark conceptual fictional raps.

The songs he's doing now, like Shake that Ass and Smack That, are just proof that Eminem is trying to be successful in yet another facet of hip-hop that he hasn`t touched on yet, club songs.

I think if you're measuring greatness, versatility goes a hell of a long way.

Eminem's not doing the club songs for the sales or money, I think he already sells enough without doing that shit, it's just him trying to dominate rap from every angle.

But, don`t get me wrong, I`ll take a "Till I Collapse" or "Kim" before I'd take a "Fack" or "Smack That". But, I'd still want the those last 2 tracks too!

I basically agree with Asp and Fordie but (oh yes, there's a but) I do think that certain topics (Kim and Mariah, e.g.) have been worn out - I almost puked when I heard another Mariah reference on Jimmy Crack Corn, and the never ending Kim-Marshall saga is getting ridiculous, but as for other stuff, like what he's been going through with Proof's death, I definitely want to hear him rap about that

oh, and another but - I don't want another Fack or Smack That, it's some of the lamest songs ever produced

[meinem]

I agree with everything Asp said.

Also, to take away the personal stories in his rhymes, or to take away the funny carefree side of him, is to make him one dimensional. That's why I think Eminem is special when it comes to Emcees, he has it all. Emcee/lyricist skills, funny/humour/entertainment, heartfelt/emotional stories and dark conceptual fictional raps.

The songs he's doing now, like Shake that Ass and Smack That, are just proof that Eminem is trying to be successful in yet another facet of hip-hop that he hasn`t touched on yet, club songs.

I think if you're measuring greatness, versatility goes a hell of a long way.

Eminem's not doing the club songs for the sales or money, I think he already sells enough without doing that shit, it's just him trying to dominate rap from every angle.

But, don`t get me wrong, I`ll take a "Till I Collapse" or "Kim" before I'd take a "Fack" or "Smack That". But, I'd still want the those last 2 tracks too!

FIRSTLY SMACK THAT IS NOT AN EMINEM SONG IS AN AKON SONG

and i agree akon has no talent but you shouldnt be slating eminem for his part in featuring in someone elses songs.

also other songs that he has done that you all say are not good ie fack you all take everyone of eminems songs to serious that song along with quite a few other are designed to be stupid songs and more fun than serious so why do you all keep dogging them just because they aint serious songs?

eminem is just showing that he aint always about being serious and that he fucks around to and that he does have a stupid fun more chilled out side to him to


if you were all true fans you would see this and would stop picking holes in everything eminem does i mean ffs give him a break i'd like to see any of you do what he is able to do bout time you all showed him a little respect as you say your fans of his

[meinem]

I agree with everything Asp said.

Also, to take away the personal stories in his rhymes, or to take away the funny carefree side of him, is to make him one dimensional. That's why I think Eminem is special when it comes to Emcees, he has it all. Emcee/lyricist skills, funny/humour/entertainment, heartfelt/emotional stories and dark conceptual fictional raps.

The songs he's doing now, like Shake that Ass and Smack That, are just proof that Eminem is trying to be successful in yet another facet of hip-hop that he hasn`t touched on yet, club songs.

I think if you're measuring greatness, versatility goes a hell of a long way.

Eminem's not doing the club songs for the sales or money, I think he already sells enough without doing that shit, it's just him trying to dominate rap from every angle.

But, don`t get me wrong, I`ll take a "Till I Collapse" or "Kim" before I'd take a "Fack" or "Smack That". But, I'd still want the those last 2 tracks too!

FIRSTLY SMACK THAT IS NOT AN EMINEM SONG IS AN AKON SONG

and i agree akon has no talent but you shouldnt be slating eminem for his part in featuring in someone elses songs.

also other songs that he has done that you all say are not good ie fack you all take everyone of eminems songs to serious that song along with quite a few other are designed to be stupid songs and more fun than serious so why do you all keep dogging them just because they aint serious songs?

eminem is just showing that he aint always about being serious and that he fucks around to and that he does have a stupid fun more chilled out side to him to


if you were all true fans you would see this and would stop picking holes in everything eminem does i mean ffs give him a break i'd like to see any of you do what he is able to do bout time you all showed him a little respect as you say your fans of his

It isn't about being a true fan it's about having the ability to critisise.

A few months ago, i didn't understand that shit and i was thinking everybody was hating on eminem when they critisised him. But then Gkilla and ASP showed me that it wasn't hatin but rather critisising, i have to admit that after that i've been seeing music from a different view a more ''Open'' view.

So my answer to you is learn to be open-minded and don't think it's about how big of a fan you are. It's about having the capability to view someone's work from different angles.

Being able to critisise and to compare isn't hating.

Thanks to ASP and Killa I understand that now.

i do already but the point im trying to make is all i ever hear these days is two faced comments and people that call themselves fans that one minute say how much they love his music then in the next breath they slate it, lets take the re up track no appologys and jimmy crackcorn everyone was saying how wicked these tracks were then after a week of them being out they started slating them big time just cuz they contained a few lines from some old freestyle, now tell me that is just an opinion to me thats being 2 faced and not really seeing the music for what its really worth:) and if you read around this site your see this is a good point

[Curious]

if you were all true fans you would see this and would stop picking holes in everything eminem does i mean ffs give him a break i'd like to see any of you do what he is able to do bout time you all showed him a little respect as you say your fans of his

It isn't about being a true fan it's about having the ability to critisise.

i do already but the point im trying to make is all i ever hear these days is two faced comments and people that call themselves fans that one minute say how much they love his music then in the next breath they slate it, lets take the re up track no appologys and jimmy crackcorn everyone was saying how wicked these tracks were then after a week of them being out they started slating them big time just cuz they contained a few lines from some old freestyle, now tell me that is just an opinion to me thats being 2 faced and not really seeing the music for what its really worth:) and if you read around this site your see this is a good point

it's blatantly obvious from ur posts that u don't understand the difference between criticising n hating - being a fan doesn't mean u have to love everything Eminem does, all his songs aren't great n it's ok to discuss that, that has nothing to do with being two-faced, it has something to do with the ability to survey the quality of a given lyric or beat or production and discuss it openly and critically

there are certain songs of Em's that i don't like for various reasons, some that i don't think live up to his standards, but that doesn't mean i don't think he's one of the greatest rappers to ever walk this planet - if being a true fan according to your standards is to worship the ground he walks on and love every song he ever makes regardless of the quality then i'm not a true fan, and i don't even wanna be

[Lil Pimp Tell 'Em]

I didnt read all the posts so my bad if it was said
Em always be rappin bout his daughter and even put her in one of ja rules disses and then one of the rappers he was in beef with mentioned hailey and he went crazy, if u dont want no one to mention ur daughter dont mention her in every song.. geez

[AspirinE]

ugh, the fack thing again.


People aught to stop putting themselves above others as fans just coz others dont put up with some stuff being garbage.

Curious said it all.

[meinem]

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it's blatantly obvious from ur posts that u don't understand the difference between criticising n hating - being a fan doesn't mean u have to love everything Eminem does, all his songs aren't great n it's ok to discuss that, that has nothing to do with being two-faced, it has something to do with the ability to survey the quality of a given lyric or beat or production and discuss it openly and critically

there are certain songs of Em's that i don't like for various reasons, some that i don't think live up to his standards, but that doesn't mean i don't think he's one of the greatest rappers to ever walk this planet - if being a true fan according to your standards is to worship the ground he walks on and love every song he ever makes regardless of the quality then i'm not a true fan, and i don't even wanna be[/quote]

i think you have misunderstood what im trying to say,i wasnt saying that being a true fan you had to love every single one of his tracks i was trying to make a point of how one minute peeps are saying how great a track is then in the next bre4ath they are slagging it.

there are some tracks he has done that i dont think are as good as others but i dont slag them off or critisize them because of that as i dont think anyone in this forum could match his skills and success so therefore in my opinion shouldnt critisize,having an opinion and critisizing to me are completely different.

not liking every track or worshipping him isnt what being a true fan is all about its about not just his music but about him as an artist and a person.

i just think that a lot of peeps seem a little 2 faced by the way they say one thing then change to the opposite point of view thats all.i was never trying to say you was not a true fan so sorry if thats how it came accross