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Renegade VS till I Collapse

Postby Slim Zaddy » Dec 6th, '08, 11:05

Ok guys i guess you all know these songs, there have been a lot of controversy over them. Some people just prefer (till I collapse) others preferred (renegade).. i know they are both dopes songs though. so let's settle this out , know really which one you found better in terms of :

1. Beat
2. Rhymes
3. Lyrics
4. Flow
Etc... And why


For me i will pick till I collapse cuz the beat is amazing and motivating because it match perfect with the rhymes and the way Eminem is flowing through it .. And whenever i feel like lazy or somethin nd need to work on somethin i just put on till I collapse.. I’m not sayin that renegade is sucks,, no it's also dope in terms of everything so that was my opinion what is yours ???????????

do u think relapse will have one of these kind of songs ??
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Re: Renegade VS till i'm Collapse

Postby Ev1L GeniuS » Dec 6th, '08, 13:33

They both really amazing But um in renegade jay was with him so not all eminem song but he had 2 of his best verses of all time ,
I`d choose Till I collapse ( its I not I`m ) Because just like you said the way he flow and the beat is really good and for me i like it when em flow with his angry voice ( 3rd verse ) and yea his lyrics were also amazing specially 3rd verse also one of his best ,
Yes i think he will have a song that we can put next to these two , maybe a song on his own or a feat with jayz .
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Re: Renegade VS till I Collapse

Postby Slim Zaddy » Dec 6th, '08, 17:15

fido2 wrote:
z_em wrote:do u think relapse will have one of these kind of songs ??

Wut kind?



till i collapse and renegade man ,, they are the best lyrically ... :8)
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Re: Renegade VS till I Collapse

Postby lakaisx » Dec 6th, '08, 18:30

Renegade was lyrically on a higher level, but tll i collapse sounded like it came from the heart and it was pretty lyrical itself
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Re: Renegade VS till I Collapse

Postby SayGoodbyeHollywood » Dec 6th, '08, 18:55

this topic comes up like once every 2 months lol

Love TIC and the 3rd verse is crazy but ...

Chet Starr wrote:nothing eminem has done holds a candle next to......renegade



Now who's the king of these rude ludicrous lucrative lyrics....
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Re: Renegade VS till I Collapse

Postby Slim Zaddy » Dec 6th, '08, 19:18

Chet Starr wrote:damn, guess eminem wrote so well cause he wanted to take on crown of top rapper once and for all.

Job well done :smoking:

now just write some verses like that again :whistle:



i agree wit u totally chet , renegade was lyrically amazing , but you can feel Eminem more on till i collapse . i mean his voice in till i'm collapse was amazing cuz he's angry , nd when he's angry he just sound amazing ..



SayGoodbyeHollywood wrote:
this topic comes up like once every 2 months lol
Love TIC and the 3rd verse is crazy but ...

chet wrote:Chet Starr wrote:
nothing eminem has done holds a candle next to......renegade


Now who's the king of these rude ludicrous lucrative lyrics....



well i did'nt knew that , but that makes these 2 more amazing ,, and ya his 3rd verse in till i collapse is dope .. well also verse 1 is dope .. actually the whole song is dope :p
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Re: Renegade VS till I Collapse

Postby Slim Zaddy » Dec 6th, '08, 19:32

Chet Starr wrote:The lyrics help, but I don't pick renegade cause of it's lyrical verses...I picked it cause of the subject matter, the kickass beat, and the catchy ass chorus

but Till I Collapse is definitive a close 2nd, I'm sure I like it more on certain days. I haven't heard it in years, and I bet I could still spit the 3rd verse by heart.


aha okay if it's this way then, cuz ya subject, matters actually, renegade is better in terms of concept and subject nd chorus, lyrics, actually totally everything i guess, but i would rather put till i collapse on my car rather than renegade cuz it attracts chicks more dude cuz of the beat :p anyway in renegade i found Eminem 2nd verse dope more than 1st verse ,,
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Re: Renegade VS till I Collapse

Postby SayGoodbyeHollywood » Dec 6th, '08, 20:08

which EM verse got into the top 20 of all time the first or second verse? i forgot :unsure:
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Re: Renegade VS till I Collapse

Postby Tash8 » Dec 7th, '08, 02:55

when I need to get pumped up I listen to Till I Collapse

when I want to listen to some lyrical stuff, I'll listen to Renegade.
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Re: Renegade VS till I Collapse

Postby Throwback24 » Dec 7th, '08, 04:45

Eminem can't make a song lyrically as good as Renegade or Till I Collapse ever again.

BTW, Till I Collapse > Renegade
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Re: Renegade VS till I Collapse

Postby Slim Zaddy » Dec 7th, '08, 08:14

TruEmFan wrote:Beat - Till I Collapse 'cause it matches perfectly with the subject matter. It makes you feel like you can do anything until you, ya know... you collapse. :p

Rhymes - Renegade 'cause they're so complex with the multis. And one of the small little flaws in Till I Collapse is the end of the first verse, when he has to resort to "You bizzles forgot Slizzle does not give a fuck." I always hated that line. :sweating:

Lyrics - Till I Collapse 'cause they're more relevant than the stuff he says in Renegade. The content in Renegade was only appropriate at the time when he was being attacked for his lyrics and all that, while Till I Collapse, anyon can listen to that anyday and still get the full effect of it.

Flow - Renegade, but only by a little bit. Em just lived in that beat, and granted, he made it, but still. I think it was more difficult to flow on Renegade than Till I Collapse anyway, which sort of just has a simple pounding beat to it.



Oh, look at that, they're even. Lol.


wow look at you girl ,, you hve really impressed me :happy: , everything you have explained just match with my point of view toward these 2 songs .. i guess i hve nothin to add more . but to ask you which one do u prefer ??? , cuz u kinda explain both of em , without mentionning which best for you ..

and i do totally agree with you ( The content in Renegade was only appropriate at the time when he was being attacked for his lyrics and all that, while Till I Collapse, anyon can listen to that anyday and still get the full effect of it.)

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Throwback24 wrote:
Eminem can't make a song lyrically as good as Renegade or Till I Collapse ever again.

BTW, Till I Collapse > Renegade


well i dont agree wit u Throwback24 ,, if he still has potential , i guess he will do better .. i know it's hard cuz he must do a song which is better than renegade and till i collapse . But he is the one who did renegade and till i collapse, so he is the only one who can do a better songs in compare with them . but who knows
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Re: Renegade VS till I Collapse

Postby SayGoodbyeHollywood » Dec 8th, '08, 01:59

^^^^^ E40 :laughing: :laughing:
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Re: Renegade VS till I Collapse

Postby theJFKshow » Dec 8th, '08, 02:59

Till I Collapse is much better, pretty much because Jay-Z fucked up Renegade.


Eminem alone on Renegade > Till I Collapse.
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Re: Renegade VS till I Collapse

Postby gladimnotsoluble » Dec 8th, '08, 04:07

The vibe and emotion is what makes Till I Collapse great.

The verses on Renegade can only be described as beautiful. I mean you can't put words to it.

I think I relate to Renegade more so I'll pick Renegade.
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Re: Renegade VS till I Collapse

Postby neb121 » Dec 8th, '08, 05:35

there both genious but i think em won with his 1st first of renegade i heard.

but there both amazing lyrically. his rap game verse was classic too.
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